$100 per day in Adsense.. slapped

[rankinghero]

A few weeks ago, I asked in the Warrior Forum, I was someone making more than $100 per day in Adsense.

I was... and after making that amount I had a visit from Google in a visual inspection and SLAPPED....

all my minisites are gone.... only the real sites with some type of authority.

Overall I'm a bit sad... I make over 10K per month... and adsense was a nice bonus. I will still make 1K per month but it is pretty annoying to see your hard work gone.

Lessons learned:

Build Authority

If you are going to pay for 20 articles for a site... + 20 articles for link building... mmm why not make an Ebook Report and put it out there in Clickbank?

Don't rely in Google...

Adsense sounds lovely, but don't forget the FOOTPRINT... this means: google will always know your network.

Rely more in passive income that doesn't rely in ranking (I know this sounds weird)... but instead work on building list, membership sites or selling products.

It is funny... this happen when I was in Fiji in a 5 starts hotel with my 2 kids and my wife. At the same time that I lost almost 12K per year in adsense based on 1 decision from 1 Google Engineer... I made the same scoring a few deals doing SEO consulting.

So EXPAND....

To Google : Any small defeat is a push to take me higher.
Lesson learned: There is so much money to make out there...

Bye bye Adsense

Hello Much more money in other type of networks

Warriors: don't let a slap take you down: That's what THEY WANT.

Instead build more, build smarter, build and grow your business, your family, your empire.

[Wi]

I'm sorry to hear that... Although... 12k per year is not right is it?

It must be 36k per year?

I mean... $100 per day is around $3.000 per month, which is $36.000 per year.

$10.000 per month, and adsense which is $3.000 is a nice... bonus? It's a lot of money dude!

[rankinghero]

Ah yes... even more depressing... I lost 2K per month... but I guess.. you can't "loose" the money you haven't made yet.

[Ernie Lonardo]

What made your better sites "authority sites" was it mainly due to having more content/pages?

[rankinghero]

Hey Mate

Mainly is was sites that

a) have been longer
b) update daily
c) have been ranked 1st for solid keywords ... not long term keywords
d) big sites. over 200+ pages.

[evertd]

What exactly do you mean ...

Originally Posted by rankinghero

all my minisites are gone....

Delisted? Adsense no longer served? What?

[misterkailo]

I have yet to see this problem with mine as I keep updating them.

[msalston]

With that being said, I am new to the world of marketing. Is adsense a good idea for a beginner like me?

[lselvon]

With that being said, I am new to the world of marketing. Is adsense a good idea for a beginner like me?

If you are new to making money online, then adsense might be worth a try. You make money when they click on an add on your site. Depending on the type of sites, what you earn per clicks will vary. The ads have to be targeted with what you site is talking about to get the clicks. Basically you need articles, best if unique content, and then you place ads along the article content on your web site.

If you earn little money per clicks per niche site, then adsense is only profitable by building lots of sites in different niches, unless you can find niche site that gets lots of traffic with very little competition for a top 10 rank, that pays good per clicks. Google slap sites as they want without giving any explanation. They just direct you to their webmaster guidelines to figure out yourself why they slapped you.

The best way to survive online is to run a stable business by building a list of targeted prospects in your niche or number of niches. Best not to sell to them upfront and spend time building a relationship with your list(s). If you can achieve that, then they will buy from you whenever you offer something of value to them.

[misterkailo]

Originally Posted by rankinghero

A few weeks ago, I asked in the Warrior Forum, I was someone making more than $100 per day in Adsense.

I was... and after making that amount I had a visit from Google in a visual inspection and SLAPPED....

all my minisites are gone.... only the real sites with some type of authority.

Overall I'm a bit sad... I make over 10K per month... and adsense was a nice bonus. I will still make 1K per month but it is pretty annoying to see your hard work gone.

Lessons learned:

Build Authority

If you are going to pay for 20 articles for a site... + 20 articles for link building... mmm why not make an Ebook Report and put it out there in Clickbank?

Don't rely in Google...

Adsense sounds lovely, but don't forget the FOOTPRINT... this means: google will always know your network.

