4 Months After XFactor Method

[williamspd]

Originally Posted by clr

I'm not disparaging him for trying. In fact, it's great that he is putting in effort and I congratulate him. I'm just saying that in the long run this won't be sustainable. You need to aim for quality, not quantity.

How do you know that these sites are not quality? Or mine?

[williamspd]

I'm amazed to hear people dismissing Xfactor's course saying that it doesn't work. It must just be sheer fluke that I and several of my colleagues have used it to make a bunch of money over the last eight months? Since I implemented his principles I doubled my Adsense income. And if you think that my sites are poor quality and that they don't deliver a good user experience, then you've not understood the course properly.

[yukon]

Originally Posted by MarketAbel

WHAT?!

1. Yes, this is an international forum so there are all kinds of economies...
2. I don't know your age, but you look very young...
3. $60/day x 30 days = $1,800 mo = $21,600 or a PT 30 hrs/wk job @ $13.85/hr...

I guess I need to evaluate things, cuz I haven't been able to live on that much since I was single, no kids and 23 years old.

Sorry, but realistically ALOT of normal, average Americans can't live on $60/day...

...and I mean can't as in they would not want to because the lifestyle $60/day affords is not that much.

Me? I would love $60/day in addition to my 40 hour FT job. That would be great!

My $0.02...

Family of 3 (2 adults, 1 child) see my post above. Upstate South Carolina, USA.

Your correct an average American family has debt, I don't have debt, so that makes it easy to live on $56 a day. We still do things, vacation Myrtle Beach, etc...

Sometimes it's not what you make, but what you spend. Get the spending under control, & life gets easier.

[John Taylor]

Originally Posted by Intrepreneur

I said if he needs 110 sites to make $60 per day.

And I have a suspicion it's not even true.

So meh.

There you go with unsubstantiated allegations again.

Any more of this crap and you're out of here.

John

[nathantai]

Good for you. Personally, all my Xfactor sites are officially dead, lost in serps from 1st page rankings in the last 2 months. I've turned off auto renew for all 20+ of my sites.

[buckz55]

110 sites is fking insane....must took a ton of work for 4 months...congrats

[erazer]

Looks like its taking too long for some people to realize exactly what the OP has achieved. $60/day in 4 months is the equivalent of $180/day in a year. That's $65,000/year, every year, without much work going forward. Even if the OP stopped making more sites or adding to his existing sites, those 4 months of work may pay his mortgage for years to come. That'll allow him to do the same thing again with affiliate sites and a year from now he could be making 60-70k and in 2 years, 120-150k, all on autopilot.

[DireStraits]

Originally Posted by EAR-ONS

I actually don't know what the hell I was trying to say.

sorry

Haha. Seriously, I think I understand you.

Many of us could do with a little more motivation, and increased productivity levels. Nothing does that quite like reading the excited success story of someone else. But in every thread, the same survival mechanism that tries to keep you alive in dangerous situations seems to kick in, when other people, in effect, try to warn you about the dangers you cannot see or didn't think about.

But honestly, many people have the tendency to be less than truthful or make outlandish exaggerations sometimes.

How do you know the person who posts the original story isn't making stuff up? You don't, in most cases. Either believe or don't believe, no-one else change that.

How do you know whether the people trying to deter you are making false claims or trying to pass off their guesswork and hunches as fact? Do they even believe they know because of first-hand experience, or because of hearsay and a tendency to repeat - in a chinese whispery sort of way - what they've heard from someone else.

I don't know everything, but I do know this...

- Without action towards accomplishing something, you're almost guaranteed never to accomplish it. Chances are good, if you do nothing, you get nothing. Period.

- Some people who you think might be trying to help you with "good advice" along the way, may be feeding you advice that is not helpful towards you at all. Believe it or not, this applies to gurus too (people whose every word you'd likely hang on, because after all, they must know; they've done it), who may mistakingly attribute their success to the strangest and most ridiculous things. What I'm saying is, even lots of experts don't know what it is that make them successful at something when others fail. A person who is a success in one area does not necessarily make for a good teacher in that area.

