Does MFA(Made for Adsense) sites Dying ?Do you think that publisher can get banned ?

[amits43]

Hey fireinds ,

Many of you have tons of Mfa sites , does your sites are deindexed ?

Do you think that it is still worth to invest time and money for the Mfa sites ?

Following is the list of the blogs owners whose Mfa sites deindexed or expressing their thought .

http://internetbusinessguide.info/online-earning-with-thin-mfa-sites-be-careful/

http://www.nicheadsensechallenge.com/day-26-uh-oh-ive-been-de-indexed/

http://lostballinhighweeds.com/blogger-and-adsense-cracks-in-the-foundation-of-the-web-sewer/

http://forum.makemoneyonlinewithseo.com/showthread.php?t=599

Does anything happen with your sites ?
Do you think it is till worth to make and spend time and money for MFA sites ?

Share your thoughts and experience .

EDIT - MFA means the sites which is just made to earn adsense money .The sites which are 4 -5 pages , thin and not focusing on the delivering high content .

Thanks

[Dan C. Rinnert]

MNF? Monday Night Football sites? What do you mean by MNF? Did you mean Made For AdSense (MFA) sites?

[CDarklock]

I think he was confusing Made For Adsense with Micro Niche Finder. Sometimes all the TLAs can be overwhelming.

[JMichaelZ]

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

MNF? Monday Night Football sites? What do you mean by MNF? Did you mean Made For AdSense (MFA) sites?

I think he means sites made by using micro niche keyword phrases found using Micro niche Finder. They are typically adsense sites, and if you don't protect them by using an alternate system of monetization, you might stand a good chance of losing them. Not always, of course, but who knows what is on G's mind today.

[Dan C. Rinnert]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

I think he was confusing Made For Adsense with Micro Niche Finder. Sometimes all the TLAs can be overwhelming.

YDS. IMO TIR. TTM TLAs TKT OTA.

[Kay King]

I think the first link posted says it all: thin MFA sites

No matter what you use to find niches or keywords - it's up to you to build a site that is actually worth something to someone who visits it. Can't blame it on the software - but on lazy site builders.

[bwh1]

Can't imagine what a keyword tool has to do if a site get indexed or de-indexed ??

Is MNF responsible if you make money with it (or not) too ?

G.

[amits43]

MFA sites which are ideally made to make money for the adsense ,

MFA - Made for adsense .

[Justinfm]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

I think he was confusing Made For Adsense with Micro Niche Finder. Sometimes all the TLAs can be overwhelming.

Yes, you definitely don't want to use too many TLA's

[Benhur]

I second, too many TLA's will do harm than good.

[Ernie Lonardo]

Im sure Google doesnt care if Adsense is your only monetisation method...thats the whole point of being a Adsense publisher - to make money.

Google just wants a quality website with good content, no tricks and more than 2 pages long.

Of course the employees at Google can screw up sometimes but follow the above guidlines and you should be fine.

[sparesigma]

MFA site used to be one of the great method to earn money since previously adsense easy to approve the publisher and they are not so "straight" but i will say MFA site is dying now

[HorseStall]

Its obvious that Google has been cracking down on MFA sites, you will do much better if you develop content that has actual value.

[derekwong28]

I have had hundreds of MFA sites de-indexed, received warning letters from Google, and was banned by Adsense eventually.

However I am still using MFA sites extensively and they rarely get de-indexed anymore.

MFA stands for "made for advertisment" rather than "made for Adsense". Once you remove Adsense and keep a very low profile, then it becomes very difficult for Google to detect and de-index you.

I am quite convinced that Google does not de-index MFA sites automatically to any great extent. If that were so, that millions upon millions of parked domain pages and one page proxy sites would be de-indexed.

For a site to be de-indexed, it had probably singled out by Google for manual review first. Factors that may trigger a manual review include a site that is suddenly doing very well in Adsense, ranked highly in the SERPs, or expanding very fast.