Rely more in passive income that doesn't rely in ranking (I know this sounds weird)... but instead work on building list, membership sites or selling products.

It is funny... this happen when I was in Fiji in a 5 starts hotel with my 2 kids and my wife. At the same time that I lost almost 12K per year in adsense based on 1 decision from 1 Google Engineer... I made the same scoring a few deals doing SEO consulting.

So EXPAND....

To Google : Any small defeat is a push to take me higher.
Lesson learned: There is so much money to make out there...

Bye bye Adsense

Hello Much more money in other type of networks

Warriors: don't let a slap take you down: That's what THEY WANT.

Instead build more, build smarter, build and grow your business, your family, your empire.

You didn't mention if your Adsense account was banned. Were your sites deindex, adsense banned? or both?

Your authority sites use Adsense?

[peter_act]

I've been in Adsense for years, and never made anything more than a few dollars.

I also didn't like the way that Google has control, so I have now ditched Adsense completely.

Another worrying facctor is that Ezinearticles is putting so many conditions on article submission that I've ditched them also.

I'm honest, the only reason I wrote articles was to get the backlinks.

Cheers

[peacedr]

I thought everyone wrote articles for the backlinks. At least articles you end up submitting to ezinearticles, etc.

[Fraggler]

How do you know you had a visual inspection? What was the referrer/Agent ID so we can look out for it?

Sites have been getting 'slapped' left right and centre the last few weeks. It didn't matter if they were large sites, small sites, new sites, old sites. Are you sure it isn't just this?

[rankinghero]

Originally Posted by evertd

What exactly do you mean ...




Delisted? Adsense no longer served? What?

Yes. Lost all type of ranking....

[rankinghero]

Originally Posted by Fraggler

How do you know you had a visual inspection? What was the referrer/Agent ID so we can look out for it?

Sites have been getting 'slapped' left right and centre the last few weeks. It didn't matter if they were large sites, small sites, new sites, old sites. Are you sure it isn't just this?

I have to get back to you with that data...

I have no idea if this is happening to more people.., the only thing that I know is that the sites that DIDN'T have adsense are all healthy....

[rankinghero]

Originally Posted by misterkailo

You didn't mention if your Adsense account was banned. Were your sites deindex, adsense banned? or both?

Your authority sites use Adsense?

My authority sites use adsense... yes.... but not as the only way to monetize

The sites where deindexed...

[misterkailo]

Originally Posted by rankinghero

My authority sites use adsense... yes.... but not as the only way to monetize

The sites where deindexed...

So your authority sites were deindexed as well? You said your authority sites are fine.

I'm so confused...

[rankinghero]

Holy cow... I should sleep more...

my authority sites are perfect. No banned. No slapped.

[Fraggler]

Originally Posted by rankinghero

Yes. Lost all type of ranking....

There is a difference to having sites lose their rankings and being deindexed. If you were deindexed you will have a message in Webmaster Tools saying you broke the webmaster guidelines and you won't get any results for site:domainname.com.

If your sites have lost rankings (large drop) then it will be due to other issues, not AdSense. Lots of sites are experiencing weird results from Google at the moment.

Check the last few pages of the Google results and see if your pages are there for previous high ranking terms.

[verbose]

Here is the deal. Goggle has always said that the sites have to have value for the surfer. 1 page wonders not going to do it anymore.Also make sure there is a privacy policy in place

[jacksonlin]

Ranking Hero

How big were your mini sites?

Could you show us an example of what one would look like?

I have a few sites that have 15 - 50 pages. I wonder if they would be considered mini sites.

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Fraggler

There is a difference to having sites lose their rankings and being deindexed.

Yea, i'm so utterly confused. First, its lost ranking, then deindexed, then ??? It's hard to understand what's going on with the wrong terminology.

[derekwong28]

As long as you use Adsense or webmaster tools, you will always provide an easy footprint for Google to identidy all your best performing sites. A Google employee who works for the Adsense team once told me that the what is MFA is very ill-defined and changes all the time at Google's whim.

It was nearly 2 years to the date when Google started de-indexing my sites en masse and my revenue have yet to make a meaningful recovery. At its worse, they were de-indexing sites indiscriminately e.g. sites with completely unique content such as dissertations and theses. Even now, I have a dedicated server that I cannot use for new sites but I am keeping it to host mysql databases for sites on other servers.