- Some people may try - intentionally or unintentionally - to dissuade you from doing something because they had a bad experience with it themselves. The conclusion they've drawn is that it's illegal, immoral, frowned-upon, or whatever. In some cases they may be right; in some cases they might've made mistakes that they themselves don't see or don't care to admit, and that is the real reason they failed. Some people don't like to admit their mistakes, and some people just never see them. But if there's one thing people hate more is seeing others have success in an area they once failed in. If nothing else, that is their motivation to chime in and attempt to dissuade you. Perhaps not becuse they care about you losing out but because they don't want to hear of anyone else defeating them.

So what do you do?

1) Do nothing; achieve nothing.

- or -

2) Take other peoples advice as concrete, either to take action in certain way or dont do something at all. You may be successful or you may fail. If you fail, are you happy to feel that your failure was out of your own hands? If you are, you're probably a weak-minded person who cannot and will not ever take responsibility for your own actions, successes and failures. Business isn't for you; go get a job!

- or -

3) Are you going to step up the plate and carve your own path? Make your own decisions, and be fully accountable for your successes and your failures? Look, it'd be stupid to be ignorant to what everyone has to say because there's always more to learn, but you must choose what you're going to act on, what will paralyze your efforts, and what you're going to let slide.

Do or don't do. If you want it bad enough, making mistakes won't deter you from ever being successful. You'll stand right back up, hone your approch, change your plan, and try again.

If you don't take action - particularly because of fears instilled within you by someone else whose warnings may possibly not even hold any salt - then you probably don't want something bad enough.

If our life is really going to be ours, we need to start calling the shots ourselves.

[brittlesnc]

Thanks DireStraits for that enlightening response. Not to kiss ass but I think that was an excellent way to 'tell it like it is' in ANY business.

Really needed to read that because I keep spinning my wheels and going over the what-ifs and what can go wrong...time to get my ass in gear or I will fail anyway just by not doing anything which is really stupid!

[Clyde]

Every business is risky, you just have to be smart about it. If you advertise with Adwords, you can get slapped, PPV, PPC, Facebook all have their risks as well.

SEO, Bing, Yahoo, Google can all de-index your sites.

on and on..

Bottom line is people that make money will continue to make money by outsmarting everybody else.

[Jonas Iri]

Ok, I had enough of this ramblings on "$60/day is nothing" "this is not the right thing to do" "How can you make a living out of that?" and all the other know-it-all comments on this topic.

I litterally cringe when I read comments like that. Seriously.

And someone is even doubting that he is making that amount at all. What the hell? Yeah, people like to lie to strangers on the internet just to inflate their ego. We are still in elementary school, if things are like that.

$60/day is a HUGE amount of money. Not much for the money per se, but because it has POTENTIAL. He has started setting a CASHFLOW. Those sites need little to no maineinance and the money will still flow through. Now he can use that money to setup something more consistent. With $60/day in PPC he can scale up things quite a lot, setting an higher and more consistent cash flow. And then reinvest that cashflow and make even more money.

How do you think multimillionaires became rich? They just started make their cashflow rolling. And that's where most people fail.

Is it the "right" way to do money? Who cares? And what means "right" anyway? A long term business maybe? Tell me of a business that has not risks. All the businesses, no matter how solid they seem, can fall flat on their face at any time. It's just a rule of business. But if the business falls, you are still erect: your money making mind is still there and that's what matters anyway.

Do not be a hater. Live and let other lives. What works for him may not work for you. Just do not say what is "right" and what is "wrong".

What the hell.

[bay37]

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

You just refuted the point you tried to make in your post.

"...and I mean can't as in they would not want to because the lifestyle $60/day affords is not that much."

Again, if you can't live on $60/day, you need to evaluate some things.

Let's break this down.

-Around here, 700-800/mo for a 2br apartment is standard. (daytona beach, fl).
-$300/mo car + insurance (high)
-$300 groceries (high)
-$300 utilities, gas, etc.
-$100 miscellaneous
-$75 savings

Did I forget anything?

Extravagant? Not by US standards, but surely can be done without much difficulty.