As to whether it is worth your while to dabble in MFA sites, you will need a lot of time and experience in order to avoid de-indexing. You should use Adsense at all.


Derek

[Ernie Lonardo]

Say a website that targets keywords in a niche but has say 100-500 unique articles (400 words each) is there any possible reason in this case that Goolgle would see it as a MFA site and deindex it?

I kinda get worried about this sometimes.

Being banned from Adsense is one thing, but to get deindexed would be devistating for a site so large.

[Zeus66]

The "trick" to avoiding the de-indexing and banning is writing content that will stand up on its own. In other words, if someone auditing your site from Google imagined that page of content without any Adsense ads (or any others), would the page provide anything of even marginal value to a visitor? A 'yes' gets you off the chopping block. A 'no' gets you gone.

John

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by Zeus66

A 'yes' gets you off the chopping block. A 'no' gets you gone.

Not really. If content was really important, sites like thefind.com, nextag.com and bizrate.com wouldn't be indexed. Google is more than willing to throw the baby out with the bath water as long as you don't have something covering your rear, such as outstanding conversion rates for Adwords advertisers or having Google employees as some of your investors.

[GeorgR.]

MFA is so 5 years ago. Is there really still people who make typical "MFA sites"? Nothing against adsense sites, but just have good content. MFA == low quality content (or no content, or spun content) and way too many ads compared to content. Only a fool who lived under a rock would make such sites today.

[SladeK]

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

MFA is so 5 years ago. Is there really still people who make typical "MFA sites"? Nothing against adsense sites, but just have good content. MFA == low quality content (or no content, or spun content) and way too many ads compared to content. Only a fool who lived under a rock would make such sites today.

I guess there are an awful lot of fools "still" in the business then. In conducting keyword research, I run across countless "MFA" sites for each and every decent keyword I analyze. Some of them are so bad and half assed that I wish I could contact Google and "tattle".

[amits43]

Originally Posted by SladeK

I guess there are an awful lot of fools "still" in the business then. In conducting keyword research, I run across countless "MFA" sites for each and every decent keyword I analyze. Some of them are so bad and half assed that I wish I could contact Google and "tattle".

I agree with you .The reason being i post this question beacause i am seeing tons of this kind of sites and i am also thinking to make this kind of sites but when i see that other 's websites are deindexing ,than i thought let us take advise from you guys .

[amits43]

Originally Posted by Zeus66

The "trick" to avoiding the de-indexing and banning is writing content that will stand up on its own. In other words, if someone auditing your site from Google imagined that page of content without any Adsense ads (or any others), would the page provide anything of even marginal value to a visitor? A 'yes' gets you off the chopping block. A 'no' gets you gone.

John

Do you think that even if the website is just 2 - 3 pages and giving some good content at-lest original and unique , google will not deindexed or neither ban the publisher ?

[nettech]

If you;re developing a site with the sole purpose of plastering Ads without any real thought going into your content or reader then to be honest I think you SHOUDL be deindexed. The short answer is you could possibly get de-indexed.

If you develop a quality site that targets a niche and gives what readers want and add to that some targeted AdSense ads then this is a good thing. Sites like these rarely get banned unless you really do somethign stupid.

The main thing is not to think just abotu the money but about quality and what your readers want. Use good whitehat SEo methods and the traffic and revenue will come.

AdSense is a long-term game!

Hope that helps!
Z

[Groovystar]

Google HATES made for adsense sites, because people looking for sites with useful information or content also hate them. I sure don't want to wade through a bunch of ad-plastered splogs when I go looking for products, entertainment sites, or informative sites. God I even found myself sloshing through MFA and made-for-affiliate-ads sites when I hit up searches about astronomy related topics the other day {Science buff here} normally a very spam free area. I kid you not. google is always working hard to weed these out because they seriously compromise the whole experience and usefulness of using a search engine. My own, newbie, based on my own experience recommendation is build a site with quality content, as well as you can, base it on something you love. Then just place a single adsense ad up. You might even see more clicks because people will view the site as much more useful and sincere.

