Automatic forum posting for backlinks?

[FlashDriveDT]

Can you guys and gals recommend a good automatic forum posting software? I want to post to forums for backlinking reasons and just discovered that there are automatic scripts that can find posts or content from other websites and match it with the forum you want to post to. I actually came across this when I noticed that one of the providers I was outsourcing had very poor english in my communications with him but excellent english in the posts he was doing for me. LOL Plus I noticed that the post content was already indexed in google. Of course if I can figure out what software he's using I dont need to hire him and do this myself!

So what Im looking for is a programm that can intelligently find matching content, not for creating new threads but for actually making replies in already existing threads. Please let me know which software you are using and can recommend. It doesnt matter so much whether its free or costs a lot of money, main thing is that it works great. However, I am on a budget (and dont want to waste it).

Last but not least, does anyone know how Google actually treats this kind of stuff? I mean Im sure Google is smart enough to recognize a pattern where new posts are popping up that are already on other forums (sites) and that are always associated with backlinks to a specific site. So of course I wouldnt want to take a fall from employing this type of method when actually I want to achieve higher rankings.

I know the ethics here are very borderline, but Im so frustrated of having posted and posted over a year on various forums and sites, also with outsourcing, making everything as genuine as possible, and in the end a lot still ends up being deleted by the admins and thus making ranking higher and consistently in Google rather difficult. There's so many keywords I can still rank for but I just dont know where to get the time to accomplish that. So hopefully a good automated posting software will be a great help and relief. Thanks for any input!

[paulgl]

I think you should go to plan B.

Join a couple of forums, in your niche and out, then become an
active member.

What you are doing is kind of a pointless endeavor.

Paul

[dvduval]

Any kind of automatic posting of links is going to have very limited results, and likely negative results long term.

[Myheavens]

It will not help you alot! Short term benefit may be! Try to build manual links, it will stay a long term and also help you to rank in SE's for a long term....

[CliveG]

There is no way that many of us are going to answer this as we are too busy deleting the results of such software use from our blogs. Please don't do it. It is much more effective to do your blog commenting properly.

CliveG

[Fraggler]

You just have to look at the bots that post on this forum to know that this type of behaviour is easily detected and it will do nothing but harm the reputation of your site you are trying to promote.

You are pretty much asking how to sh** in your own nest...

[connorbringas]

Think about it for a second. If your getting a bot to post on various threads with relevant keywords then you are posting on threads that are long gone..old threads..pretty sure thats easy to detect..

[cbpayne]

Originally Posted by FlashDriveDT

Can you guys and gals recommend a good automatic forum posting software? t!

So you one of the low life bottom dwellers that want to go around ruining good forum threads with drivel and keep forums admins busy deleting the nonsense. I am sure I would get banned from Warrior Forum if I was to really state what I think of you ...

[howinfo]

As someone who is running a forum site I would be very sceptical getting any posts from such a software. I don’t think that much good can come from it. Anyway I am hoping that my captcha will not let it through.

[Jefff66]

Hello - new member here, but long time internet marketer.


I run two vBulletin forums and I used to waste a lot of time dealing with spammers, but fortunately there are tools available that will enable you to deal with the majority automatically.

Firstly don't just rely on the captcha verification for new members. Use some kind of question and answer system, and make the question something people interested in the forum topic would know, but maybe other people wouldn't.

Check new members against databases of known spammers (there's a vBulletin add-on that does this). It checks email addresses and IP addresses against a spammer database and automatically stops them from registering. So far this month this system has prevented over 700 automatic registrations to my forums.

A few will get past these first two things, so finally I use an add-on that doesn't allow people to include links in their posts until they've made at least 10 posts. If they try to post a link they'll get an error message. So anyone automating the process of posting links will never get to post anything.

Occasionally a real human spammer will register but often their motive is obvious. I get an email every time someone registers and often the user name, email address or IP address will ring alarm bells and I can deal with them before they have a chance to post.

Those that do get to post will notice they're not allowed to post a link until they've made 10 posts, so they'll make as many short posts as they can to get to the number required. Doing this makes it obvious to the forum moderators that it's a spammer and they will be banned without having a chance to post a link.



Instead of trying to do things the easy way (and causing problems for other people when you do it), create content that people will genuinely want to link to. It might take more work but the benefits will outlast any short term boost you get from spamming.

