$100 per day in Adsense.. slapped

[Andr3w]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

I know I am in danger of sounding a bit like a scratched record and I am truly sorry that you have had such a large slap of your sites with Adsense on.

The important thing that most people seem to overlook or just plain don't realise is that you should NOT be making sites to make money with Adsense. I will say it again (for effect) "DON'T BUILD SITES TO MAKE MONEY FROM ADSENSE!" I know that sounds strange and perverse to many of you and might seem very contradictory to my signature here.. but it the as true a statement as anyone has made here at Warrior since time began it just takes a change in the way you think.

So, am I saying that you shouldn't try to make an income from Adsense? NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT! What I am saying is that you need to twist the way you think about the site building side of things 180 degrees.

Rather than start with looking for great keywords, low competition and all the usual stuff you need to start a new site by asking the big question.. "What can I build a site about that will be of great benefit to my visitors?"

Once you have found the answer to that question you should go hell for leather into creating the best, most informative, interesting content you can. It might in the form of videos, tutorials, software, forum, blog posts, audio files, news, images, diagrams, flowcharts.. Whatever medium conveys the information your niche craves..

Once you understand that and start building sites like that, not only will you be creating great authority sites loved by both Google and the people you will be able to monetise quite safely with Adsense or whatever other method you want and be safe in the knowledge that your sites wont disappear into the Google Abyss.

You might be thinking.. "this is too hard to do".. Trust me, it is no harder than the usual way of firing up a keyword tool and looking for lucrative keywords. It just takes you to change the way you think and do things.

I think this is an ugly truth that many people (including myself) probably don't want to admit to.

It's easy to fire up a keyword tool, do some searching and then extract some keywords that match a predefined criteria. Then you send those keywords to a writer, get the articles and then slap them onto your template. Job done, without really having do any thinking or use any imagination.

[rickdearr]

Someone said it above, diversify... Get the link love from anywhere you can, add revenue from multiple sources. x3xsolxdierx3x has it right, the web2.0 stuff is here to stay, you can win and they can too. Heck in most cases, they already are... Join'em

[Jeremy123]

create content that is useful to the visitor

[kgloh23]

So sad, but how long need to take to make $100 per day from Adsense? So far I make only few dollars from Adsense.

[x3xsolxdierx3x]

Originally Posted by rickdearr

Someone said it above, diversify... Get the link love from anywhere you can, add revenue from multiple sources. x3xsolxdierx3x has it right, the web2.0 stuff is here to stay, you can win and they can too. Heck in most cases, they already are... Join'em

I'm in agreement with those who agree with me...lol

Not only are they 'here to stay', but those sites are upwards of the most popular and trafficked websites online....

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

Yes, I'd HIGHLY recommend using revenue sharing/web 2.0 properties.....others won't agree with me, however, I have never had that issue.

I haven't had any significant issues either but I've pretty much stopped using this model myself. Why? I've seen too many other people have significant issues from ever changing rules to unexpected shutdowns and sell-offs.

For example, I know several people who built some very nice content and making decent money at today.com. Then the company sold the domain to NBC and all that revenue was lost. Another example is the recent shake-up at Blogger.

It's not to say you can't have problems with self-hosting either. I also saw people thrown into survival mode when an inexpensive shared host unexpectedly shutdown. I just think that using other peoples' sites is a higher risk, lower cost, option. You seem to take steps to mitigate the risk somewhat so that's good. As you said, know who you're dealing with.

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

Building your own sites is a thing of the past....it will become harder and harder for your own sites to rank, now that there is the emergence of these revenue share sites gobbling up tons and tons of traffic.

I'll have to disagree with you there. The actual trend is toward search losing traffic to non-revenue sharing social/Web 2.0 sites, primarily Facebook and Twitter. If you can get people to provide content and demographics for your site and you make huge advertising dollars from it, who needs to share revenue?

That said, I think building sites or even a network of sites will remain a viable option for quite some time.

[Davioli]

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

I'm in agreement with those who agree with me...lol

Not only are they 'here to stay', but those sites are upwards of the most popular and trafficked websites online....

Its funny how you mention the whole Ehow debacle (in some other threads) and yet support the whole notion of writing solely for another company's website on a revenue sharing basis.

