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Old 08-27-2010, 12:19 AM   #1
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Arrow Is Google going to BAN the allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor... searches?

I LOVE GOOGLE but ... I'm shocked and I can't believe nor understand what google is doing now!

Are "allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor" operators banned?

The problem: Google seem to ban usage of it's search operators like allintitle, allinanchor ... Just a few simple searches with them and you get the "We're Sorry page ... your computer or network may be sending automated queries". Did google ran out of computing power? I know, I know ... it's a witch hunt.

Now just doing ONE search with allinanchor:"" gives me the sorry page "... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries." Regular searches work as they should.
Sorry doesn't do it! Since when multiple automated queries equals 5-6 manual search using google search operators provided by google itself? Are these operators now banned? They should say so.

No tools, no browser plugins, no automated queries, no spyware on my computer. Just using the advanced search operators in manual searches.

In chrome I get the Sorry Message with no captcha or options. Doing another search with no operators in a new tab will work right away though. In IE I got the sorry page with a captcha but after entering it redirected to a blank page. Again other searches with no operators works.

So how can I do a competition research now? Should I blindly go ahead and run campaigns and launch products? This is unacceptable. Yes, the regular internet user using Google for search is not affected (at least yet).

I wonder what google thinks it's achieving doing that?
This is mostly affecting their paying customers, the businesses that are trying their best to market their products and services on the internet. As it's directed to their employees and consultants, the webmasters, the SEM, SEO and internet marketers professionals.
Yes it is directed and there is no mistake!

This is a BIG mistake on google's side! they'd better realize that before too much damage would be done.
Ggoogle should not ignore that the people who constantly do the hard sale and promote the "internet advertising model" to businesses, are exactly these professionals (webmasters, IM, SEO, SEM). These are the people responsible for a big chunk of google's revenues and it's success (adwords). It's a shame to make it difficult or impossible for them to do their work!

Now fellow warriors, please this and let me know how is it going for you? Try a dozen different searches, multiple google operators together. Do a few searches with the same keyword. Try something like:

allinanchor:"raspberry pie" | allinanchor:"strawberry pie"

maybe add a few more operator to the search:
allintitle:"strawberry pie" allinanchor:"strawberry pie"

I your dare do a few searches quick one after the other.

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I searched for these issue and on google forums and other forums there are plenty of people complaining of similar issues.

Did google get to the point it can't expand it's network power any more and started restricting the use of it's mainline product: "THE SEARCH TOOL"? I know it can't be the case.

Google is helping Bing get a higher market!

Google alienated many professionals, which in response started paying more attention to alternative advertising channels.

People that experimented this issues are saying that they ended up using Bing and Yahoo more. Just because it simply becomes impossible to use google. What google is doing now is more like strangling himself.

Please test and reply with your own experience. Maybe my ISP allocated me an IP that was "compromised". I doubt that and even if so, this would not be an acceptable explanation, this would not be OK. It would only prove that whatever google is doing now is not working well.

Anyway you turn it around whatever is going on now is a big BEWARE SIGNAL for IM, SEM, SEO and business people who goes beyond basic searches and use google operators.

"We're sorry page" ... Is google really sorry? Does Google realize the see of frustrations it raises by allowing their system to behave this weird?

Yahoo and Bing are joining their forces together. Bing did very well since it launched. Nothing last forever unfortunately ... not even the good attitude of google which made google what it is today.

I love Google and their innovative spirit. I almost jump off the chair when I discover new smart and so useful things they come up with. Hope that one day we'll see this witch hunt to an end.

I'm not alone: more people are experimenting the same issues:
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Old 08-27-2010, 12:52 AM   #2
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Default Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

Google has banned you temporarily. I have checked with no problem. If you really want it, switch to some other ip. there are many free as well as paid solutions available.

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Old 08-27-2010, 01:03 AM   #3
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Default Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

Banned me to use the advanced operators ... for under 5 queries? Now that's still not acceptable, is that? How much do you have to wait before you press the search button again? Did I do a couple of searches to fast one after the other? But that's still not acceptable.
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:46 AM   #4
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Default Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

Try this,

intitle:"strawberry pie" inanchor:"strawberry pie" or try with zend2.com

Is this working now?

yes below is giving me did not match any documents

allintitle:"strawberry pie" allinanchor:"strawberry pie"

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Default Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

They didn't ban you because of the 5 queries, I'm very sure about that. Do you really have no browser plugins like SEOQuake?
If not you probably got a virus (or another programm that starts queries) or something that's attacking google.

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Old 08-27-2010, 04:51 AM   #6
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Lightbulb Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

Yeah Temporary bans can happen for a number of reasons, including keyword research tools. But they definitely didn't ban operators

I use Keyword Research Tool: Google Operaors to double check all of my research or for SEO purposes. intitle and inanchor can help you determine problems with your backlinking strategy

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Default Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

Or try through an anonymous proxy like pagewash or proxify...they may have blocked your ip address temporarily.