[Groovystar]

Not again...

I have my banhammer ready at my forum, which is a roleplaying site for kids. I've had to scrape up p0rn spam posted onto it by bots that clearly didn't care they were showing sexual material to 9 year olds. When it isn't adult related, at the least, it's a time waster and annoyance.

Stay away, please, unless you intend to actually become a productive member of a forum, in which you'll get many more permanent backlinks by signatured that way anyway. On my forum they don't last an hour.

sorry to be so vehement about this, but it REALLY bothers me how I have to make my legitimate members jump through hoops and CAPTCHA crap just because people can't stop spamming.

[CliveG]

Originally Posted by Jefff66

Hello - new member here, but long time internet marketer.


I run two vBulletin forums and I used to waste a lot of time dealing with spammers, but fortunately there are tools available that will enable you to deal with the majority automatically.

Firstly don't just rely on the captcha verification for new members. Use some kind of question and answer system, and make the question something people interested in the forum topic would know, but maybe other people wouldn't.

Check new members against databases of known spammers (there's a vBulletin add-on that does this). It checks email addresses and IP addresses against a spammer database and automatically stops them from registering. So far this month this system has prevented over 700 automatic registrations to my forums.

A few will get past these first two things, so finally I use an add-on that doesn't allow people to include links in their posts until they've made at least 10 posts. If they try to post a link they'll get an error message. So anyone automating the process of posting links will never get to post anything.

Occasionally a real human spammer will register but often their motive is obvious. I get an email every time someone registers and often the user name, email address or IP address will ring alarm bells and I can deal with them before they have a chance to post.

Those that do get to post will notice they're not allowed to post a link until they've made 10 posts, so they'll make as many short posts as they can to get to the number required. Doing this makes it obvious to the forum moderators that it's a spammer and they will be banned without having a chance to post a link.



Instead of trying to do things the easy way (and causing problems for other people when you do it), create content that people will genuinely want to link to. It might take more work but the benefits will outlast any short term boost you get from spamming.

Welcome Jefff66,

Good first post. WordPress has plugins that do similar things. I started out with Captchas but moved to link based rejection and manual moderation. Once you have rejected all comments with more than 1 or 2 links moderation is quite managable and gives you the opportunity to respond too.

Clive

[FlashDriveDT]

Originally Posted by CliveG

There is no way that many of us are going to answer this as we are too busy deleting the results of such software use from our blogs. Please don't do it. It is much more effective to do your blog commenting properly.
CliveG

I know what you're talking about as I get these comments on my own blog all the time too (hooray for askismet). But thats not what Im talking about. Apparently there is software out there that can pull up very content-rich and on topic comments from the web that will fit the forum thread you are looking to post in. You would still have to insert this manually so its not a bot or anything. I guess its more like a suggestion box. Forum registrations would still be manual too

Originally Posted by Fraggler

You just have to look at the bots that post on this forum to know that this type of behaviour is easily detected and it will do nothing but harm the reputation of your site you are trying to promote.

You are pretty much asking how to sh** in your own nest...

See my reply above. I'm not talking a bot here. There still would be manual labor involved.

Originally Posted by connorbringas

Think about it for a second. If your getting a bot to post on various threads with relevant keywords then you are posting on threads that are long gone..old threads..pretty sure thats easy to detect..

I dont understand where you guys are getting this idea about a bot. Old threads? No. Let me explain again that this provider that Im outsourcing has found a way to post comments on recent threads that are just a duplicate from a comment of another website, but right on subject. I want to know how he does this! (I doubt he's manually searching through google but that may be a possibility. Its just he does it way too fast for that IMO.)

Originally Posted by cbpayne

So you one of the low life bottom dwellers that want to go around ruining good forum threads with drivel and keep forums admins busy deleting the nonsense. I am sure I would get banned from Warrior Forum if I was to really state what I think of you ...

Again, im not talking about non-human, low quality comments. But there does seem to be an automated process involved.

Originally Posted by howinfo

As someone who is running a forum site I would be very sceptical getting any posts from such a software. I don’t think that much good can come from it. Anyway I am hoping that my captcha will not let it through.