Well I live right next to London (Egham), so here we go:

Simple 1-bed apartment: $900/month
Bills: $200/month
Car: $300/month
Going out once per week: $200/month
Food: $400/month if I cook at home every day
Misc.: $100/month

That's over $2k/month and believe me that's living very modestly.

My point is... whatever. I should just move to the US lol.
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DireStraits, where do you find the time to write those super long posts?

EDIT: OP, well done. Concentrate on 10~ top earners and forget about the other 100 sites. Good luck.

I'm backing out of this discussion, sorry if I came across negative or discouraging (yet again).

Internet rules.

[williamspd]

The original poster has achieved a great deal and well done to him.

If he is at all worried about the future viability of Adsense income, he has already put himself in a great position to diversify. Diversification, and building out authority sites, are two of the things that Xfactor recommended doing once the initial sites were up and earning. A lot of people seem to think that John Xfactor teaches you to build ugly shallow sites that all look the same - he doesn't, they just haven't read the course properly.

Stripping out the non-performing sites would make sense - get 70 performing sites and focus on them rather than on the other 40 underperformers.

Investigating how to create more Adsense accounts safely, and building more Adsense sites under those accounts, so that a slip-up cannot wipe out all of your Adsense income. (Dodgy, grey hat perhaps, but everyone is doing it).

Diversifying some sites into other Ad networks.

Diversifying some sites into affiliate selling.

Focusing on the top peforming sites to build them into authority sites. MFA sites like EzineArticles, eHow, etc., are big enough to be liked by Google despite offering up a lot of barely readable rehashed content, so why not go for it in your niche?

etc.

So the $60 a day is the springboard into all sorts of other things, including, as the OP said himself, dabbling in stocks and shares using this 'free' money. Good luck to you mate, and I look forward to hearing how you get on in future.

[HCLee]

Congrats on such good achievement. I like to find out for all your 110 sites, what is the average no. of pages for each site. Also since you mentioned some of them are not making money you should focus on the top 20 percent which do make money. Then add more pages and optimize each page with a related keyword.

[misterkailo]

The pages of my sites will continue to grow. I am not setting a limit (5 pages per site, 10 pages per site, etc.)

It is not tough at all to maintain these sites. I haven't touch them in a while.

I have other things to do in my life as I clearly mentioned this is supplemental income that I use to invest in stocks. If I lose in stocks, then oh well... it is from this "free money" source.

Also, the average earning does not end at $60. Sites are slowly but surely moving up the SERP, and I already said some of them are still in the sandbox. I have seen more days that are above $60-$75 recently so it really does not end at $60/day.

"I said if he needs 110 sites to make $60 per day.

And I have a suspicion it's not even true."

A lot of my sites are making around 50 to 80 cents range as they only get 1 to 2 clicks per day on average. As mentioned above, my average earnings is not capped at $60.

My AdSense earnings used to be 5-10 cents daily before I started John's method.

With a little more SEO to all my sites, I should be able to push $100/daily without adding more of these sites by end of 2010.

[Tom Goodwin]

Perhaps I need to move
My monthly mortgage + property tax alone is $120/day. East Coast living for ya. Although, if my house was 3 miles away in NJ the property tax would be 150% of what it currently is :-0

..and congrats to the OP, very nice work. My adsense sites are still steaming along as well.

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

You just refuted the point you tried to make in your post.

"...and I mean can't as in they would not want to because the lifestyle $60/day affords is not that much."

Again, if you can't live on $60/day, you need to evaluate some things.

Let's break this down.

-Around here, 700-800/mo for a 2br apartment is standard. (daytona beach, fl).
-$300/mo car + insurance (high)
-$300 groceries (high)
-$300 utilities, gas, etc.
-$100 miscellaneous
-$75 savings

Did I forget anything?

Extravagant? Not by US standards, but surely can be done without much difficulty.

[misterkailo]

Here is a great tip for everyone who is using similar methods to make money on AdSense:

Go here to check on the browser screen resolution statistics: Browser Display Statistics

You want your AdSense to not show the "Ads By Google" above the fold for the general population. What I mean is like this:

http://i25.tinypic.com/jkgn7p.jpg

The majority of internet users are not making money online, visiting Warrior Forum, or know what AdSense is. Most do not use add-ons or anything to clutter up their browsers either.

