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Old 09-02-2010, 03:09 PM   #1
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Default #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

I have ranked #1 or very close to it in Google, Yahoo and Bing for almost a year for the keyword phrase blood pressure lower (out of almost 20 million competing sites, give or take). The Google Keyword Tool informs me that there are 165,000 searches for this term per month in the USA. Google Analytics tells me that I have recently had my (only) 1,000th visitor of all time to my website, called SuperNaturals, which you can see if you Google this term.

WHAT GIVES? Where is all the supposed organic traffic? Is Google simply lying about the number of searches? My description is adequate enough… and yet I am lucky to get 10 visitors a day.

I would appreciate it if any warriors have any insight into this situation. Has this happened to any one else? Thanks in advance for any nuggets of wisdom..!

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Old 09-02-2010, 03:29 PM   #2
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

Samurai says for phrase match #1 rank should expect 49 vistors a day. 7 for exact match. "Blood pressure lower"
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:37 PM   #3
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

I had a similar problem awhile back with a sunglasses site I used to run. Had top 5 listings in Google, Y! & Bing and got maybe 100 hits a day. This was for a very competitive kw phrase too. Or so I thought anyways.
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:38 PM   #4
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

Why would anyone search for "blood pressure lower"?

It isn't the type of thing you would search for in Google, you have to understand the thought process of searchers.

It is like thinking you can rank number one for "quotes insurance" instead of "insurance quotes" and get similar results, you won't because people won't input "quotes insurance" - it doesn't make any sense.

As Vincenzo says, you have to use the EXACT match - NOT broad when looking at the search data.

Don't worry though as many people have made this mistake.
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:44 PM   #5
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

You should use skool instead of the other search tool: Google

You'll see that your keyword is in fact not being searched. If you use the other google keyword tool, it will tell you some ridiculous number over 100,000. What that means is that phrases with those 3 words in it are search over 100,000 times a month, but not that exact term. For that exact term, there you will find it is less than 400 and don't expect to get all those 400 for yourself

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Old 09-02-2010, 03:48 PM   #6
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When I use the google keywords tool it says it get 590 monthly. That' using Exact Match - is that what you were using?

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I have ranked #1 or very close to it in Google, Yahoo and Bing for almost a year for the keyword phrase blood pressure lower (out of almost 20 million competing sites, give or take). The Google Keyword Tool informs me that there are 165,000 searches for this term per month in the USA. Google Analytics tells me that I have recently had my (only) 1,000th visitor of all time to my website, called SuperNaturals, which you can see if you Google this term.

WHAT GIVES? Where is all the supposed organic traffic? Is Google simply lying about the number of searches? My description is adequate enough… and yet I am lucky to get 10 visitors a day.

I would appreciate it if any warriors have any insight into this situation. Has this happened to any one else? Thanks in advance for any nuggets of wisdom..!
I ran the keyword in Micro Niche Finder and I got 480 monthly searches and comp of 1 million +. Unless I misread it...



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Old 09-02-2010, 03:57 PM   #8
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

Samurai is indicating the keyword only gets 19 exact searches a day. Though it gets searched 8k a day on the broad sense. But the number you need to pay attention to is the exact search count, not the broad.

It doesn't pay to use Google keyword tools unless you also have access to the exact counts.

Don't feel bad though. We all get burned by that sooner or later.

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Old 09-02-2010, 05:28 PM   #9
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Don't feel bad though. We all get burned by that sooner or later.
Yeah, that's for sure .... I didn't even know about using exact match until about a year ago and I'm embarrassed to say how long I have been doing this for! It's a miracle any of my earlier sites even got traffic.

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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

This is an unfortunate and common mistake for newbies.

When researching keywords with Google keyword tool you have to be careful as it doesnt always show the whole picture.

"Blood Pressure Lower" may show 1,000´s of searches a month but in reality the results are for the keyword "Lower Blood Pressure".
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

Thanks Warriors...
Now I know about broad and exact and I am going to go and have a good cry.
Then I will choose some exact match keywords that do not have crazy ridiculous competition. Thanks Sleaklight for the tip on Skool..I had never managed to find that one yet.

Although I don't feel too bad because I have been ranking very well for some local search terms and have brought on some well paying clients for that. Much easier to rank for, and there is real daily traffic that local clients love.
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

I am still confused about exact search, and I've been reading about it for a while. Market Samurai people says to search broad when using their tool. Why is it that we should use exact search on Google? Just wondering. I really am still confused about it.
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

OK you can buy the keyword in Google Adwords and get a daily exact count to see. I would not run a long campaign. Just long enough to see what is going on.

