Google penalized Angela, Paul and Terry? Overdoing of profile links will result in this?

[davidtakson]

It is advantageous to stick to the normal rules while optimizing your website. If you focus on lots of updates, changes are punished.

[bollinger]

I also think this could be the result of the high competition of this keyword.

[GeorgR.]

This thread becomes somewhat bizarre. Someone ban those bots/spammers please.

[TheAdsenseGuy]

I think I can tell you why you may think you're getting penalized for using forum profile/ Angela backlinks. If you hit your site with a couple thousand forum profile backlinks than you had pretty much better continue blasting your site for the next 30 years. Here's why.

Forum profile backlinks get deleted by the forum owners at a high rate. So let's say you blast your site with 2000 forum profile backlinks using one of these crappy services you'll find on this forum or Xrumer, ect. After about 3-4 weeks about half or more of these will probably be gone - deleted by the forum moderators.

So what happens when google sees that you had 2000 backlinks but a couple of weeks later you only have 800? Google will sandbox your site about 50% of the time. What that means is that your site will disapear from google search but it will still be indexed using - site:.

So Google is not penalizing you for getting profile backlinks. They are penalizing your site for loosing most of your backlinks so fast. And then you get to wait at least 2 months or more until your site comes back into the serps - if it ever does!!

The reason why the "more experienced guys" on this forum aren't mentioning this or have never experienced this is probably because they just continue to blast the sh_t out of their sites day in and day out with forum profile backlinks. Does that work? Probably. But I have no interest in constantly building thousands of backlinks to my site. I focus on the types of backlinks that will probably not get removed en mass. Especially since I build lots of sites. And I rank on page 1 all the time - and STAY there.

I know this because I tested this. Few months ago I built 10, 5 page Amazon sites. And using the advice from a course I bought in this forum, I used their recommended service to blast my sites with 2500 forum profile backlinks. I also got blog, social bookmarking, article marketing links. But the vast majority (90%) of the links were forum profile backlinks. And I didn't build anymore backlinks after that because this course said not to.

So within a couple weeks all my sites were on page 2 of Google. Then, about a month after I hit all these sites with the 2500 forum profile backlinks, 7 out of the 10 sites were SANDBOXED!!

They were sandboxed about 3 months ago, so don't give me that BS that it's the Google dance! And yes I tried building links over the last 3 months but it ain't workin. So I have now abandoned these sites for now. Eventually the sandbox penalty will end and they'll probably come back. But this penalty can last anywhere from 3-6 months.

In Conclusion

So this is what can happen if you want to blast your site with tons of backlinks from a source where most will get removed. Yes it will hurt your sites rankings - unless you blast away forever.

[Chris Sorrell]

Profile links work a charm and will continue doing so for quite some time as will diversity and good content. Every week there's some new panic over whether these links are gonna remain useful or not. Of course they are.

[iAmNameLess]

I for one, believe profile links are discredited. I don't believe they work anymore, not like they used to at least. I thought that for a while, but it was THIS month, actually the last 2 weeks where I really believe they are starting to become useless.

[iAmNameLess]

Originally Posted by sorrellaff

Profile links work a charm and will continue doing so for quite some time as will diversity and good content. Every week there's some new panic over whether these links are gonna remain useful or not. Of course they are.

You wouldn't be saying that if you weren't selling them. LOL.

[Fiskegrej]

In the past 7 days i have worked the pauls april backlinks and none of them is indexed I think Google just wont index the packs.

[whateverpedia]

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

You wouldn't be saying that if you weren't selling them. LOL.

He/She is actually giving them away.

[cooler1]

Originally Posted by TheAdsenseGuy

I think I can tell you why you may think you're getting penalized for using forum profile/ Angela backlinks. If you hit your site with a couple thousand forum profile backlinks than you had pretty much better continue blasting your site for the next 30 years. Here's why.

Forum profile backlinks get deleted by the forum owners at a high rate. So let's say you blast your site with 2000 forum profile backlinks using one of these crappy services you'll find on this forum or Xrumer, ect. After about 3-4 weeks about half or more of these will probably be gone - deleted by the forum moderators.

So what happens when google sees that you had 2000 backlinks but a couple of weeks later you only have 800? Google will sandbox your site about 50% of the time. What that means is that your site will disapear from google search but it will still be indexed using - site:.

So Google is not penalizing you for getting profile backlinks. They are penalizing your site for loosing most of your backlinks so fast. And then you get to wait at least 2 months or more until your site comes back into the serps - if it ever does!!

