Backlinks decreasing

dswift33 · 04-27-2010, 12:12 PM

Hi all,

I've noticed over the last several days that the number of backlinks to my site has slowly been DECREASING according to Yahoo.

This is odd because I have been doing some serious backlink building (web 2.0 and profile links). My links are getting indexed by google pretty quickly with a technique I'm using but they are not showing up yet in the Yahoo backlinks list.

I'm not hugely concerned because my rankings seem to be slowly improving. I was just wondering if anyone has encountered this or if Yahoo has changed anything recently...

cashcow · 04-27-2010, 12:21 PM

Hi Dave,

I'm just wondering if that could be due to some of the profile links being deleted?

I don't do a lot of profile linking myself but I know one of the complaints is that a lot of times they get deleted once the administrators of the site realize that they are only for self serving purposes.

As long as rankings are improving then who cares!

Lee

AlexKei · 04-27-2010, 12:41 PM

This is absolutely normal. In fact, Yahoo Linkdomain function is not vert accurate.

I don't know exactly how it works but I have seen it doesn't index (or show) each and every backlink pointing to a website.

Even worst is google. When you search using "link:yourdomain.com" it doesn't show not even a 5% of the actual backlinks.

ALex.

Rich Rockets · 04-27-2010, 01:50 PM

One thing I notice time and time again when people are backlink building...

If you are dropping blog comments, even if not spam, some sites have a "recent comments" box, that (if yahoo sees it at the right time) will boost your backlinks by 1,000-10,000 links or more (depending on how many pages the blog has) almost instantly.

Those links then die off quickly as yahoo re-crawls the site.

Marko Vel · 04-27-2010, 03:37 PM

What about Google? Do you get similar results?

jpf239 · 04-27-2010, 07:10 PM

Google will penalize if the quality of your backlinks are bad, they will drop your sites ranking, they want the links to be perfectly relevant or they will do more harm than good. Don't know about Yahoo, but since Google owns it, well...

paulgl · 04-27-2010, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpf239

Google will penalize if the quality of your backlinks are bad, they will drop your sites ranking, they want the links to be perfectly relevant or they will do more harm than good. Don't know about Yahoo, but since Google owns it, well...

Yeah. Sure. That's why people flood the warriorforum with sig links.

Beware, people! Delete them now!

Just because google does not count lousy backlinks does not mean
a penalty.

Since when does google own yahoo? But I digress. That statement
points out what people should think of your whole post.

Paul

jason_simpson · 04-29-2010, 03:21 AM

Search Engines change in algorithm sometimes includes a clean-up of links giving no value to some links nor discarding it from their index.

xxxJamesxxx · 04-29-2010, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Google will penalize if the quality of your backlinks are bad, they will drop your sites ranking, they want the links to be perfectly relevant or they will do more harm than good. Don't know about Yahoo, but since Google owns it, well...

If this was true, everybody would be linkbombing the competition

webcreationuk · 04-29-2010, 03:48 AM

I also noticed for one of my blogs backlinks decreased few days ago, but this morning appeared again with some "reinforcements". I don't quite know what's the catch, Google's playing maybe.

FrankBowman · 04-29-2010, 08:17 AM

Google has no linking penalty!!!!!!

They may value a particular link at 0 and if you create a 1000 "0 value" links in a month, then the "linking value" of your site will go down, which means lowers serps and possible lower PR at the next update.

But as far as I can see, there is no linking penalty where a link would have a negative value like "-2".........negative link values don't exist IMHO, otherwise I could take down my competitors by simply building "negative links" to their sites. Google knows you can't control who links to your site, so they can't give you a "link penalty"

Frank

FrankBowman · 04-29-2010, 08:18 AM

In fact, if you outbound link to a pure spam site, then yes, they'll penalize you for that because that is under your control.

kikolani · 04-29-2010, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Rockets

One thing I notice time and time again when people are backlink building...

If you are dropping blog comments, even if not spam, some sites have a "recent comments" box, that (if yahoo sees it at the right time) will boost your backlinks by 1,000-10,000 links or more (depending on how many pages the blog has) almost instantly.

Those links then die off quickly as yahoo re-crawls the site.

I never thought of that, but it's a good point.

I also think that some that come up as lost are ones where the sites (especially social networks / profiles) change to redirect links instead of direct links.

badboy_Nick · 04-29-2010, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dswift33

Hi all,

I've noticed over the last several days that the number of backlinks to my site has slowly been DECREASING according to Yahoo.

This is odd because I have been doing some serious backlink building (web 2.0 and profile links). My links are getting indexed by google pretty quickly with a technique I'm using but they are not showing up yet in the Yahoo backlinks list.

I'm not hugely concerned because my rankings seem to be slowly improving. I was just wondering if anyone has encountered this or if Yahoo has changed anything recently...

Maybe some pages your links were on got deleted, sandboxed, banned, sites marked as dupes?

Theres lots of reasons for this, especially when Yahoo is involved ... they are always second best to Google so no wonder here.