[Craig McPherson]

Originally Posted by amits43

MFA sites which are ideally made to make money for the adsense ,

MFA - Made for adsense .

Ohhhh. I see.

Thanks for that

[HCLee]

I tend to agree with you. I suspect Google has a minimum adsense income threshold to flag out for manual review of all the bad 1-2 MFA websites. The magic number seems to be $200 or close.

Originally Posted by derekwong28

I have had hundreds of MFA sites de-indexed, received warning letters from Google, and was banned by Adsense eventually.

However I am still using MFA sites extensively and they rarely get de-indexed anymore.

MFA stands for "made for advertisment" rather than "made for Adsense". Once you remove Adsense and keep a very low profile, then it becomes very difficult for Google to detect and de-index you.

I am quite convinced that Google does not de-index MFA sites automatically to any great extent. If that were so, that millions upon millions of parked domain pages and one page proxy sites would be de-indexed.

For a site to be de-indexed, it had probably singled out by Google for manual review first. Factors that may trigger a manual review include a site that is suddenly doing very well in Adsense, ranked highly in the SERPs, or expanding very fast.

As to whether it is worth your while to dabble in MFA sites, you will need a lot of time and experience in order to avoid de-indexing. You should use Adsense at all.


Derek

[gulliver2010]

I don't have tons of MFA sites but after trying at it i did notice that G got better at sniffing out this sort of websites(one template+5 articles+an image+one adsense id+one server). In fact EMD sites are no longer that effective as they used to be... So for my case i didn't notice de-indexing, but rather my sites couldn't gain front ranks even with several high PR backlinks i even went through that G dance to make sure, so at this point i'm taking a break and just focusing on my old style of just slowly building authority sites... May be we need to vary our footprints(different server,etc) but i still don't see any need in that as one Adsense id on all sites is good enough to find you.. As you notice there's a flood of mini sites and G is responding to that by tightening its algo... somehow I'm sensing there'll be more difficulties with getting MFA sites ranked due to intense competition and Google's ever changing algos. And as you know if your MFA is not in the first 10 you get either pennies or nothing... so I'd rather spend the same amount of effort in building good authority websites rather than attracting G as MFA. Mini sites were goldmine back then, miss those days...

[derekwong28]

Originally Posted by HCLee

I tend to agree with you. I suspect Google has a minimum adsense income threshold to flag out for manual review of all the bad 1-2 MFA websites. The magic number seems to be $200 or close.

I think it simply reflects that your sites are generating more clicks for Google to notice. I also think that they treat you much more leniently if you make more.

[amits43]

Thank you all of you who give some precious suggestions to this thread .So , the conclusion of this discussion is better to create some authority quitty content website , something like 20-40 pages .

[Clyde]

No, big sites got hit too.

The conclusion is that it's too early to draw any.

[derekwong28]

Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions

No, big sites got hit too.

The conclusion is that it's too early to draw any.

Large sites can also be MFA as well e.g. scrappers and other auto-generated sites. I think Google is more concerned about them than small sites.

[Clyde]

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Large sites can also be MFA as well e.g. scrappers and other auto-generated sites. I think Google is more concerned about them than small sites.

Sure. It's too early to draw any conclusion, we'll see how things shake out. I think my rankings will come back. I own 100+ xfactor type sites and about 70% got sandbox'ed. Not worried at all though.

[whadsense]

MFA sites are still alive FACT.

The problem is there are so many people seeing it a s a quick way to earn money and not doing it properly. there are many ways to build the sites but not many to get it right and have a good CTR. Mine average 40 - 60% CTR and google do not bother me or any of my sites because they are build fully within their TOS.

You have to do it right, if you don't agree with the TOS then don't start because they WILL ban you