Who's to say Infobarrel won't be bought over? Aren't the owners human?

When you advocate writing for these websites as a business model or a method of making some part time income.. its great! I'm sure many people who have no clue about making websites will benefit greatly.

When you start discouraging people from stepping up to the plate and building their own web businesses .. you're killing of people's entreprenual spirits.

[Wiserman]

As they say: Content is the king. Still it is sometimes that links are more important. Anyway, $100 a day is goood however you reach it

[x3xsolxdierx3x]

Originally Posted by Davioli

Its funny how you mention the whole Ehow debacle (in some other threads) and yet support the whole notion of writing solely for another company's website on a revenue sharing basis.

Who's to say Infobarrel won't be bought over? Aren't the owners human?

When you advocate writing for these websites as a business model or a method of making some part time income.. its great! I'm sure many people who have no clue about making websites will benefit greatly.

When you start discouraging people from stepping up to the plate and building their own web businesses .. you're killing of people's entreprenual spirits.

"Its funny how you mention the whole Ehow debacle (in some other threads) and yet support the whole notion of writing solely for another company's website on a revenue sharing basis."

Are you aware of eHow shutting down their WCP program, as of a few weeks ago? And...I haven't supported the notion of writing "SOLELY" for another company's website. A wise and prudent IMer would use these sites in conjunction with their own website.

"Who's to say Infobarrel won't be bought over? Aren't the owners human?"

They won't be bought out, nor will the owners relinguish any control over it, ever

"When you start discouraging people from stepping up to the plate and building their own web businesses .. you're killing of people's entreprenual spirits"

I've said, many times, to use these sites in conjunction with your own website. The fact of the matter is that they gain tremendous traffic off of their search engine authority. If you aren't monetizing every end of this continuum, from the revenue share aspect of the site, to affiliate links, and linking directly to your own monetized site, then you are leaving alot of money on the table.

Discouraging?

[Davioli]

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

"Its funny how you mention the whole Ehow debacle (in some other threads) and yet support the whole notion of writing solely for another company's website on a revenue sharing basis."

Are you aware of eHow shutting down their WCP program, as of a few weeks ago? And...I haven't supported the notion of writing "SOLELY" for another company's website. A wise and prudent IMer would use these sites in conjunction with their own website.

"Who's to say Infobarrel won't be bought over? Aren't the owners human?"

They won't be bought out, nor will the owners relinguish any control over it, ever

"When you start discouraging people from stepping up to the plate and building their own web businesses .. you're killing of people's entreprenual spirits"

I've said, many times, to use these sites in conjunction with your own website. The fact of the matter is that they gain tremendous traffic off of their search engine authority. If you aren't monetizing every end of this continuum, from the revenue share aspect of the site, to affiliate links, and linking directly to your own monetized site, then you are leaving alot of money on the table.

Discouraging?

You did mention the following earlier:

Building your own sites is a thing of the past....it will become harder and harder for your own sites to rank, now that there is the emergence of these revenue share sites gobbling up tons and tons of traffic.

As for Infobarrel never being bought over.. well.. like i said earlier.. the owners are human.

[Davioli]

I do however agree with the notion of using these websites in conjunction with your own websites marketing efforts.

peace!

[x3xsolxdierx3x]

Originally Posted by Davioli

You did mention the following earlier:

As for Infobarrel never being bought over.. well.. like i said earlier.. the owners are human.

I apologize. I do believe it will be harder and harder to rank your own site, IMHO....but, I do recall elsewhere talking how you can minimize your risk by using them in conjunction.

As for the second part....

"As for Infobarrel never being bought over.. well.. like i said earlier.. the owners are human."

There is a degree of assumed risk we take no matter what we do in life. Wasn't Bernie Madoff suppose to be a sure thing? My personal way of minimizing my risk is/has been to talk to the owners directly before I contribute any content. This depth of research and evaluation is a far cry from the many who just join these types of sites with little to no idea about how they operate.

The broader lesson here is that, no matter what we do in IM, we should be proactive and agressive in probing for answers wherever uncertainty lies. As another poster had mentioned, there are many things that could go horribly wrong with having your own website, as well.

