Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer

scott g · 01-13-2011, 07:14 PM

I didn't read all the posts on page ONE. So if I repeat something... Deal with it.

Profile links suck. In my opinion. Scrapebox eats Xrumer. In my opinion. Why would you waste money on a monthly service you could do yourself?! Good question. The overwhelming popularity and influx in forum profile backlinks is ridiculous. From my experience few stick or are even indexed, and majority are deleted relatively quickly.

Don't worry about PR or Dofollow/Nofollow. Why don't you just use Scrapebox to reverse engineer all your competing sites backlinks and go out and find yourself a couple thousand AutoApprove blogs to leave comments/backlinks on?!

I bought ONE of Angela's packets and then canceled my subscription. It's a joke, really, the step-by-step instructions depicting how to create the forum profile backlinks. Majority of the time you can't even view a forum profile unless you're logged into that forum...

Just my OPINIONS.

CHEERS!

ExploringInfinity · 01-13-2011, 07:38 PM

This thread has been a good read so far. I've been considering doing a dripfeedblast on a new site I'm developing, but after reading this I'm not sure if it's worth it.

I was reverse engineering the backlinks of some of my competition today and found a lot of good places to get links from on my own, I'm not sure a drip feed blast would be worth anything, really.. I was going to blast my web2.0 sites with it but now I'm thinking of painting my hat just a tid-bit lighter

mozesteven · 01-13-2011, 10:24 PM

I have never get good rank with xRumer. I vote Paul & Angela packet ...

sunnygc · 01-21-2011, 04:36 AM

This is truly a tricky thing to get ones head around. I have one site that ranks for over 1200 keywords a month (according to google analytics) and appears on the front page for some of the most competitive keywords (stock market niche) and I've never bought 1 backlink pack or even attempted to do anything of the sort.

I've been reading up on xrumer and scrapebox and I'm getting more and more confused. It seems the number 1 'trick' is to provide incredible content on your site as your first option. 2nd option is to then create solid content on the top article directories that link deeply to your main pages plus of course your home page.

Is all this 'massive backlink' idea over rated or should I continue trying to find a path among the many 'secret's and 'lies' currently being peddled out there?

scott g · 01-21-2011, 09:14 AM

There's more to life than Forum Profile links that half the time don't get indexed, don't stick, and get deleted. Just make sure you can view your Profile page when you LOG OUT!

theleathercollection · 01-21-2011, 10:28 AM

I use Paul's links and like them so far. I've used Angela's in the past and have seen results, a couple of her links made it to my "linked to" data in webmaster tools. And registering for a Forum and adding 2-3 links to a signature or bio is not spam. Do not get it twisted bruh! It's only spam when you post 5-10 times a day

designerjack · 01-21-2011, 11:29 AM

I would rather outsource the links vs xrumer because not a lot of people know this but the hype of xrumer is dieing out because no one is making long-term progress.

I have outsourced my backlinks package, that I've built, and it cost me much less for greater results than if i was to automate with xrumer... To me... that's the BEST ROI... Spend less and make more... If someone offers that to you, take the deal!

lotre · 01-21-2011, 12:14 PM

cbpayne

change the record man, ffs. No offence but do you just come here to rant about not spamming on forums- i dont do what i consider to be spamming but save your health, dont be on here if it stresses you out so much

IncSEO · 01-21-2011, 02:36 PM

I guess it depends on your overall SEO goals. Angela backlinks are good and you can do it manually or outsource it to someone else. With Xrumer you can get thousands of backlinks at one blast but you need to verify whether the links are valid. Some of the links may be deleted since moderators or forum owners are able to detect automated profile creation and link submission.

When it comes to link building, the key here is to do it naturally and consistently, it doesn't matter how long does it take just make sure they are natural to the eyes of Google. There is not point of having so much of links that are not relevant to your website. It may just hurt your ranking though.

I hope this helps.

JSProjects · 01-21-2011, 02:44 PM

Xrumer blast, without question. Profile backlinks are pretty weak, so doing 10-15 by hand really isn't worth it. Since profile backlinks are near worthless it's a matter of QUANTITY over quality.

This is just my opinion from years of experience. I'm sure others will disagree.

Edit: To clarify, my preference is neither. But if you had to absolutely choose, then the Xrumer blast would be more beneficial. But if your goal is to create thousands of potentially spammy backlinks then just pick up Scrapebox for $57 and reverse engineer your competitors. After a few hours you'll have hundreds, possibly thousands, of auto approve blog posts that you can blast your comments onto.

