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Old 05-07-2010, 04:47 PM   #1
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hello all
i was looking for a hosting and

host gator has same ip for all the sites?


i mean, isn't it against SEO law to have the same ip for all the sites you host?



im concerned about it cause i want to sign up for host gator

its the plan that says unlimited domains for 12 dollars?


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Default Re: host gator has same ip for all the sites?

Your IP will be shared with others, yes, but hostgator has many IP addresses.

For a reseller account, I think sites you create are spread across a few different D-class (the last number) IP addresses, which isn't saying alot, but better than all on the same exact IP probably.

You really only have to worry about IP diversity of your own sites if you plan to interlink them (or use them to link to other sites of yours) and what to maximize the "oomph" that your interlinking will have. If you are just creating a money site on acne cures, it won't matter that that IP is shared by others.

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hello all
i was looking for a hosting and

host gator has same ip for all the sites?


i mean, isn't it against SEO law to have the same ip for all the sites you host?



im concerned about it cause i want to sign up for host gator

its the plan that says unlimited domains for 12 dollars?


any help appreciated

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Old 05-07-2010, 04:58 PM   #3
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That's true for the reseller accounts. For the multiple domain hosting which uses add-on domains, they'd be on the same IP.

For a few sites, it's really not a problem. If you grow larger than a few, you'll want reseller accounts anyway.

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On hostgator reseller accounts you can put any domain on a separate class c IP for $2 a month (that's $2 for each domain) if you really need to.

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That's true for the reseller accounts.
That's why I started my statement with "For a reseller account"

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Old 05-07-2010, 05:20 PM   #6
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I knew that - but many people seem to buy the cheaper multiple domains hosting without realizing the differences....until after they sign up


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I knew that - but many people seem to buy the cheaper multiple domains hosting without realizing the differences....until after they sign up
Ok I was one of those way back in the day Now i have hosting through like 4 companies, lol.

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If you get a server with them, you can have many different IPs. You order IP packs.

As Tom pointed out, if you're not interlinking it's not a big deal.

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I was encouraged to use HostGator but it seemed too good to be true - hosting unlimited domains for $7.95 per month. I always suspected that it was simply a matter of using unlimited subdomains. Now my suspicion is confirmed.

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That's true for the reseller accounts. For the multiple domain hosting which uses add-on domains, they'd be on the same IP.

For a few sites, it's really not a problem. If you grow larger than a few, you'll want reseller accounts anyway.

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No, you misinterpreted what Kay said.
When you sign up for an account on hostgator, or bluehost, or whatever, you have your main domain that you initial register with. Then, you could add on new domain as an "add on" domain in your cpanel. It doesn't cost you anything to put add an "add on" domain.

Also, you can add subdomains to any of your existing domains in your cpanel.

This is all covered inside a basic package at hostgator (or bluehost or any other host like them).


Now, keep inmind, that none of this really is "unlimited". If you start getting 1,000,000 visitors watching videos that you host on your domain, expect an email/call from hostgator asking you to upgrade your account. But, this has to do with bandwidth, rather than number of domains.

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Default Re: host gator has same ip for all the sites?

thanks for replies

isn't it better to have virtual hosting with different C class ips than the unlimited D class ips ?


oh, i dont intend to interlink my sites, i was just asking if its against SEO rules to have a unlimited domain on 1 ip?

cause i want to rank my sites.
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You really only have to worry about IP diversity of your own sites if you plan to interlink them (or use them to link to other sites of yours) and what to maximize the "oomph" that your interlinking will have. If you are just creating a money site on acne cures, it won't matter that that IP is shared by others.

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im creating a money site, i have different domains, and i will not interlink them.

im currently using virtual hosting for 10$ a month


mm i think google is getting more annoying each day so its not a good idea that about the all domains on a D class thing



so what do warriors use?

reseller accounts from host gator is that correct?

some people advice me for seohosting.com? nobody here use seohosting.com? here?


ok so a virtual hosting address is not the same as an C class address?
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Default Re: host gator has same ip for all the sites?

When I checked the "add on" domain with one of my host, I noticed that my subdomains decreased by one. So for sure that host is using subdomains for "add on domains."

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No, you misinterpreted what Kay said.
When you sign up for an account on hostgator, or bluehost, or whatever, you have your main domain that you initial register with. Then, you could add on new domain as an "add on" domain in your cpanel. It doesn't cost you anything to put add an "add on" domain.

