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Old 07-28-2010, 09:10 AM   #1
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Default How do you prevent being a spammer?

I've seen some people did experiments and says its pretty hard to get your sites deindexed. On the other hand, some people go overcautious.

How do you know you're not doing too much SEO work? The reason I'm asking is because in september, my workers will start doing the following:

50 linkvanas a day
3 UAWs a day
30 article directory submissions (ezine, hub, goarticles, etc)
10 URLs added bookmarking demon a day (at 10-20 submissions each)

That's a few thousand backlinks per month. These are spread over 8 websites(topics) though, yet all 8 websites have the same IP. Oh, and they're all to different URLs. Only a small portion will be to front page. They link to different category pages, articles on 8 different websites... so...

Is this too much or pushing it? Or is the diversification keeping me safe?
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Hi Nirvanos,

Your thread title asks: "How do you prevent being a spammer?" You might rephrase that to ask "what constitutes spam?".

I think a reasonable way to define spam is: totally self serving content that offers no real value to users. You might also add content and techniques that violate the terms and policy's of the sites where you place your links (unwanted content).

None of the techniques you mentioned would be considered spam by the above definition, as long as you are posting useful and relevant content in a way that does not violate the terms of those sites.

Furthermore, you should not be concerned with the amount of promotion you are doing as long as you are using meritorious link building methods. You are not going to make anyone upset creating tons of useful content, save your competitors that you are leaving in your dust.

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Yep, in fact, I only use VALUE-adding, relevant, unique content. Every single one of these is an original, high-quality article.

So my only issues is can you OVER-do promotion even when you're using high-quality, white-hat method. (and a little gray).
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Yep, in fact, I only use VALUE-adding, relevant, unique content. Every single one of these is an original, high-quality article.

So my only issues is can you OVER-do promotion even when you're using high-quality, white-hat method. (and a little gray).
... "a little gray"? You could pass a lot of black hat through a "little gray" hole. This implies you are doing both white hat and black hat methods (white mixed with black = gray). There is no limit to how much white hat promotion you can do, ten times the most amount you can image is not too much.

However, when it comes to black hat, you are skating on thin ice and virtually everything you do will become worthless over time. Doing black hat methods is kind of like being on a treadmill, you must keep up the pace of promotion or you will quickly lose ground. You may see quicker results, but nothing you do will last very long and you must repeat over and over just to maintain the ground you previously gained.

It is for that reason that most black hatters end up becoming massive spammers, they tend to escalate their activities to massive scale as it's the only way to gain ground.

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... "a little gray"? You could pass a lot of black hat through a "little gray" hole. This implies you are doing both white hat and black hat methods (white mixed with black = gray). There is no limit to how much white hat promotion you can do, ten times the most amount you can image is not too much.

However, when it comes to black hat, you are skating on thin ice and virtually everything you do will become worthless over time. Doing black hat methods is kind of like being on a treadmill, you must keep up the pace of promotion or you will quickly lose ground. You may see quicker results, but nothing you do will last very long and you must repeat over and over just to maintain the ground you previously gained.

It is for that reason that most black hatters end up becoming massive spammers, they tend to escalate their activities to massive scale as it's the only way to gain ground.
No, I'm mixing lots of white with a little gray All I plan on doing is what's in the original post.

When I say gray, I mean UAW and Linkvana, because technically, they're not white hat, but they're not black hat either. I'm putting bookmark demon under gray as well.

So my question would be then, can you overuse UAW/linkvana?
And as for demon I know you can overuse it, but what would that level be. Thanks.
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If we start counting article marketing as Spam....I'd guess we're all going to be in big, big trouble because that seems as legit as anything out there

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