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Old 09-04-2010, 10:52 AM   #14
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

Which one is your url so we can actually make a more informed comment.

There are a few listings I would not click on as their description or title is not relative to the keyword and what I was expecting.

You see everyones goes on and on about keywords but it is what is wrapped around those keywords that is far more important.

If a person types in the keyword or phrase and your title and description do not attract then you may have well said pink flying elephants.

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I am still confused about exact search, and I've been reading about it for a while. Market Samurai people says to search broad when using their tool. Why is it that we should use exact search on Google? Just wondering. I really am still confused about it.
Exact search gives you the exact number of people a keyword can send to your site within a given period of time. When picking keywords for a site it is best to begin with exact search, broad search puts together result from different partners of Google.

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This is why running a test PPC campaign for a keyword is wise prior to starting to build out a site and do a lot of seo work for it.
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Old 09-04-2010, 11:03 AM   #18
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

so does no one use "phrase" in google keywords
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Default Re: #1 on Google out of 20 Million-Zero Traffic?

If you search "BROAD" yes it shows like 100K searches per month, but if you do "EXACT" then it shows 0 searches per month. no one is searching for that term, which is why you rank and why you don't get any traffic.

In Broad it is picking up each word no matter the position, so as long is your stuff contains those keywords. But really the only reason you are ranking for this keyword is because of your domain name. So, it shows that yes you can rank for that term but if there was any real competition for this keyword, you probably wouldn't be in the first few pages until you did some traffic and link building.

So this is only one keyword. You should be focusing on hundreds if not thousands of keywords, because there are that many variations.

You need to get a big list of keywords and create a specific page that only talks about that keyword and then drive traffic to that page with articles and videos and podcasts, and social media and social bookmarking.

Start with easy wins like these keywords that don't get much traffic and then work your way up. Google will reward you in a few months, yes that's how long it typically takes unless you've found the few that everything fits right.

Pick a handful like 3 that actually get traffic and see what the competition is doing.

But that's why only a small fraction, like 20-30% of our traffic comes form Google.

I don't care if Google goes out of business, it won't affect me much because of all the traffic we get from other places, like the social media places and web 2.0 properties, and links from other sites, and videos and articles, etc. Plus we don't support Googles Pay per click model. We stick to free. Takes a bit longer, but the long run is where the success is.

So build out your keyword list HUGE. and then start driving traffic using all those places, Google isn't the giant any more.

you might want to outsource the repetitious tasks and spend a little bit so you can save time.

Now, consider this, YouTube just bumped out Yahoo for the 3rd largest search engine. So 1 social media site is now larger than one of the original search engines.

And consider youtube and facebook alone, 2 sites, get way more traffic than Google. And there are thousands of these sites out there. So don't just focus on Google - You need a mix.

And google even told us that with their release of the Universal Search engine and the Caffeine Alg. Plus take a look at all the sites Google is buying up, social media sites, video sites, online gaming, networking sites, image sharing sites, music sites, etc. You need to be at those places too.

Bottom line is you need a mix. You need to diversify and not be looking at just one thing, but an orchestra of things. Google will reward you later.

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Actually there is only 28k competing pages. And to your second question about google lying about the numbers. Yes they do typically you should take that number they give you with there keyword tool and divide it by 4 which would give you about 40k monthly searches. Although I do not see a site suprenatural anywhere with in the first ten results. By chance have you stared your site. If so then it will always show up first when you search for that term. Although I did find one site with the term supernatural in the title bloodpressurelower.net is this your site. I show it in the to ten although it is actually in spot 4 or 5. From what I see.

Also did you use a description tag to basically presell your site. People may be seeing the site but not clicking it. In the number 2 spot for garden solar I have a ctr of about 9% My guess is though that most of the traffic for that term is going directly to the ppc ads because there is 3 above the search terms alone not to mention the ten on the right sidebar.

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Why would anyone search for "blood pressure lower"?

It isn't the type of thing you would search for in Google, you have to understand the thought process of searchers.

It is like thinking you can rank number one for "quotes insurance" instead of "insurance quotes" and get similar results, you won't because people won't input "quotes insurance" - it doesn't make any sense.

As Vincenzo says, you have to use the EXACT match - NOT broad when looking at the search data.

Don't worry though as many people have made this mistake.
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You might also note that the NON-commercial intent of the phrase "blood pressure lower" is quite high, according to MSN ADLABS. ...meaning it will not tend to attract serious buyers, unfortunately.
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I'll go with market samurai's result. It has to be [exact match].

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