Is link juice passed when a url is NOT indexed?

Michael Nguyen · 08-25-2010, 06:06 PM

Is link juice passed when a url is NOT indexed even though you KNOW it has been crawled, ie pinged and digged, placed on high traffic websites etc

What do you think?

I need to refine my seo process so I'm not wasting time. What do you think?

Best regards
Michael

inter123 · 08-25-2010, 06:41 PM

How do you know it has definately been crawled even though its on high traffic site like digg? I would have thought it has be indexed for link juice to be passed.

There are many tools available to get backlinks indexed, unless they are selling a service that is not needed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Nguyen

Is link juice passed when a url is NOT indexed even though you KNOW it has been crawled, ie pinged and digged

What do you think?

I need to refine my seo process so I'm not wasting time. What do you think?

Best regards
Michael

Peter Gregory · 08-25-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Nguyen

Is link juice passed when a url is NOT indexed even though you KNOW it has been crawled, ie pinged and digged

What do you think?

I need to refine my seo process so I'm not wasting time. What do you think?

Best regards
Michael

Just because it has been pinged or dugg does not mean it has been crawled. Yes that gives you a higher chance that it will crawl sooner, but it is not a guarantee.

Furthermore for any link to pass juice it must have something from the page to pass. If it is not indexed it most certainly does not have any juice.

Michael Nguyen · 08-25-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by inter123

How do you know it has definately been crawled even though its on high traffic site like digg? I would have thought it has be indexed for link juice to be passed.

There are many tools available to get backlinks indexed, unless they are selling a service that is not needed.

I know because this is how I get fresh out of the box domains indexed, I Digg, Mixx, Reddit my urls, so I know Google has crawled those sites and then indexes my domain.

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Originally Posted by Peter Gregory

Just because it has been pinged or dugg does not mean it has been crawled. Yes that gives you a higher chance that it will crawl sooner, but it is not a guarantee.

As above

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Originally Posted by Peter Gregory

Furthermore for any link to pass juice it must have something from the page to pass. If it is not indexed it most certainly does not have any juice.

Well this would be a profile link URL or a web2.0 property with backlink to money site.

Your last statement as well inter123:
How do you know for sure, is this based on experience? Logic says that if it's not indexed then it won't pass just to the backlinks but no where does it say that just because your links havent been indexed doesn't mean juice hasn't been passed (provided that Google bots have cralwed).

Does anyone have first hand experience?

Best regards
Michael

christineconte · 08-25-2010, 09:51 PM

Hey Michael - how long after posting on the high index sites do you know that it has definitely been crawled? and how soon after that do you presume it to be indexed?

dhex · 08-25-2010, 10:22 PM

How can you see light if you dont connect the bulb?

I dont think anybody can tell you this for sure except a Google engineer who has internal access to index servers. What you are asking is similar to trying to find out internal PR of a web, which in my opinion is not possible by any means.

4morereferrals · 08-26-2010, 01:40 AM

Why would google count a link on a page that it didnt feel was important enough to even put in their index? especially since the threshold to get a page/url/piece of content indexed seems to be so low?

No guarantees, but dont you want to give your links the "highest probability" to be counted? I did, and hence why I created my plugin to make sure.

eimroda · 08-26-2010, 01:53 AM

I think there is no problem if the juice isn't passed as it is not yet indexed. Just continue creating back links and once it will be indexed, all juices from the previous links will be passed to the site. Besides, a site that is not in the index won't get a PR.

Natlex · 08-26-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Why would google count a link on a page that it didnt feel was important enough to even put in their index? especially since the threshold to get a page/url/piece of content indexed seems to be so low?

No guarantees, but dont you want to give your links the "highest probability" to be counted? I did, and hence why I created my plugin to make sure.

Pretty much, if google doesn't even feel like indexing the page why would the backlink have any value?

Even if it had any value it would be extremely small...

08-25-2010, 06:06 PM	#1
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dhex Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 66 Thanks: 19 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Is link juice passed when a url is NOT indexed? How can you see light if you dont connect the bulb? I dont think anybody can tell you this for sure except a Google engineer who has internal access to index servers. What you are asking is similar to trying to find out internal PR of a web, which in my opinion is not possible by any means.

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08-26-2010, 01:53 AM	#8
eimroda Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Is link juice passed when a url is NOT indexed? I think there is no problem if the juice isn't passed as it is not yet indexed. Just continue creating back links and once it will be indexed, all juices from the previous links will be passed to the site. Besides, a site that is not in the index won't get a PR.
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