[peter_act]

Originally Posted by peacedr

I thought everyone wrote articles for the backlinks. At least articles you end up submitting to ezinearticles, etc.

I know that's what everyone does, but EZA is getting a bit too full of itself.
They now expect the articles to contain quality information, and the links to go back to sites with quality content on them, so you can't link directly to an affiliate sales page, or even to your own sales page, if that's all your site is. i.e. you're only writing the article to get a sale.

All in all, too many rules at EZA for me - I now only submit to other directories.

[rankinghero]

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

Yea, i'm so utterly confused. First, its lost ranking, then deindexed, then ??? It's hard to understand what's going on with the wrong terminology.

Let me explain it easier

my pages where sites like ... bluecheapwidget.com

1st in google for bluecheapwidget

not they will not rank for bluecheapwidget any more.

[FiverrGuru]

may be because of mayday update

[CindyLathim]

Rankinghero... sorry to hear that. That is not nice of them.

[rankinghero]

Originally Posted by CindyLathim

Rankinghero... sorry to hear that. That is not nice of them.

lol

Thanks... (I guess)

that is the most extrange comment of the day. It's similar to what my 4 year old boy will say... "is that people goodies or baddies? "

[Craig McPherson]

Originally Posted by rankinghero

Let me explain it easier

my pages where sites like ... bluecheapwidget.com

1st in google for bluecheapwidget

not they will not rank for bluecheapwidget any more.

Thanks for that

[terryd]

Perhaps it was just the may update, I've read a lot of people experiencing the same thing, myself included.

I don't think you even had a visual inspection as if that were the case they would be more likely to ban your account altogether instead of just "slapping you" as it were.

[Fraggler]

Originally Posted by rankinghero

1st in google for bluecheapwidget

not they will not rank for bluecheapwidget any more.

That's a huge difference to having the sites deindexed. Your sites were likely to suffer that fate regardless of having Adsense on them. There has been an algorithmic change and sites all over are experiencing weird results.

Your authority sites are fine because they are probably decent sites according to the Google algorithm, not because someone at the Google HQ said they were ok.

[cashcow]

How do you know you had a manual inspection?

Seems to me if you did then Goog would have de-indexed you but above it sounds like you just lost your rankings.

Lee

[T Simmons]

My God that's awful!
Did they not even give you the chance to change things on your site that they didn't like?

[paulgl]

There are some pretty good replies in this thread.
Hate to see a warrior taken down, wish you good luck.

My standpoint has always been to err on the side of caution.
Google has told people for years what they want. You can
either listen or not. You can keep on following and doing, and
this forum will continue to fill with these stories.

A MFA adsense site may be ill-defined because they have no need
to define one. BUT....they sure have a definition for a decent site.

Bad performing sites don't get banned. (performing what?)
Non-decent sites get the slap down.

Paul

[mattalways]

Even after reading everything here, I'm not sure what happened? Were you doing well with Adsense with Google search engine traffic? Then Google took away your good rankings, and you aren't earning now?

Are you sure you didn't just move down in the rankings? Maybe you had some links coming from one source and they went down, or they decided those links didn't matter? Something like that?

[Walter Gane]

again many people have express their expertrate advice on the issue of adsense
and their words have made me jiltry because am a newbie when it comes to adsense
money making system but if l may ask.... l used free articles on my blogs and also keep bio /resource box of the original articles owner intact, with this l got low click which result into few dollars but not satisfy.

since l have been in this kind of attitude for a few period of time have never got slap
by google but l was told that, getting slapped is the attitude of google.

walter gane

[paulgl]

Originally Posted by Walter Gane

...since l have been in this kind of attitude for a few period of time have never got slap
by google but l was told that, getting slapped is the attitude of google.

walter gane

Biggest myth about google. That somehow they are just going around de-indexing,
banning, slapping, etc. for no reason. The myth is propagated by the numerous
threads started here, "Google banned me for no reason...."

A hard to find reason does not mean a reason does not exist. Most of the time, however,
it's staring you in the face.