Actually, some of these forum posting programs are advertised for forum admins. See here:

Introduction to Automated Forum Posting
PHP-Nuke - Instant Community Content - Automatic Forum Posting
Instadigi - Instant Forum Post Generator - Automatic Forum Posting

Note that we're not talking bots here. Presumably these programs could be used not just for forum owners but any member. So that could be quite beneficial for someone whos doing a forum backlink campaign. I figured you guys would know about this and could recommend a good (free) program. And the question remains if this was done continuously if Google wouldnt notice since in essence all you do would be syndicating duplicate content. On the other hand, if one does it smart, one could mix the suggested comment with a bit of own flavor aka rewrite. It would still make life a lot easier, especially on forums where you dont have much of a clue what they're talking about!

So hopefully I've cleared up some of the misunderstandings here. I guess I could ask my outsourcee what software he is using but I doubt he'll tell me since he will know full well I probably wont need him anymore then.

[thebitbotdotcom]

It doesn't work. The mods will identify you and blacklist you quickly.

[cbpayne]

I have just started work today. On my network of forums, there were 38 new members overnight. I have banned 24 of them. All were IM'ers ... whoops..., sorry... I mean spammers.

The automated process prevented registrations by over 500 bots .....

[MAtkins]

Kok Choon recently launched a new profile software package that boasts as high as 40 simultaneous threads.
I haven't tried it but Kok Choon has a great reputation and I'm sure that software rocks.
Look for him at backlinksforum.com

[Tina Golden]

What you are talking about may not be the bot software that others mentioned but it is copyright infringement when you lift content from other places and post it as your own.

It may fool more boards and bloggers, but it could get you in legal trouble should someone decide to pursue it.

Tina

[cbpayne]

Originally Posted by MAtkins

Kok Choon recently launched a new profile software package that boasts as high as 40 simultaneous threads.
I haven't tried it but Kok Choon has a great reputation and I'm sure that software rocks.
Look for him at backlinksforum.com

lol ... I and a number of forum admins are in discussions about a class action suit against these sorts of software/packages/services etc. They are creating a lot of extra work for forum admins and mods and breach the terms of service agreed to when joining the forum.

[FlashDriveDT]

Well, I actually asked the outsourcee what program he uses and he said he only does google seach manually and then copies and pastes the related text. I dont quite believe him but sure, its possible...I told him not to do 1 to 1 copies anymore and rewrite the texts he finds useful to post on a forum thread.

[jennypitts]

Why would any serious marketer want to use software to post to forums. There will be no guarantee that the posts will even make sense or be related to the thread. I always advise against software, and this is definitely NOT the exception. If you find that posting each day is too tedious then hire someone to do it for you. OH, and not to mention that you are approaching the use of forums the wrong way. You should not rely on forums ONLY for backlinks, they serve much more than just building links.

[JFalcon]

It's called blackhat SEO. Be careful!

[FlashDriveDT]

Originally Posted by jennypitts

Why would any serious marketer want to use software to post to forums. There will be no guarantee that the posts will even make sense or be related to the thread. I always advise against software, and this is definitely NOT the exception. If you find that posting each day is too tedious then hire someone to do it for you.

Well smartypants, if you had read my posts carefully you would have noticed that that's exactly what I had done. I had hired someone and thats how I noticed that there must exist some type of semi-automated forum posting tool. And if you had read carefully you would have noticed that I only got interested in this tool because the posts he made were absolutely on topic and of good quality. Yet they were taken from already existing content on the net.

OH, and not to mention that you are approaching the use of forums the wrong way. You should not rely on forums ONLY for backlinks, they serve much more than just building links.

Im amazed how you would know what my entire backlink campaign entails. Just for your information - before you skip to read parts of a thread again and jump to conclusions -, I also do backlinking via profiles, blog commenting, directories etc. And I always make it a point to contribute to the sites, not just leave like a spammer in the night. Not that I have to justify myself towards you, mind you.

Originally Posted by JFalcon

It's called BlueFart SEO. Be careful!

At last an actual reply to my post. I will check this out later. I already had gotten a PM from someone claiming the software I was talking about was xrumer. All this stuff seems pretty black hat to me though. I do not want automatic bot registrations and posting, no matter how good it is, I want a suggestion tool that can help you manually make posts to a forum. I guess good ole google search will have to do for those forums/threads with subject matter that is quite unfamiliar.

[cutequotes]

seonuke. costs money but very effective and also very spammy.

the better way is to pick 5 forums on your topic and post there.

