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Old 05-04-2010, 02:34 PM   #1
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Default ArticleRanks published articles on blogs with same server IP / hostname?

Hi,

So I started utilizing ArticleRanks recently with a few articles I'd already written and spun to quite a high standard.

They've been published many times in the days since they were submitted, but I've noticed something:

Most of the pingbacks I get from sites where my articles were published are situated on the same IPs - on servers with the same hostnames.

Evidentally, many of the sites in the system (at least in my experience) are on the same servers and thus the amount of link diversity across different IPs that I'm receiving is small to nil.

Either one user in the system has registered hundreds of domains and set up hundreds of sites on the same servers or else these are sites owned and run by the guys/company behind ArticleRanks? Most of the sites have adsense installed on them, and yes, a lookup of the Adsense publisher ID on SpyOnWeb.com Research Tool — You Can Disclose Websites With The Same Google Adsense Code, Google Analytics Code, Ip Address etc. also reveals a lot of the other sites in the network and on the same server/IP.

I love these services but if the only sites my articles are going to be published on are on the same servers, the benefit of the service to me and everyone else is going to be pretty small.

What is the *real* experience of other users of ArticleRanks, in terms of its contributing to raising your search rankings?

Sure, a lot of people rave about how cool the system is because their articles have been published so many times, but it's all meaningless if the blogs are all identical (just with a different theme), with the same (zero) PageRank on the same server. There's simply no diversity.

I'm almost tempted to pull my PR4 blog out of the system because what's the point in having it there when all I get in exchange is free credits which ultimately translate into worthless backlinks on worthless blogs?
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Not to go offsubject but that link is really useful, was looking for a tool like that for a long time!
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I was about to give them a try but am having trouble finding many reviews of the service. Hopefully someone has more input - thanks for sharing this.

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Default Re: ArticleRanks published articles on blogs with same server IP / hostname?

Same IPs is a moot point. It does not matter.
One simple case in point, squidoo. Same Ip for
thousands of lenses, about 3,000 each.
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I love these services but if the only sites my articles are going to be published on are on the same servers, the benefit of the service to me and everyone else is going to be pretty small.
It's the value of the site, not IP.
How about blogspot? Mine are on the same as 3,000+ as well.
And I have a few on the same IP.

Blogspot and squidoo are just two examples. There are many.

If this were true, I guess EZA would have to close, cuz they
sure could not afford a different IP for each article. Well,
maybe they could, but they wouldn't.

If you think there is some slap about having linkbacks from the
same IP, then warriors had better delete there sigs. If you make
more than one post, you are in trouble. And warrior forum is on
shared hosting, by the way.

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his point is more that there's diminishing returns from each additional link from a single ip address. For example one BL from 3 websites (different ip/owners) of PR6 > 3 BL from 1 PR6 website in terms of value for ranking.

If that's true about articleranks it's not really good since at least with ezine you get a backlink from a high PR domain. My articles often get PR2-3 on that ezine page when google updates it. If your getting BL from multiple websites with low PR BUT on the SAME IP than I think it's really not all that useful.

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Same IPs is a moot point. It does not matter.
One simple case in point, squidoo. Same Ip for
thousands of lenses, about 3,000 each.

It's the value of the site, not IP.
How about blogspot? Mine are on the same as 3,000+ as well.
And I have a few on the same IP.

Blogspot and squidoo are just two examples. There are many.

If this were true, I guess EZA would have to close, cuz they
sure could not afford a different IP for each article. Well,
maybe they could, but they wouldn't.

If you think there is some slap about having linkbacks from the
same IP, then warriors had better delete there sigs. If you make
more than one post, you are in trouble. And warrior forum is on
shared hosting, by the way.

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Hi,

So I started utilizing ArticleRanks recently with a few articles I'd already written and spun to quite a high standard.

They've been published many times in the days since they were submitted, but I've noticed something:

Most of the pingbacks I get from sites where my articles were published are situated on the same IPs - on servers with the same hostnames.

Evidentally, many of the sites in the system (at least in my experience) are on the same servers and thus the amount of link diversity across different IPs that I'm receiving is small to nil.

Either one user in the system has registered hundreds of domains and set up hundreds of sites on the same servers or else these are sites owned and run by the guys/company behind ArticleRanks? Most of the sites have adsense installed on them, and yes, a lookup of the Adsense publisher ID on SpyOnWeb.com Research Tool — You Can Disclose Websites With The Same Google Adsense Code, Google Analytics Code, Ip Address etc. also reveals a lot of the other sites in the network and on the same server/IP.

I love these services but if the only sites my articles are going to be published on are on the same servers, the benefit of the service to me and everyone else is going to be pretty small.

What is the *real* experience of other users of ArticleRanks, in terms of its contributing to raising your search rankings?

Sure, a lot of people rave about how cool the system is because their articles have been published so many times, but it's all meaningless if the blogs are all identical (just with a different theme), with the same (zero) PageRank on the same server. There's simply no diversity.

I'm almost tempted to pull my PR4 blog out of the system because what's the point in having it there when all I get in exchange is free credits which ultimately translate into worthless backlinks on worthless blogs?
Hi

Just to clarify ALL domains are not on the same IP.. This is totally not the case and the system is on hundreds of separate C Class IPs

Actually the blogs we personally add ourselves we make sure we buy C Class hosting for.

Obviously you may get a few on the same IP as there are tons of web masters using providers such as hostgator.

Maybe what you are seeing is scraper sites? I know out of the blogs that we personally add to the system a ton on scraper sites also take the content what we like to call the ripple effect. So although AR stats may show 150 published articles realistically its probably around 200-250 sites your article has ended up on.

The beauty with articleranks too is that sites are removed by owners daily and sites are added so although you may get around the same distribution numbers it is probably a whole new selection of sites your article is going on month after month
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