Nick

Groovystar · 04-29-2010, 01:46 PM

I would try and make sure that your backlinks you build have a good chance to be long term. I only sig-link on forums I actually intend to contribute to and enjoy posting in and that are at least somewhat relevant to my site or keywords. Blog comments quickly get buried under more and more layers of recent blog entries. They seem more short term to me.

John34 · 04-29-2010, 02:48 PM

You mentioned about profile links, those kind of links have very high chance of getting deleted, personally i have stopped building profile links as they hardly have any SEO value.

tommy6336 · 04-29-2010, 09:26 PM

I've seen some people talking about how Yahoo likes the quantity of links and Google likes the Quality of links.

So if you try to please one you'll anger the other. I'd say just play with Google's rules so that every other search engine, that isn't yahoo, is happy.

04-27-2010, 12:12 PM	#1
dswift33 Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Backlinks decreasing Hi all, I've noticed over the last several days that the number of backlinks to my site has slowly been DECREASING according to Yahoo. This is odd because I have been doing some serious backlink building (web 2.0 and profile links). My links are getting indexed by google pretty quickly with a technique I'm using but they are not showing up yet in the Yahoo backlinks list. I'm not hugely concerned because my rankings seem to be slowly improving. I was just wondering if anyone has encountered this or if Yahoo has changed anything recently...
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cashcow Lee Dobbins War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: , , . Posts: 2,792 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 636 Thanked 836 Times in 578 Posts Social Networking	Re: Backlinks decreasing Hi Dave, I'm just wondering if that could be due to some of the profile links being deleted? I don't do a lot of profile linking myself but I know one of the complaints is that a lot of times they get deleted once the administrators of the site realize that they are only for self serving purposes. As long as rankings are improving then who cares! Lee
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AlexKei Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Barcelona, Spain Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Backlinks decreasing This is absolutely normal. In fact, Yahoo Linkdomain function is not vert accurate. I don't know exactly how it works but I have seen it doesn't index (or show) each and every backlink pointing to a website. Even worst is google. When you search using "link:yourdomain.com" it doesn't show not even a 5% of the actual backlinks. ALex.

04-27-2010, 01:50 PM	#4
Rich Rockets Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 22 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Backlinks decreasing One thing I notice time and time again when people are backlink building... If you are dropping blog comments, even if not spam, some sites have a "recent comments" box, that (if yahoo sees it at the right time) will boost your backlinks by 1,000-10,000 links or more (depending on how many pages the blog has) almost instantly. Those links then die off quickly as yahoo re-crawls the site.

04-27-2010, 03:37 PM	#5
Marko Vel PutYourSoulInWhatYouDo War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In Europe Posts: 845 Thanks: 63 Thanked 107 Times in 64 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Backlinks decreasing What about Google? Do you get similar results?
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jpf239 Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 52 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Backlinks decreasing Google will penalize if the quality of your backlinks are bad, they will drop your sites ranking, they want the links to be perfectly relevant or they will do more harm than good. Don't know about Yahoo, but since Google owns it, well...

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webcreationuk Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 95 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Backlinks decreasing I also noticed for one of my blogs backlinks decreased few days ago, but this morning appeared again with some "reinforcements". I don't quite know what's the catch, Google's playing maybe.
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FrankBowman Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 695 Thanks: 56 Thanked 82 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Backlinks decreasing Google has no linking penalty!!!!!! They may value a particular link at 0 and if you create a 1000 "0 value" links in a month, then the "linking value" of your site will go down, which means lowers serps and possible lower PR at the next update. But as far as I can see, there is no linking penalty where a link would have a negative value like "-2".........negative link values don't exist IMHO, otherwise I could take down my competitors by simply building "negative links" to their sites. Google knows you can't control who links to your site, so they can't give you a "link penalty" Frank
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FrankBowman Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 695 Thanks: 56 Thanked 82 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Backlinks decreasing In fact, if you outbound link to a pure spam site, then yes, they'll penalize you for that because that is under your control.
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04-29-2010, 01:46 PM	#15
Groovystar Advanced Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 557 Thanks: 18 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Backlinks decreasing I would try and make sure that your backlinks you build have a good chance to be long term. I only sig-link on forums I actually intend to contribute to and enjoy posting in and that are at least somewhat relevant to my site or keywords. Blog comments quickly get buried under more and more layers of recent blog entries. They seem more short term to me.
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04-29-2010, 02:48 PM	#16
John34 Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,565 Thanks: 122 Thanked 104 Times in 75 Posts	Re: Backlinks decreasing You mentioned about profile links, those kind of links have very high chance of getting deleted, personally i have stopped building profile links as they hardly have any SEO value.

04-29-2010, 09:26 PM	#17
tommy6336 Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 50 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Backlinks decreasing I've seen some people talking about how Yahoo likes the quantity of links and Google likes the Quality of links. So if you try to please one you'll anger the other. I'd say just play with Google's rules so that every other search engine, that isn't yahoo, is happy.