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Old 10-27-2010, 09:00 AM   #1
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Hi, I just had a site that is about 1-2 months old and has been ranking number 2 on google for my keyword for about a week drop overnight in the serps to the last page. Is there a chance it will pop back up soon or does this type of thing last a long time? I don't know what I did to have this happen.

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Old 10-27-2010, 09:59 AM   #2
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Google does dance to new domains. There is a chance to pop back up, but some website never pop up. I think you should spend more time to create contents and SEO the articles, then you have more chance to pop back. One of my keyword was in page 1 for like a year and disappeared, and took another half year to 1 year to get back in page 1.

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Old 10-27-2010, 11:14 AM   #3
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I think you made backlinks for your domain fast and from low quality websites. I suggest you to make some backlinks slowly for your website to return it to the previous position. But it can take some weeks.

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Old 10-27-2010, 04:26 PM   #4
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You could be in the dance. An associate of mine's site disappeared yesterday from pos #4 for website design...only where he was. 4 other locations still showed him ranking. He came back today. Short story, any time something like this happens, do nothing except wait for a few days.

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Old 12-23-2010, 10:47 AM   #5
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I have my site went from the top page and rank down to the last page as well. My site is 2 months old. I only have been doing backlinks on web 2.0 properties and article directories. Am I building links too fast?

Robert, has your site come back to page 1 yet?
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Are you spending any time making your site better? For example, is the content expanding so that you are becoming more and more an authority?

Sometimes new sites get a little boost at first, and then you have to work at it to get in the SERPs and stay there.

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Old 12-23-2010, 12:09 PM   #7
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Did you remember to rub Buddha's belly each night? If you forget, he can get mad and put a G. Hex on you.

All kidding aside, there is a lot of factor that go into ranking. It all depends on your content, how your building links, ect.

But the short answer is, continue to build links steadily and add new content and in its due time it will start to come back.

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I recently had one site that came back after 14 weeks in the slow lane.
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Heh, funny I should see this thread because I have the same problem. And honestly, I don't have fourteen weeks to wait over something that I don't even know what I did wrong in the first place, but that is what you get when you place your destiny in someone else's hands - you get burned.
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Heh, funny I should see this thread because I have the same problem. And honestly, I don't have fourteen weeks to wait over something that I don't even know what I did wrong in the first place, but that is what you get when you place your destiny in someone else's hands - you get burned.
Get a single high PR6+ backlink from a blog post. Once the new backlinks shows in Yahoo Explorer, create a 2nd backlink on the same blog page pointing to the same exact URL that you created with the 1st backlink. Also use the same anchor-text in both backlinks.

Don't build any other backlinks (besides the two PR6) Nothing!

Let the blog sit, then watch what happens, in the SERPs.

Most times I can get a blog to bounce back in a day or two...

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Don't build the 2nd PR6 backlink until the first PR6 backlink shows in Yahoo Explorer.

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Old 12-23-2010, 01:52 PM   #11
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I am assuming this means PR6 for the web page and not the domain itself. I am wondering how does one get hold of something like this without breaking Google's T&C and paying for it.

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Old 12-23-2010, 02:43 PM   #12
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I am assuming this means PR6 for the web page and not the domain itself.
Yes, the PR6+ is page level, that's all I care about is the actual page that the backlink will be posted on.


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I am wondering how does one get hold of something like this without breaking Google's T&C and paying for it.
I have never payed a penny for a backlink.

I found a couple that I use on a regular basis by snooping around my competitions backlinks in Yahoo Explorer.

One of my favorite PR6 pages (blog page) just happens to have a lot of authority backlinks pointing to it (Wikipedia, etc...). I didn't know this until after I started posting the backlinks.

Remember, my other comment is only based on a single high PR backlink page.

You can use SeoSpyglass to help sort competions high PR backlinks, it's free.

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Get a single high PR6+ backlink from a blog post. Once the new backlinks shows in Yahoo Explorer, create a 2nd backlink on the same blog page pointing to the same exact URL that you created with the 1st backlink. Also use the same anchor-text in both backlinks.

Don't build any other backlinks (besides the two PR6) Nothing!

Let the blog sit, then watch what happens, in the SERPs.

Most times I can get a blog to bounce back in a day or two...

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Don't build the 2nd PR6 backlink until the first PR6 backlink shows in Yahoo Explorer.
Hey Yukon,
Does this really work? Did one of your site got ranked down to the last page of google before? I am assuming I have created too many junk backlinks from article directories and web 2.0 properties since their pagerank are all actually zero even tho the main domain has high page rank. And I might have gotten an over optimization penalty or some sort.

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Hey Yukon,
Does this really work? Did one of your site got ranked down to the last page of google before?
I would like to know this as well. Some of my sites are experiencing the same problem and it's super frustrating and depressing.

I know from experience if I don't do something about it, they'll get trapped there for many months. I believe this is what they call the sandbox or penalty?

@robert11 @yrre7 - Have you guys managed to get your sites to resurface following the method above? It's been over a month now.
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One of my sites did this before where it's dead last for any keyword queries other than the domain name. This is a penalty, not just a drop in SERP because some of your backlinks got devalued.

If you do nothing, it won't improve. Getting more backlinks is the equivalent of doing nothing. You have to fix whatever the Google algorithm thinks you violated ON YOUR WEBSITE and submit a reconsideration request. Backlinks are not on your website, so they have no effect.

So things I would look at include excessive affiliate links (including Amazon and clickbank), excessive linking, excessive linking with the same text anchor, keyword stuffing, link exchanges, reciprocal links between your own websites, bolding keywords, doorway pages, duplicate content, poor content, hidden text, etc. Then submit the reconsideration from Webmaster Tools telling them what was wrong and how you fixed it. Don't say that there is nothing wrong and that they've made a mistake.
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If you do nothing, it won't improve. Getting more backlinks is the equivalent of doing nothing.
Even getting links from high PR pages won't help? I hope @Yukon can chime in and comfirm this.

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So things I would look at include excessive affiliate links (including Amazon and clickbank), excessive linking, excessive linking with the same text anchor, keyword stuffing, link exchanges, reciprocal links between your own websites, bolding keywords, doorway pages, duplicate content, poor content, hidden text, etc.
Yea, I'm leaning towards keyword stuffing, so I've already reduced the keyword density on that page. Other than that, I don't have any shady things going on the site. Another thing that could have cause this would be the lack of content which results to a high bounce rate.

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You have to fix whatever the Google algorithm thinks you violated ON YOUR WEBSITE and submit a reconsideration request. Backlinks are not on your website, so they have no effect.
I've submitted a reconsideration request 3 years ago for a site that was deindexed due to server failure and it did nothing. No help, still deindexed until today. So I always doubt that would work.

How long did it took for your site to get back to the front after submitting a reconsideration?.
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zack5, if your content is poor and you're sending them off via Adsense or affiliate links, I don't think you'll ever get reindexed. Google wants us to give something valuable to freeloaders who refuse to click on anything.

For me, I think it took about 10 days to come back. If it took more than two weeks, then you guessed wrong on why Google's algorithm slapped you.
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zack5, if your content is poor and you're sending them off via Adsense or affiliate links
Don't think the content was poor (over 600 words, unique with videos and graphics) but then it's a subjective issue, but I do have adsense on it which is probably why.
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