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Old 05-22-2010, 08:09 PM   #1
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Default Keyword Effectiveness Index (KEI) Question

KEI (Keyword Effectiveness Index) = Search Volume / Number of Search Results

Question 1. By "search volume", does it mean daily volume or monthly volume?
Question 2. What is a "good" KEI? What is a "great" KEI? What is a "bad" KEI? What is a really really bad "KEI"?
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KEI (Keyword Effectiveness Index) = Search Volume / Number of Search Results

Question 1. By "search volume", does it mean daily volume or monthly volume?
Question 2. What is a "good" KEI? What is a "great" KEI? What is a "bad" KEI? What is a really really bad "KEI"?
Oops, I realize now that I forgot to reply to your query.

Usually the monthly search volume is used to compute KEI.

Some general info can be had here:
KEI (Keyword Effectiveness Index): A Good Indicator For Useful Keywords?

KEI sounds great in theory. In practice though most of the keyowrd data we get from Google (both search volumes and results found) is highly unreliable. Even so, we are much better off with KEI than without it.

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Oops, I realize now that I forgot to reply to your query.

Usually the monthly search volume is used to compute KEI.

Some general info can be had here:
KEI (Keyword Effectiveness Index): A Good Indicator For Useful Keywords?

KEI sounds great in theory. In practice though most of the keyowrd data we get from Google (both search volumes and results found) is highly unreliable. Even so, we are much better off with KEI than without it.
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Default Re: Keyword Effectiveness Index (KEI) Question

They KEI concept is relatively outdated, Searches/Competition is only a very SMALL factor...and an extremely fuzzy one too.

The whole "competition" concept is outdated since "100.000 competing sites" CAN mean nothing - the #10 in Google can still be very weak and easily to outrank, and only 500 competing sites means nothing if you are competing against 10 very strong sites on Googles first page.

KEI is flawed since it does not take this strength into account, and if you do keyword research only based on "number of competition" you are likely to be in for big surprises, UNLESS you really examine domain age, PR and backlink strength of the competing sites.

And as for your question...the simple KEI is only the ratio Searches / Competition.

There is no "best" fixed number, you use it in comparison and then the one with the highest KEI is "best".

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KEI is still shakable nowadays. I agree with a lot of points here since sometimes volume search is not an enough indicator to see the keyword effectiveness.

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The best way to do it is by monthly numbers

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