My site caters to people who use resolution # x 800

If you look in the browser display statistics, then you will find that 20% use 1024x768. My AdSense will still not show "Ads By Google" above the fold for these people so it is fine. If you look in the Higher column, you will see that you can click on 76%. Click on that, and you will see more statistics.

In there, you will see that 17.3% users use 1280x800 resolution. The 1280x1024 crowd will obviously see the words "Ads By Google" above the fold, but some of them will still click on Ads regardless.

If you add 17.3% of 1280x800 users with 20% of 1024x768 users, then you already have more than 1/3 of the internet users who will not see the "Ads By Google" above the fold when they first come into your site.

Tweak your AdSense placement just enough so the words "Ads By Google" will not show up above the fold for the majority of internet users.

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Intrepreneur

You're doing the wrong thing if you need 110 sites to make $60 per day.

Top Earning Blogs – Make Money Online Blogging

That's what you should be doing!

It all depends, right? It comes down to how much time/$$ is involved. If I can put up a new site in an hour, then why not?

[inter123]

$60 a day is good going. Great stuff dude!

I started on Adsense 6 months ago, the initial plan was to build 1 site a day using exact match keyword domain and build possibly 100s of these sites.

Then read a load of stuff about micro-sites receiving the slap from google, so started to go bigger.

In all that time built 1 site which has about 50 pages. So much time has been spent on SEO (whitehat) submitting articles to directories, blog posting, social bookmarking, web 2.0, etc, etc.

But without the exact domain match its harder to rank for keywords and many articles not indexed by google. Its great in that as a novice, its becomes possible to appreciate what works with SEO, which resources are going to be fruitful, and so on.

But as a result, all that time spent on SEO related stuff and not building more content or other sites has meant Adsense earnings are about $200 a month.

With exact match domain match gig, there would be more web sites and more $.

Sometimes its better to take risks and go for it.

[Mike Grant]

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

Perhaps I need to move
My monthly mortgage + property tax alone is $120/day. East Coast living for ya. Although, if my house was 3 miles away in NJ the property tax would be 150% of what it currently is :-0

..and congrats to the OP, very nice work. My adsense sites are still steaming along as well.

I know exactly how you feel. I moved from Cherry Hill, NJ

[chas08]

Originally Posted by clr

Hey guys, first post here.

I've been an online entrepreneur for years and am new to this MMO deal.

That is, I've been making money online via startups for quite a while without realizing that there is a whole industry dedicated "making money online".

I actually found this forum on Google, and the XFactor thread was what came up in the search results.

For the past month or so I've been reading and absorbing the various threads here, and to me it's been quite interesting. Here are my thoughts:

"XFactor" Method

Building a farm of MFA mini-sites is like making a house of cards. It may hold up for a while, but ultimately it'll be doomed to collapse. Do you think Google really wants these "4 slice toaster" sites cluttering up their index? The hammer will come down eventually.

The takeaway that you should be getting from these type of methods is that niche research is a golden opportunity to make money.

Once you discover that the niche is profitable, build the site into an authority. Get to know the niche intimately. Are there any publications for that niche that you can advertise in? Can you form strategic partnerships with any other companies?

Building Equity

The harsh reality is that the best way to make long-term residual income is to make quality, authority sites providing a service or information that people need. With authority comes traffic, and you can monetize that traffic.

You can then branch out from that into mailing lists, paid memberships, paid downloads, affiliate offers, AdSense, CPA, etc.

When you build something of great value, you are building equity into your business. You will eventually be able to sell this business for a multiple of what it's earning.

Money Making eBooks

You will (most likely) not find a magic formula in some ebook that will instantly make you rich overnight. You may make some money up front, but the income stream will dry up.

I see people spamming CPA deals on Facebook, creating fake fan pages, etc. to make a quick buck. Do you want to be doing that for the rest of your life? I sure as hell don't!

Case Study

To give you an example, the last 1-person startup that I launched started generating $600/day of profit 1 month after launch. The site only had 300-400 unique per day at that point! For those of you who are wondering, the site is not in the "how to make money online" niche. And it only scales up in a limited fashion because the customer base is limited. The key is to get repeat customers for life.

