If the duplicate content penalty is a myth...

Davide Guarneri · 07-02-2010, 06:09 AM

Hi everyone, first question I ask here. Sorry if the answer is common knowledge and for my bad english.

We all know that google likes sites which are updated frequently. What I ask is: if google really doesn't derank a site because it has duplicate content, what's stopping me from making my real original content sticky (I'm thinking wordpress blog here) and then adding regularly articles from articles directory to give the impression that I'm updating the site? Most of my visitors won't even see them, since my real content is stickied at the top.

Any thoughts?

macaronnik · 07-02-2010, 06:16 AM

maybe Google makes this as spam
maybe not (if Your blog has PR >= 5)

paulgl · 07-02-2010, 06:55 AM

You are mixing up duplicate content with editing. Among
a few other things.

The myth is that google loves sites that are updated
frequently. Some sites may need updating, others don't.

If you have a good, solid, website, it can hold its own for
a long time. Maybe even years.

Duplicate content is not spam.

However, if you stuff your site with nothing but gleaned
articles from article sites, your website really has no real
value, does it? It may fly under the radar and it may not.

Paul

sijugk · 07-02-2010, 06:56 AM

For SE its ok. BTW your feed readers will see the articles from article directories and gradually they may think you are not generating your own content but just copying from free resources.

Michael Nguyen · 07-02-2010, 07:01 AM

Duplicate content if it's not "relevent" enough,

"relevent" could mean:
lots of backlinks,
age of domain,
PR of page
PR of domain
and much more...

will most likely be thrown into the supplementary index.

CJ.Online · 07-02-2010, 07:16 AM

I personally think it's a bad idea. Your readers are going to get the wrong impression of your site. That, I can promise you.

SEO Training Alliance · 07-02-2010, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davide Guarneri

Hi everyone, first question I ask here. Sorry if the answer is common knowledge and for my bad english.

We all know that google likes sites which are updated frequently. What I ask is: if google really doesn't derank a site because it has duplicate content, what's stopping me from making my real original content sticky (I'm thinking wordpress blog here) and then adding regularly articles from articles directory to give the impression that I'm updating the site? Most of my visitors won't even see them, since my real content is stickied at the top.

Any thoughts?

Nothing is stopping you from doing this. But your sticky content won't rank much better at all simply because your site is updated frequently, unique content or other wise.

When you say "google likes sites that update frequently" what that actually means is that they will crawl a site more frequently is the content is updated more frequently. You may get some pagerank updates also from the sheer volume of pages created, but none of that really has much to do with laser targeting specific content to rank i.e. your sticky content.

twayneking · 07-02-2010, 12:23 PM

Curious about that issue myself. I've got blogs that do feeds to other blogs owned by me. My main blog feeds to my Facebook Notes page and to my Open Salon site. Is this going to reduce my ranking with search engines. Also what about all those link posts to Twitter and Facebook. Do those impact your ranking. I'm kind of a search engine infant here. I just write vast amounts of original content. I'm not doing very well with my SEO efforts despite having a small group of devoted followers. What do I need to be doing?

Phasm · 07-02-2010, 12:32 PM

The myth is that there is an actual penalty attached to duplicate content. The truth is that if you take an article that's already indexed in Google, your site will be far more unlikely to be indexed (and rank) for it as well.

Shaunman · 07-02-2010, 08:34 PM

You site will not be penalized for duplicate content. For instance if you have 99 duplicate content pages on your site and 1 original page you can still rank that original page in the search engines.

However if 1 person searches for something and 2 articles say exactly the same thing the SE will have the find the article that is the most relevent and only list that one.

If you can convince Google you are the original source then you'll get the listing.

Still better to have original content however.

07-02-2010, 06:09 AM	#1
Davide Guarneri Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If the duplicate content penalty is a myth... Hi everyone, first question I ask here. Sorry if the answer is common knowledge and for my bad english. We all know that google likes sites which are updated frequently. What I ask is: if google really doesn't derank a site because it has duplicate content, what's stopping me from making my real original content sticky (I'm thinking wordpress blog here) and then adding regularly articles from articles directory to give the impression that I'm updating the site? Most of my visitors won't even see them, since my real content is stickied at the top. Any thoughts?

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