PS: I do NOT personally use Scrapebox in this way. I use it for harvesting internal links and checking PR of dofollow blogs that I come across. Then I manually comment on high PR posts, actually providing value.

industrial · 01-25-2011, 09:07 AM

Naturally, it depends on what is working for you and to keep the mindset that you really don't care what is working or not working for others. Domains, websites, products, industries, markets, niches, USP's, landing pages, upsells, etc will work differently for everyone so the only way to tell what works for you is to test, test, TEST. Don't expect ANYONE in their right mind to spill the whole beans in a public forum. Personally, I neither had success with Xrumer blasts, scrapebox or Angela & Paul's lists. All of which provided temporary results for my particular niche, approach and market. IMO Google is well on to lists like Angela & Paul. Seriously, what are the odds of say 500 sites having the same backlinks from hundreds of forums. Even if you mix up your links, the odds of so many sites having backlinks on the same hundreds of forums is a dead giveaway the links are NOT natural. As for Xrumer, that leaves as many footprints as stepping in B.S.!

Jryan774 · 01-25-2011, 09:28 AM

This thread is brilliant, I love the Forum/Troll owner with his inaccurate information. I bet he has a tattoo of the G in a superman emblem!

faceblogger · 01-25-2011, 09:55 AM

To answer simply:

Both are good. But you don't need xrumer unless you have so many websites.

From my experience, the SERP boost of 5000 xrumer blast(I mean the blast & not the number of links) is roughly equal to a 100 Anjela, paul links. Price wise also both cost same ($15 - $20) if you outsource.

Just decide which one suits you (xrumer or Anjela Paul).

samd123 · 01-26-2011, 05:21 PM

excellent thread, thanks everyone!

Question: - is the discussion focussing on angelas links and xrumer because looking at getting .edu type or PR7,PR* /authority links are out of the price range for people in this discussion?

Im told that one PR8 link may be worth up to 1000 profile links (which are all PR0 by their nature). And as for the .edu type links ...

Why are these not being discussed here? They can be bought too (even on fiverr.com I see) - so what would be the best value of all?

All the best

Sam

PS The discussion about spamming on profile pages was hysterical :-)

01-13-2011, 07:14 PM	#51
scott g pay them no mind War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: StL Posts: 1,133 Thanks: 207 Thanked 353 Times in 229 Posts Social Networking	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer I didn't read all the posts on page ONE. So if I repeat something... Deal with it. Profile links suck. In my opinion. Scrapebox eats Xrumer. In my opinion. Why would you waste money on a monthly service you could do yourself?! Good question. The overwhelming popularity and influx in forum profile backlinks is ridiculous. From my experience few stick or are even indexed, and majority are deleted relatively quickly. Don't worry about PR or Dofollow/Nofollow. Why don't you just use Scrapebox to reverse engineer all your competing sites backlinks and go out and find yourself a couple thousand AutoApprove blogs to leave comments/backlinks on?! I bought ONE of Angela's packets and then canceled my subscription. It's a joke, really, the step-by-step instructions depicting how to create the forum profile backlinks. Majority of the time you can't even view a forum profile unless you're logged into that forum... Just my OPINIONS. CHEERS!
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01-13-2011, 07:38 PM	#52
ExploringInfinity I Spank Google War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SK, Canada Posts: 501 Thanks: 33 Thanked 84 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer This thread has been a good read so far. I've been considering doing a dripfeedblast on a new site I'm developing, but after reading this I'm not sure if it's worth it. I was reverse engineering the backlinks of some of my competition today and found a lot of good places to get links from on my own, I'm not sure a drip feed blast would be worth anything, really.. I was going to blast my web2.0 sites with it but now I'm thinking of painting my hat just a tid-bit lighter
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01-13-2011, 10:24 PM	#53
mozesteven HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Flowers Land Posts: 349 Thanks: 22 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer I have never get good rank with xRumer. I vote Paul & Angela packet ...

01-21-2011, 04:36 AM	#54
sunnygc Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 36 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer This is truly a tricky thing to get ones head around. I have one site that ranks for over 1200 keywords a month (according to google analytics) and appears on the front page for some of the most competitive keywords (stock market niche) and I've never bought 1 backlink pack or even attempted to do anything of the sort. I've been reading up on xrumer and scrapebox and I'm getting more and more confused. It seems the number 1 'trick' is to provide incredible content on your site as your first option. 2nd option is to then create solid content on the top article directories that link deeply to your main pages plus of course your home page. Is all this 'massive backlink' idea over rated or should I continue trying to find a path among the many 'secret's and 'lies' currently being peddled out there?

