Ryan Deiss Authority Codes report and No Follow

[larrybrown]

You've probably seen Ryan Deiss' new Authority Codes report (if not google it) where he talks about NoFollow not mattering as far as Backlinking is concerned.

What do you guys think? Is Ryan right or is he full of it? I didn't see any real evidence he was offering other then, "i'm Ryan Deiss so trust me."

Do you guys pay that much attention to NoFollow?

Larry

[jaywilsonjr]

My understanding is that no-follow tags are only relevant for Google. All other search engines pay no attention to the no follow tags. So with that said, the back link will count with all other engines....

or so I have heard...


Jay

[GTCRESSY]

I watched all of the videos and read the report and I have to say that I was impressed with the content that was in everything. I have no problem accepting what he said about the no-follow items. It made perfect sense to me. I guess that sometimes you just havee to accept what a person is saying at face value. Besides, what wopuld he have to gain by telling us something that wasn't true? He'd just ruin his reputation. And I don't think that he would want to do that.

[niffybranco]

Search engines do not buy stuff people buy stuff and if all you do is go after do follow links just for the sake of google you are only selling your self short

@jaywilsonjr you are right as far as i know only google pays attention to do follow.

If you are leaving quality content and comments on high powered , high traffic blogs and website then you should not worry about do follow or no follow as the average internet user does not know what that means, you should be more worried about your content being quality enough to drive that reader to your website.

• Google is not the only source of traffic on the internet.
• Backlinks serve two purposes getting you ranked high in the search engines , and also people will click on your backlinks to get to your site.

The time wasted on checking if a site is dofollow is time that could have been spent creating quality content and embedding your link in it.

If your content is compelling enough to get your link clicked on and it drives just one person to your site cause they are interested in what you are offering and it eventually leads that one person to either buy your product or opt in to your list then that single link might just make you a lot more money than 100 do follow links built soley for spiders.

As i said before spiders do not buy stuff or opt in to your list people do.

[Will Edwards]

It seems like common sense to me that a link on a relevant site with no follow would be more valuable than a link on an irrelevant site that is do follow

[Zeus66]

"Real" links (votes) would pop up without any regard to dofollow or nofollow attributes, right? So if you're down with the idea of appearing as "natural" as possible, a mix would be your best approach. I guess. Probably. Who freaking knows, when you get right down to it?

John

[suffolkman]

I understand that some marketers would say that you should provide both do follow and no follow backlinks. This is so that the search engines see a more 'natural' growth of backlinking.

Just saved this and John above came in with the save comment.

Great minds thik a like.

Peter V

[karaboga]

I am really confused about this report. He says we need to blogcomment to .edu and .gov sites and it is not important if they're follow or no-follow. However, I don't believe that blogcommented and no-follow links work good. Tell me if I am mistaken

[Jeff Hampton]

Originally Posted by karaboga

I am really confused about this report. He says we need to blogcomment to .edu and .gov sites and it is not important if they're follow or no-follow. However, I don't believe that blogcommented and no-follow links work good. Tell me if I am mistaken

If your concern is only achieving a higher page rank, then nofollow links don't help, at least based on the past couple of years of data various people have collected about Google searches.

However, Google made a major change in June. It was a huge infrastructure change, and a fairly small algorithm change. But the point of the infrastructure change as to enable drastic algorithm changes in the future. Google is moving to real time search, and it looks like traffic has/will soon become a factor in determining SERP's.

And Ryan is not talking about getting nofollow links on a bunch of PR0 blogs, or even PR1 or PR2. He's talking about placing links on PR5, PR6, PR7 sites. It works, it's free and it's dead easy. These sites have lots of traffic, so they are going to bring visitors to your site, regardless.

Yes, dofollow links are still better. But honsetly, for the type of links he's taking about in this report, it's makes a whole lot more sense to just take the link and not even bother checking the follow status.

[Fraggler]

Originally Posted by Zeus66

"Real" links (votes) would pop up without any regard to dofollow or nofollow attributes, right? So if you're down with the idea of appearing as "natural" as possible, a mix would be your best approach. I guess. Probably. Who freaking knows, when you get right down to it?