Also, you can add subdomains to any of your existing domains in your cpanel.

This is all covered inside a basic package at hostgator (or bluehost or any other host like them).


Now, keep inmind, that none of this really is "unlimited". If you start getting 1,000,000 visitors watching videos that you host on your domain, expect an email/call from hostgator asking you to upgrade your account. But, this has to do with bandwidth, rather than number of domains.

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some people advice me for seohosting.com? nobody here use seohosting.com? here?


ok so a virtual hosting address is not the same as an C class address?
Seohosting is Hostgator. It's good if you don't need your own server and need different c-class ips.

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im doing SEO do i need c class ips to rank well and not get banned from ranking?

what does warrior use?
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When I checked the "add on" domain with one of my host, I noticed that my subdomains decreased by one. So for sure that host is using subdomains for "add on domains."
Then you need to get a real host

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Seohosting is Hostgator. It's good if you don't need your own server and need different c-class ips.
Another alternative is Go Pro with SEO Hosting, which I use. Starting at their 15IP Package, each IP is $3/IP (so $45/15IPs). I currently have a 100IP package with them.

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Another alternative is Go Pro with SEO Hosting, which I use. Starting at their 15IP Package, each IP is $3/IP (so $45/15IPs). I currently have a 100IP package with them.

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Good stuff.

BTW, to the OP, if you're going to put Adsense on your sites or use other Google stuff on them in the same account, then the different IPs would probably be a waste of time since they've most likely linked the sites together in their system.

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im buying host gator Business Plan for 14.95 a month is that ok for SEO? or do i need a reseller account?

i dont plan to interlink my sites, but i was thinking, if everyone has host gator and i have a backlink from a host gator site, isn't it against SEO rules?
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I like to have a cpanel for each of my sites so I use reseller accounts (hostgator). For me, using cpanel for a site is the easiest way to go - and I like the WHM screen that lists all sites on the account on one screen where I can access all the stats.

If price is a big point for you, you can use the addon domains instead. Many do that.

If you start with multiple site and use add-ons that's fine and you can upgrade to a reseller account later when you are ready for one.

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You don't need to worry.
If you did, you had better not do any sub domains.
I have a fantastic host that I know on a first name
basis. All of my sites are hosted on the same server,
and all are interlinked. No problem for normal people.

Remember, we also have many squidoo lenses, blogspot
blogs, etc. All interlinked. All on the same server as
each other.

If you had 100 sites, you would not want to put 100
links on any page anyway.

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It does not matter how many sites you put on a set of ip addresses. Google could care less. There are shared servers with hundreds of sites on the same set of ip's and any and all of them can get ranked without any issues at all.

One of my vps has 35 sites on it and 28 of them currently have at least one first page term with most of them having more than one. Google does not care.

The only time the ip address may be an issue is if you are wanting to help one of your sites by linking to it from other sites you own.

Lets say you have pr5 pages on three different domains you own and want to link back to a forth site that you own. By all evidence that I have seen you will get a much bigger bang if all four of those sites had different ip addresses.

If you are not doing that kind of activity then the ip addresses of your sites do not matter in any way.


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I can not see how Google penalizes sites in this case because they're on the same IP. (Therefore called "shared hosting".) Google is certainly aware that such big companies like HG or GD host many, many thousands of sites on only a few IPs.

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thanks everyone for your input
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I have several sites in the top 3 in Google that have the same ip.

It really does not seem to effect seo that much.

That being said, if you get on Googles bad side, they could use this and other information about you they have collected to block more then just one offending site.

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Having unique IP addresses doesn't seem to impact SEO unless you are linking between your own sites to increase your link rankings. However, where I've run into problems with shared IP addresses is with email. I use Westhost (and have for over 10 years). When I used their VPS reseller accounts, I occasionally had the shared IP address blacklisted for emails. This was VERY frustrating when one of my clients could NOT email it's sister company (on a different shared IP) b/c my client's IP had been blacklisted. What made it worse was it had nothing to do with us. Westhost has gone to great lengths to correct this issue, but I prefer unique IPs for each client's account to help control any issues with email blacklisting.

That said, does HostGator experience these same issues with the shared IPs and email blacklisting?
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