Of course, I had to put in a solid 6 months of work into it ahead of launching. I am a programmer, writer, graphics designer all rolled into one and keep overhead as low as possible.

Would I even attempt to write that into an ebook? Sure, I could write a 400 page book on it, but it'd be useless to 99% of people because it's the implementation that counts. General tips, yes. A "method" or "blueprint"? Hell no! My words and advice here have cost you a total of $0.00.

What I want you to do is to take what you learn here about SEO, marketing, and other skills and put your own spin on things.

Hard work and trial and error are what counts. The only way to succeed is to get out there and do it. With the Internet, anything is possible!

You haven't kept up with xfactors updates. He has kept working on his micro niche sites and they all have at least 100 pages now. He recommends to keep adding to your sites and make them into authority sites.

[DireStraits]

Originally Posted by chas08

You haven't kept up with xfactors updates. He has kept working on his micro niche sites and they all have at least 100 pages now. He recommends to keep adding to your sites and make them into authority sites.

Pretty much exactly what I was going to say.

So many people had/have entirely misunderstood the concept of the micro-niche AdSense approach.

The term "micro" wasn't intended to describe the size of each site, but rather the breadth of the niche subject to which each catered. You have markets, niches, and then - in this case - "micro niches", which was just a term used to highlight the fact that we wanted to drill down and narrow our focus even more than the average person digging for a niche.

The idea was that with such a tightly focused site, it would be faster and easier to establish great SEO authority/relevance and begin dominating the search results for all things related to that little niche.

It's a model that can and does still work well today, if approached properly, but not for those who imagine the whole thing's about slapping up a zillion sites deliberately limited in size to 10 pages of badly spun/rewritten, shallow, largely irrelevant content.

It's typically just a matter of time before Google's webspam team conducts a manual review of a site, and if their judgement is that your site falls into the category of "worthless junk", chances are good that you'll be discarded (deindexed) accordingly. Likewise, if they believe that your site is of such low value as to be delivering an inflated number of AdSense clicks because users simply can't find or do anything useful on your own site, your AdSense acount is at risk of closure for posing "significant risk to [their] AdWords publishers" (or something along those lines). In some cases you might be dealt a blow with both fists.

So the moral of the story, really, is to publish content of a good standard and avoid employing every SEO and AdSense optimisation tactic/shortcut in the book to milk your site (and Google) for all it's worth at the expense of your visitors' user-experience. And this applies equally regardless of whether you're building a site with a broad or narrow subject focus.

[TryBPO]

Congratulations, OP. A surprising amount of negativity in your thread. I think DireStraits had it absolutely correct. (How DO you find the time to write posts like that here? hehe)

We were inspired by the XFactor thread and information back in December. Much like you, I put my head down and hammered out some sites (although not strictly following his course or anything) I made some mistakes in the beginning that cost me a bit, but I learned and moved on. We made over 10K in July from AdSense and website sales combined, continuing to follow our process. We're a little ahead of you and just wanted to let you know it's definitely possible to continue to earn money with targeted niche sites. OP, let me know if you have any questions or suggestions and we'd be happy to share with you. We'd much rather work with and collaborate with doers. :-)

[adamv]

Originally Posted by chas08

You haven't kept up with xfactors updates. He has kept working on his micro niche sites and they all have at least 100 pages now. He recommends to keep adding to your sites and make them into authority sites.

You are responding to a thread that is over a year old. How do you know he hasn't kept up with X-factor updates. Maybe he has and he just didn't want to come back in to an ancient thread.

[freddylan]

Great result, 60 $ a day is still a lot of money ! With just saving one dollar a day for 40 years you can retired millionaire ! keep on doing.

[freddylan]

hi Misterkailo

i just read your post and i just realize now that it was 1 year old. I ve got as well a bunch of 100 site using jhon Xfactor guideline. after a few beginner mistake i start to get around 5 to 10 $ a day. My web page are just a few month old. Are you still doing this project and where are you now ? it will be interesting to share some info as we are aiming the same objective ?

thank a lot

hope to hear from you soon

Freddy