John

Where do you naturally get links that are no-follow? The only time a link should be no follow is if it is an advertisement on your site and you do not vouch for the advertiser. ie paid links or user controlled links.

Comments and profiles aren't a natural form of getting links. Do you see the big authority sites out posting comments or create profiles? The authority sites get links written inside quality relevant content. It is very rare to see these as no-follow.

The only place that would be an exception is Twitter. If Google wants to take into account social buzz they can create exceptions in their rules quite easily.

[kb24]

Using the .edu and .gov search strings Im putting in my keywords or keywords in general Im not really getting results... is there anyway I can see alot of results?

[LilBlackDress]

What I find when I try to comment on these blogs is that unless I am using my root domain name I get a blank page. I am already no. 1 for root domain...I want to rank for kw for other pages.
But I pop in the full URL of pages on my site and the KW and get the blank white page.

So how effective is that?

[HunterSnake]

Originally Posted by jaywilsonjr

My understanding is that no-follow tags are only relevant for Google. All other search engines pay no attention to the no follow tags.

Originally Posted by niffybranco

@jaywilsonjr you are right as far as i know only google pays attention to do follow.

These statements are incorrect.

I recommend that the proceeding thread be read in its entirety.

'nofollow' still good for Yahoo, Bing, AOL?

[jaaproos]

Originally Posted by Fraggler

Comments and profiles aren't a natural form of getting links. Do you see the big authority sites out posting comments or create profiles? The authority sites get links written inside quality relevant content. It is very rare to see these as no-follow.

I see that all the time. Not themselves but people do refer to wikipedia, newspapers and other sources in their blog posts and comments all the time.

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by Fraggler

The authority sites get links written inside quality relevant content.

Go to ZDNet.com and scroll down to the bottom of the page and look at the links in the footer. Just because you have quality relevant content doesn't mean that you want to ignore other SEO methods.

Surprisingly, there are authority sites do obtain links in some of the same ways we do, simply on a larger scale. It's true you won't find them getting profile links and doing Squidoo/Hubpages but often they do build networks of supporting sites. After all, imagine what $10K, $100K or even $1M in funding could buy you in terms of a supporting SEO network. How many PR4-6 domains could you buy if you had a budget of 'only' $100K?

[kb24]

Originally Posted by kb24

Using the .edu and .gov search strings Im putting in my keywords or keywords in general Im not really getting results... is there anyway I can see alot of results?

Can anyone answer my question?

[larrybrown]

That would be a great question for Ryan Deiss.

[4d-media.ca]

I was wondering this same thing after reading Ryan's report. I had to do a double-take. Do we really not even have to worry about nofollow anymore?

[fut]

If you guys have read over at bluehatseo.com you'll notice he says the same thing. DoFollow or noFollow does not matter.

[SEO Training Alliance]

I don't check whether a link is do-follow or no follow, particularly when its just a blog comment I'm making myself and its on a high pr and or relevant site. There is no harm in having no-follow links, the only time I would make sure links are do follow is when I'm outsourcing them. In that case I'd rather at least 80% were do-follow.

[pdrs]

Guys I think some of you are reading way to much into this. He's not saying you don't have to worry about nofollow/dofollow anymore. It's just that having some nofollow links from relevant sites with good content is certainly not going to hurt anything!

[pdrs]

I was actually more interested to know though, since these have been out for awhile, are people still using them, do they really do much for your rankings?

[Wakunahum]

Originally Posted by Fraggler

Where do you naturally get links that are no-follow?

Make videos and link to articles or pages on your site in the descriptions. Most of those are nofollow and a very natural way of linking since everyone does it regardless if they know what SEO is or not.

[WealthWithin]

Saying 'nofollow' links are the same as dofollow links is just wishful thinking.


I like Ryan Deiss. But you shouldn't believe all the stuff said by 'guru's without testing.
ALL of Ryan's businesses are based around PPC and list building. He doesn't do hands-on SEO as a traffic source.