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Old 08-27-2010, 08:51 AM   #8
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Default Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

The advanced operators tend to be used by programs to scrape google for content. They are quick to block your queries if you are using them.
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Default Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

technically there are plenty of reasons for google to becareful of such queries. every one knows that complex queries require a lot more processing especially in a database with trillions of records. You have any idea of how many records google's central database has?
If i was google's man programmer, I was about to do this too. imagine thousands of such complex queries going together and what happens to google's server environment. i hope that gives the answer. You cannot do more than a few such queries on in a day from one IP.

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Old 08-27-2010, 10:11 AM   #10
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Default Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

I believe google recently made their 3rd or 4th acquisition this month when
the bought like.com.

Google is in fine shape. Losing to Bing? Bing is losing to yahoo, actually.

Google does things for themselves and their business. If that irritates you,
forget about them. I lose no sleep when google does anything. In fact, I
wish they would do more things to make searching and results better!

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Old 08-27-2010, 06:14 PM   #11
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Default Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

I did a dozen searches now and it seems to be working. Every time I push the search button I hold my breath hoping not to see that "we're sorry" page. I also deliberately take more time before consecutive searches. What a pain!

Do you guys know if using Google's API would help?
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:44 PM   #12
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Default Re: Does Google hate the allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor... searches?

G only blocks me If I keep running SEOQuake in FF, like doing search after search real fast.

I can run the same manual search, at the same time in Google Chrome Incognito (without any plugins), & all is good.

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Default Re: Does Google hate the allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor... searches?

Thank you all for your feedback. I was hoping to see more response to it.
Now I hope that it won't happen again. I hope that was some kind of a glitch ... will post again if things get crazy again.
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Default Re: Is Google going to BAN the allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor... searches?

Well how do programs like Market Samurai get their competition data from Google?
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This whole situation frustrates me to no end (it shouldn't but it does). I am using firefox mostly, and I didn't wasn't getting any captcha at all just complete denial - this was doing manual allinanchor:"" searches - fully manual.

I switched to safari on the same computer minutes later and it gave me a captcha and I was able to complete my search.
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I also got thing like this when I continuously search Google. Once I got it , I could not perform any search for the whole day.

You are not alone.
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Default Re: Is Google helping Bing get a bigger market share? allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor BANNED?

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Banned me to use the advanced operators ... for under 5 queries? Now that's still not acceptable, is that? How much do you have to wait before you press the search button again? Did I do a couple of searches to fast one after the other? But that's still not acceptable.
I have just had the same problem. I was doing innocent keyword research, and I mean innocent. I was trying to determine about 10 logical major keywords in the titles.

Did I get into a rythm to easily and to quickly when replacing the keywords within the quotes in the allintitle:”keyword in quotes” and then hitting submit? If so is there a recommended time delay?

I do have SEO quake in my firefox browser, but I was using internet explorer at the time and not ff. Is this related and if so how?

I understand hogging the bandwidth, but an "I am sorry page" displayed after 10 allintitle manual searches is ridiculous; and it only increases paranoia within users.

I have also search through Google terms and conditions, and nothing is clear. I understand they do not want an automated system but ...

I am beginning to rank now, can anybody shed some light on the matter.

Gordon.

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Default Re: Is Google going to BAN the allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor... searches?

If you have tools like SEO Quake etc then its best to always try and increase the search time. I know that the defauls is about 500ms, I tend to increase this to 1500-2000, might take a few secnds longer but at least you're not hitting them with queries too fast. I've never had a problem with Google on this front. Oh and also make sure that you only have enabled the parts that you really need. E.g. PR, YSE Links to the page, Linkdomain and maybe age. Everything else I can click to request.

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Default Re: Is Google going to BAN the allintitle, allinurl, allinanchor... searches?

Thanks Zaheer good advice.

Google let me back in after 30 minutes.

I decided to slow down the search to about 1 per minute, but met the sorry page after 7 searches.

This is impossible trying to do some serious work. A captcha code is a pain, but at least it would stop us thinking we were criminals.

Is there any way to contact somebody from google, and would they listen?

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Thanks Zaheer good advice.

Google let me back in after 30 minutes.

I decided to slow down the search to about 1 per minute, but met the sorry page after 7 searches.

This is impossible trying to do some serious work. A captcha code is a pain, but at least it would stop us thinking we were criminals.

Is there any way to contact somebody from google, and would they listen?
You don't have to wait 30min. for Google to let you keep searching.

What I do is:

1) Unplug DSL modem from power source
2) Clear the PC Internet History with CCleaner (free)
3) Press the reset button on the back of the modem (5sec.)
4) Plug in the modem & start searching again

Sounds like a lot but it only takes maybe 1 min. to be searching again.
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Thanks Yukon,

I like it, and will do so.

But seriously I am really getting fed up with Google. There are so ackward to deal with. Google just block out all communication, and their forum does not always answer.

I have another issue with Google regarding something else and a two line email would solve a lot of problems. Surely there must be somebody you could contact with.

On this issue I would ask "why is there not a captcha instead of freezing the commands allintitle:"xxx"

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