[Dahlgren]

During Mayday, G00gle slapped two of my microniche sites (each had about 18 pages) from the top 5 in SERP to 150+. They were earning me quite a bit of money, daily.

Luckily, they were also ranked high on Yahoo and Bing. Of course, earnings dipped to 20-30% of historical levels, but I was thankful that I didn't lose all income.

Sigh. I'm not sure why G00gle slapped them and not the 6 page sites I had. Also, my 18-page sites that were slapped had a bounce rate in the 30% range -- definitely better than average, according to G00gle ANALytics. Go figure.

[x3xsolxdierx3x]

Originally Posted by Dahlgren

During Mayday, G00gle slapped two of my microniche sites (each had about 18 pages) from the top 5 in SERP to 150+. They were earning me quite a bit of money, daily.

Luckily, they were also ranked high on Yahoo and Bing. Of course, earnings dipped to 20-30% of historical levels, but I was thankful that I didn't lose all income.

Sigh. I'm not sure why G00gle slapped them and not the 6 page sites I had. Also, my 18-page sites that were slapped had a bounce rate in the 30% range -- definitely better than average, according to G00gle ANALytics. Go figure.

How many microniche sites do you have? Do they all earn quite well?

[Jeremy123]

the cure is to add more quality content and get more links from relevant sites.

also put up a form where people can ask questions, then post the questions and answers

I did that and within a month or 2 the pr of that page was a 2, and there are no backlinks

add value and be rewarded

[valiantbearded]

Sites have been in receipt of 'slapped' left accurate and centre the last few weeks. It didn't matter if they were great sites, small sites, new sites, old sites. Are you in no doubt it isn't just this?d

[Clyde]

A lot of misinformation in this thread, SMH.

[yukon]

Originally Posted by Al Mukmin

A lot of misinformation in this thread, SMH.

Is that based on the Ads in your Sig?

[Web Dev]

Something like that happened to one of my friends.

But he was making $89 a day. Anyway, I think it's always best to stay under radar sometimes.

Something I usually tell my visitors is to use proper SEO, because it sounds crazy to see all your efforts go down in one day

[calfred]

Did you build too many sites too fast?

I heard that's a really big red flag to G.

[victoriakeenato]

If you earn a bit of money for each click on a narrow site, AdSense is profitable only with the construction of a lot of sites in different niches, if you find a niche site that gets a lot of traffic very little competition in top 10, which pays well per click. Google slap sites as they want, without any explanation. They just direct you to their webmaster guidelines to find out for yourself why you hit.

[rain21]

I got fed up with google adsense long time before,anyway there are lot of other networks to make money... there are lot of people earn more money from other ad networks than google adsense, below url can show you the statistics.
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[Rough Outline]

Lesson: Don't use Adsense as your monetisation method.

So many better alternatives.

[Steve Crooks]

Nonsense. Of course there are many different monetisation methods but Adsense is incredible when you get it right.

Originally Posted by Rough Outline

Lesson: Don't use Adsense as your monetisation method.

So many better alternatives.

[Lukas]

I heard adsense should be 2nd, 3rd or 4th when you get it right. As an example, Mondays through Thursday are usually big days for me in AS, but today is really weird. I am usually at 20 to 30 by noon, today it is less than a buck, with almost the same impressions so the system ain't down or delayed. TODAY is just unreal !

I heard to really make moolah, that one should do CPA, it is the way to go, then have your own advertising slots for companies on your own sites, membership subscriptions, then AS. I am doing CPA and monetizing other ways so hopefully it is a 1-day blip. Or maybe G found my remarks about them building their empire to be everywhere, in every product, every service while not perfecting it (Analytics, Adwords customer support) and make their own international laws derogatory.

[thebitbotdotcom]

Originally Posted by peacedr

I thought everyone wrote articles for the backlinks. At least articles you end up submitting to ezinearticles, etc.

That's just one of the benefits. Great articles that are resources get spread all over the place funneling back reputation points.

[princeambrose12]

Sites should be slapped on the left, right and center in recent weeks. It does not matter if they were large areas, small areas, new sites, old sites. Are you sure it's not just that?