[arnold55]

quick question on the subject..
i have noticed one of my local blogs have been receiving a lot of comments. after reading the above it is probably from an auto poster.

heres the question, can these comment links and traffic ad value or ranking?
it is traffic and it is from a search.

it may not be all bad (or is it)


thanx
arnod55

[jusin]

According to me, automatic forum posting is not worth and it considered as a spam. It is always better, to contribute well in forums by manually submitting replies with some information or update which is beneficial for the other fellow posters.

Also, it helps in getting backlinks too.

[trimmy]

XRumer may be what you are looking for. I use automatic forum posting, but its targeted within my niche. There are also a couple of free ones out there. I didn't feel like shelling out the money for XRumer, so I just wrote my own tools.

[cpace32]

I would prefer manual posting, or outsourcing it. You would be surprised how cheap it can be to outsource such a project to a 3rd world country.

[cashtech29]

Are you saying that mass forum posting/registration is really bad?

I just paid $175.00 for 500 forum signature posts...
They don't scrape content, it simply registers me and makes a small snipit, with my site url in the signature box.
I did this for backlinking purposes, as they said it would really help my page rank, but now I wonder if I did the right thing...

Did I do the wrong thing?

[greatar4]

Originally Posted by Jefff66

Instead of trying to do things the easy way (and causing problems for other people when you do it), create content that people will genuinely want to link to. It might take more work but the benefits will outlast any short term boost you get from spamming.

I completely agree with you on this. Forum is a place people come to learn things they didn't know or to search solution for problem they could not solve. When someone join a forum that person must be a helpful member and post things that are relevant and add value to the forum.

[App Developers]

Join the forums and become active. Odds are you will actually learn a few things while you are there.

[SPC]

Seems like this thread is full of Forum Admins. Obviously they would be against your idea of automating forum posts. Maybe you should try another thread to see if you could get the better responses needed

[rushastha]

i have noticed one of my local blogs have been receiving a lot of comments and automatic forum posting is not worth and it considered as a spam.I would prefer manual posting, or outsourcing it...

[rushastha]

There will be no guarantee that the posts will even make sense or be related to the thread. If your getting a bot to post on various threads with relevant keywords then you are posting on threads that are long gone.

[rushastha]

As someone who is running a forum site I would be very sceptical getting any posts from such a software.Do It Yourself Internet Marketing For Small Local Business

[rushastha]

Automatic forum posting is not worth and it considered as a spam.The better way is to pick 5 forums on your topic and post there.

[rushastha]

Why would any serious marketer want to use software to post to forums. I actually asked the outsourcee what program he uses and he said he only does google seach manually and then copies and pastes the related text.

[rushastha]

They are creating a lot of extra work for forum admins and mods and breach the terms of service agreed to when joining the forum.

[rushastha]

There is software out there that can pull up very content-rich and on topic comments from the web that will fit the forum thread you are looking to post in.It really works....

[rushastha]

you would be surprised how cheap it can be to outsource such a project to a 3rd world country.

[rushastha]

I guess good ole google search will have to do for those forums/threads with subject matter that is quite unfamiliar.

[rushastha]

I already had gotten a PM from someone claiming the software I was talking about was xrumer.

[rushastha]

I had hired someone and thats how I noticed that there must exist some type of semi-automated forum posting tool.

[rushastha]

I do not want automatic bot registrations and posting, no matter how good it is, I want a suggestion tool that can help you manually make posts to a forum.

[rushastha]

Why would any serious marketer want to use software to post to forums....

[Stuart william]

dont thinks its a good idea to post forums through automated software, its better if you do it manually. you cant get good result by automated software, if you want to get top result then do it manually.

[rushastha]

There's so many keywords I can still rank for but I just dont know where to get the time to accomplish that.

[SPC]

Originally Posted by rushastha

Why would any serious marketer want to use software to post to forums....

Do you have trouble posting all your ideas in one post or do you have to post thirty?

[rushastha]

You should not rely on forums ONLY for backlinks, they serve much more than just building links.
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[dagaul101]

Not really a good idea to automate posts on forums, as it devalues it, and chances are the links won't last long, as the admins can see you are not contributing at all to the conversation, and remove your post

[gforex]

I cannot recommend any automate post. It might never be helpful after all. Try spend a 1 hour a day and do your links manually. It is not hard once done frequently.