01-21-2011, 09:14 AM	#55
scott g pay them no mind War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: StL Posts: 1,133 Thanks: 207 Thanked 353 Times in 229 Posts Social Networking	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer There's more to life than Forum Profile links that half the time don't get indexed, don't stick, and get deleted. Just make sure you can view your Profile page when you LOG OUT!
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01-21-2011, 10:28 AM	#56
theleathercollection HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer I use Paul's links and like them so far. I've used Angela's in the past and have seen results, a couple of her links made it to my "linked to" data in webmaster tools. And registering for a Forum and adding 2-3 links to a signature or bio is not spam. Do not get it twisted bruh! It's only spam when you post 5-10 times a day
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01-21-2011, 11:29 AM	#57
designerjack HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 397 Thanks: 149 Thanked 137 Times in 47 Posts	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer I would rather outsource the links vs xrumer because not a lot of people know this but the hype of xrumer is dieing out because no one is making long-term progress. I have outsourced my backlinks package, that I've built, and it cost me much less for greater results than if i was to automate with xrumer... To me... that's the BEST ROI... Spend less and make more... If someone offers that to you, take the deal!

01-21-2011, 12:14 PM	#58
lotre Mind Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 120 Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer cbpayne change the record man, ffs. No offence but do you just come here to rant about not spamming on forums- i dont do what i consider to be spamming but save your health, dont be on here if it stresses you out so much

01-21-2011, 02:36 PM	#59
IncSEO Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer I guess it depends on your overall SEO goals. Angela backlinks are good and you can do it manually or outsource it to someone else. With Xrumer you can get thousands of backlinks at one blast but you need to verify whether the links are valid. Some of the links may be deleted since moderators or forum owners are able to detect automated profile creation and link submission. When it comes to link building, the key here is to do it naturally and consistently, it doesn't matter how long does it take just make sure they are natural to the eyes of Google. There is not point of having so much of links that are not relevant to your website. It may just hurt your ranking though. I hope this helps.
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01-21-2011, 02:44 PM	#60
JSProjects Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,118 Thanks: 57 Thanked 201 Times in 177 Posts Contact Info	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer Xrumer blast, without question. Profile backlinks are pretty weak, so doing 10-15 by hand really isn't worth it. Since profile backlinks are near worthless it's a matter of QUANTITY over quality. This is just my opinion from years of experience. I'm sure others will disagree. Edit: To clarify, my preference is neither. But if you had to absolutely choose, then the Xrumer blast would be more beneficial. But if your goal is to create thousands of potentially spammy backlinks then just pick up Scrapebox for $57 and reverse engineer your competitors. After a few hours you'll have hundreds, possibly thousands, of auto approve blog posts that you can blast your comments onto. PS: I do NOT personally use Scrapebox in this way. I use it for harvesting internal links and checking PR of dofollow blogs that I come across. Then I manually comment on high PR posts, actually providing value.

01-25-2011, 09:07 AM	#61
industrial Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 35 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer Naturally, it depends on what is working for you and to keep the mindset that you really don't care what is working or not working for others. Domains, websites, products, industries, markets, niches, USP's, landing pages, upsells, etc will work differently for everyone so the only way to tell what works for you is to test, test, TEST. Don't expect ANYONE in their right mind to spill the whole beans in a public forum. Personally, I neither had success with Xrumer blasts, scrapebox or Angela & Paul's lists. All of which provided temporary results for my particular niche, approach and market. IMO Google is well on to lists like Angela & Paul. Seriously, what are the odds of say 500 sites having the same backlinks from hundreds of forums. Even if you mix up your links, the odds of so many sites having backlinks on the same hundreds of forums is a dead giveaway the links are NOT natural. As for Xrumer, that leaves as many footprints as stepping in B.S.!

01-25-2011, 09:28 AM	#62
Jryan774 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: UK Posts: 53 Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer This thread is brilliant, I love the Forum/Troll owner with his inaccurate information. I bet he has a tattoo of the G in a superman emblem!

01-25-2011, 09:55 AM	#63
faceblogger Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 66 Thanked 147 Times in 106 Posts	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer To answer simply: Both are good. But you don't need xrumer unless you have so many websites. From my experience, the SERP boost of 5000 xrumer blast(I mean the blast & not the number of links) is roughly equal to a 100 Anjela, paul links. Price wise also both cost same ($15 - $20) if you outsource. Just decide which one suits you (xrumer or Anjela Paul).
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01-26-2011, 05:21 PM	#64
samd123 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 162 Thanks: 43 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Angela/Paul's Backlinks versus Xrumer excellent thread, thanks everyone! Question: - is the discussion focussing on angelas links and xrumer because looking at getting .edu type or PR7,PR* /authority links are out of the price range for people in this discussion? Im told that one PR8 link may be worth up to 1000 profile links (which are all PR0 by their nature). And as for the .edu type links ... Why are these not being discussed here? They can be bought too (even on fiverr.com I see) - so what would be the best value of all? All the best Sam PS The discussion about spamming on profile pages was hysterical :-)