The reason why the "more experienced guys" on this forum aren't mentioning this or have never experienced this is probably because they just continue to blast the sh_t out of their sites day in and day out with forum profile backlinks. Does that work? Probably. But I have no interest in constantly building thousands of backlinks to my site. I focus on the types of backlinks that will probably not get removed en mass. Especially since I build lots of sites. And I rank on page 1 all the time - and STAY there.

I know this because I tested this. Few months ago I built 10, 5 page Amazon sites. And using the advice from a course I bought in this forum, I used their recommended service to blast my sites with 2500 forum profile backlinks. I also got blog, social bookmarking, article marketing links. But the vast majority (90%) of the links were forum profile backlinks. And I didn't build anymore backlinks after that because this course said not to.

So within a couple weeks all my sites were on page 2 of Google. Then, about a month after I hit all these sites with the 2500 forum profile backlinks, 7 out of the 10 sites were SANDBOXED!!

They were sandboxed about 3 months ago, so don't give me that BS that it's the Google dance! And yes I tried building links over the last 3 months but it ain't workin. So I have now abandoned these sites for now. Eventually the sandbox penalty will end and they'll probably come back. But this penalty can last anywhere from 3-6 months.

In Conclusion

So this is what can happen if you want to blast your site with tons of backlinks from a source where most will get removed. Yes it will hurt your sites rankings - unless you blast away forever.

If what your saying is correct then someone could just blast their competitiors site with a 2500 profile link package then when the moderators delete the profiles and the backlinks disappear they'll get put in the sandbox. Seems crazy.

[strategic seo services]

Originally Posted by Aryan

I read this at some other forum. Made a quick search.. It looks nobody didn't started a thread about this..

For the Keyword "Backlinks" Angela, Paul and Terry were ranking at the first page of Google.

Before:

Angela - Backlinks: What they are and how to get them: GoArticles.com
Google Position for "Backlinks" - 4
PR - 5

Paul - Welcome to Pauls Quality Backlinks
Google Position for "Backlinks" - 7
PR - 5

Terry - Backlinks: The Awful Truth | Backlinks: The Backlinks Black Belt Report
Google Position for "Backlinks" - 9
PR - 5

Now:

Angela - Backlinks: What they are and how to get them: GoArticles.com
Google Position for "Backlinks" - Not in Top 100
PR - 3

Paul - Welcome to Pauls Quality Backlinks
Google Position for "Backlinks" - 56
PR - 3

Terry - Backlinks: The Awful Truth | Backlinks: The Backlinks Black Belt Report
Google Position for "Backlinks" - 14
PR - 3

Google started penalizing sites Profile Links as a major link building strategy?. I hope NO. It could be because of Overdoing Profile Links and the footprints. Angela and Paul use same usernames across all their profile links. Thats a clear footprint for Google.

Please shoot your comments on profile links..
(Though he may not like profile links, I'm expecting PhilipSEO's comments. I'm his great fan! )

This is Not At All the case. Think about it this way....if it were the case, then I could Easily kick my competition's butt for a keyword by blasting his site with 1000's of backlinks, using the same profile name. That would be too easy (and nice to do ) but , unfortunately, it's not the case. Inbound Links can never hurt your website.

[umarimtiaz3]

@Adsense Guy.....suppose what you have said it is true....then let me know how Angela's website is coming at #2 spot in google and it has been still at number 2nd for a year....

[JSProjects]

Originally Posted by umarimtiaz3

@Adsense Guy.....suppose what you have said it is true....then let me know how Angela's website is coming at #2 spot in google and it has been still at number 2nd for a year....

Because she's a pretty popular person in the IM world and has plenty of other sites linking to her. Not just profile links. Actually, if you do a quick scan of her backlinks you'll find that a good majority of them aren't profile links at all.

I'd say it'd be nearly impossible to find a site ranking high for a moderately competitive keyword / phrase with nothing but profile links.

Do they have their place? Maybe. But, and this is especially true since the Panda update, using just profile links isn't going to do much of anything at all.

Diversity is VERY important now. Unless you've got very little competition or are churning-and-burning sites without caring about their longevity.

[seoblacksmith]

For those who are still working with their web reputations. Be mindful that and excessive amount of links creation and link attrition affects your credibility.

Okay, here are the tips you guys should keep:

1. It's okay to have multiple profile links. keep in mind to use different profile names and landing pages. preferably different keywords and deep-links.

2. Having thousand of forum profiles are not good if you're not using all of them. Forum sites removes inactive members.

3. Angela's, Paul's, and Terry's profile links are still useful. Support your profile with a juice coming from your SEO efforts.

4. Limit your profile creation and provide a operational schedule to monitor your profile use.

5. Lastly, again, "Overdoing such profile links won't do good if you are doing it wrong"