Paul

[blog]

My niche site also been slap...My income drop > 80%

[VAIL]

What quantity of pages would be considered a mini site? 1-15?

What quantity is acceptable by the Goog? 50+?

How many words or how much content is needed on a page to be considered worthy?

Thanks!

[misterkailo]

did you try doing site:bluewidgetwhatever.com of your site on Google?

If it is still there, then it is not de-indexed.

[iseo]

Sorry, I don't understand, what did you do exactly for them to ban your account?

Cheers!

ISEO

[FranksToys]

I too had a network taken out, I was about 1/2 what you were making a day but scaling and growing nicely.

Then slap, beginning of this month I lost everything, all my rankings and all my Adsense.

I'm gonna continue to build them out, they aren't deindexed I just lost all my rankings. I think it was a result of the MayDay update, which I think affected exact match domains immediate rankings.

[DPM70]

I'm confused about the "page" terminology that gets used sometimes. If I have a WP blog that has 150+ posts (but, say, only 4/5 pages), am I liable to not get any love from Google due to lack of "pages"?

My blogs with many "posts" seem to do OK so I'm not overly worried - until I hear about people losing SERPs positions etc. due to too few "pages"!? - Or do they merely mean "posts" when saying "pages"?

[Janedoe]

The folks at Google most likely read and maybe even post here. So one thing to keep in mind is that whenever there are specific link schemes developed and discussed in forums in about 6 months lead time Google may take them out with an algo change. I used to track some of the 30 day challenge peoples' sites. Some of their sites were rocking in the serps for awhile and then one day when I'd check on them they would be nowhere in the top 100. I think their common back link patterns may have set up a red flag and made them pretty easy to take out programatically.

[numba8]

Originally Posted by peter_act

I've been in Adsense for years, and never made anything more than a few dollars.

I also didn't like the way that Google has control, so I have now ditched Adsense completely.

Another worrying facctor is that Ezinearticles is putting so many conditions on article submission that I've ditched them also.

I'm honest, the only reason I wrote articles was to get the backlinks.

Cheers

Its why we all write articles ;-)

[inter123]

So all the mini sites have suffered in the ranking, the exception is the big authority site and the Adsense account is still preserved.

How many pages did the mini sites consist of?

[lisaann]

Sorry to hear this, but you know ... you could just try a little harder with your sites. Add more content and build more links back to them and they'll probably all come up and start earning you more than they were before.

It doesn't sound like you were banned from Adsense or de-indexed so you still have your sites.

Lisa

[bill_stevenson]

Hello first of all i am sorry i am confused about ur talking in adsense because i am a new guy can anybody broad minded people explain me or any e-book available step by step guide to earn money through adsense please send me link or send me text file containing guide to start earn in adsense thanks by Bill

[mattalways]

Originally Posted by bill_stevenson

Hello first of all i am sorry i am confused about ur talking in adsense because i am a new guy can anybody broad minded people explain me or any e-book available step by step guide to earn money through adsense please send me link or send me text file containing guide to start earn in adsense thanks by Bill

I have used Adsense for about 5 years. After 3 months in I have received a cheque every month (direct deposit now). Even reading this makes me a bit jittery even though I have no idea what he's talking about lol. 5 years though following the rules, and no ban (or slap).

So new people out there, don't worry, as I'm not even sure what he's talking about! I think his minisites just lost their rankings. That happens if you fill Google with junk - sorry.

I can get a site ranking high if I just start it, then it moves down. It just sounds like you need to work harder lol. Not sure why you are just laying down and taking it right now? Just get the rankings back! lol.

Also agree with the post above. Unless you're doing something real bad, Google is not going around manually removing sites!

[zingo454]

The Mayday algo update slapped minisites/microsites.... If you have quality content and some quality links coming to your minisites they will be o.k or over time will do ok.. ,,, if your relying on article links and easy quick ranking from "exact domain name with keyword" it is now a thing of the past.. I have my theory's of what they did if anyone want to hear if not I wont bother writing them..

Read this from a Google Engineer, read second to last paragraph..

Google's Maile Ohye Morning Keynote - SES Toronto - Online Marketing Blog