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Old 10-29-2010, 06:20 AM   #1
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Some of my online properties are my autoblogs, I must thank the warrior forum for this, cause I first learnt about autoblogging in this forum, created my first autoblogs with the help of the countless great posts here about autoblogs.

When I first learnt about autoblogging I was so excited: "Im going to create a blog that take care of himself and its going to take care of my financial future", I can't imagine a better way to make money than this!! Money machines here I come...

My first autoblog was banned from google in less than a month it was created. After that I thought autoblogging is a myth and kept away from these nusty-easy banned machines for about a year.

But, something tickled my fingers, autoblogging sounded so romantic to me

I tried again, and failed ~10 times before I had my first successful autoblog (it made ~3$/day for several months before I had the nerve to call it a success).

Today, after 2 years Im earning a nice income from autoblogging (no, it is not my main IM source of income, but it is the one I love the most) I know why most people fail with autobloggin:

If you tried autoblogging and failed 99.999% it is because:

You didn't give it the respect it deserves!!!

Most people (in the past - me at the top) disrespect their autoblogs, it starts with the thinking "let the donkey work as hard as it can, if it fails not too bad, let it die, anyway I like horses better".

The fact that a blog is automatic doesn't mean you don't need to put some effort and thinking in its design, niche selection, keyword selection and the most important thing:

SEO.

Myth - long tail keyword don't need SEO they will be ranked high cause they are long tail, since autoblogs aim to long tails, no need to SEO it = BULL****.

The reason MOST of us fail/failed in autoblogging is because we didn't do enough (or at all) SEO.

Can you imagine creating a money site, writing good content, thinking about it, loving and caring it and after its online doing none/almost none SEO and expecting to earn money from it?

Today I know that autoblogging is one of the easiest ways to earn money online (the fact its the easiest doen't mean it is easy... ), but like in ANY buisness you need to do it right.

In autoblogging there are several things you need to do right. As I wrote I started from information in this forum, it is loaded with it, but knowing what I went through on my journey to a successful autoblog net, and reading what people are talking about, I'm sure most of the "things you should do to success in autoblogging" are done by most people. Most people don't go the one (or two) extra step needed to make this beast work properly.

Today I have my autoblogging empire, my average income is 10$/day/blog, it happened when I started respecting my autoblogs, this respect made me put some effort into them, small effort that made the difference, one of the most important things I did is to put some SEO into them.

SEO your autoblogs and they will pay you for it

I don't want to sound like you can create an autoblog and all you need to do is to SEO it and your troubles are over, FAR from it.

I say you need to do it right, I say it is not rocket science to create a good autoblog, but still it requires some knowledge and effort. I say after you have an autoblog think - if it was my money site, what extras would I do?

I can keep on bubbling about autoblogs endlessly, but there is too much to say, most/all of it was already written in this very forum, but if you guys want to shoot me with some questions, I'll
try to help... After all I owe my autoblogs success to this forum

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What autoblogging software do you use? I have one on my computer but I haven't even looked at it yet to be honest.


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Another point worth mentioning is load on your server, if you're using shared hosting you could have your blog suspended. This happened to me before. If running on shared hosting ensure that you use wp supercache, otherwise if you have a sudden spike in traffic like I did then you could get into trouble.

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What autoblogging software do you use? I have one on my computer but I haven't even looked at it yet to be honest.
If I may ask, what do you mean by "autoblogging software"?
CMS? Content Creation? Autoposter? Auto linkinking? .......Just curious.
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If I may ask, what do you mean by "autoblogging software"?
CMS? Content Creation? Autoposter? Auto linkinking? .......Just curious.
In order for him to be autoblogging he has to have some sort of automated thing to make it automated, right? The autoblogging software on my computer is called "Auto Blogging Software" I kid you not.

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What autoblogging software do you use? I have one on my computer but I haven't even looked at it yet to be honest.
I started with wp-o-matic, it is a free plugin and I'm sure you can do wonders with it, I read that lots of people are more than happy with it, for me it lacked lots of things I want from an autoblog script.

Today I use two scripts, one I wrote myself and I use it cause at the time I wrote it I didn't know of wprobot plugin (affilaite link) - which is what I use now for most of my autoblogs, in my opinion its the ferrari of autoblogging scripts.

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Your success sure is inspiring

The first autoblog is a lot of work, but the second is easier, and so forth. I think people get disappointed when their first blog doesn't make them rich. What they fail to realize though is once it is done, you can move onto the next. So many people have done well with autoblogs, I need to get my butt in gear and build some!

At one point I had thousands of domains with adsense on them, I'm no stranger to this stuff!

Would you mind sharing which resources you followed to get you started? There are quite a few out there.

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This is great information. These type of threads keep a newbie like me motivated and want to improve my IM skills to maximize my earning potential. Great Thread

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I have a dumb question. How can you do SEO on your blog when your content is pulled from other places? Meaning you can't control what keywords and such are on their articles, videos, etc. How do you do SEO on automated content?


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I have a dumb question. How can you do SEO on your blog when your content is pulled from other places? Meaning you can't control what keywords and such are on their articles, videos, etc. How do you do SEO on automated content?
It is a very important question

There are two methods to go about it:
1. The mud on the wall method:
Since we are not trying to rank for any particular keyword we won't SEO keyword-wise.

Let me try to explain what is the goal of SEOing an autoblog: we want the overall strength of the blog to increase and in that way we will increase the probability of ANY long tail keyword to appear higher in the SERPS.

If for example our blog is about weight loss, one of the post is about "weight loss in the 60th", its a quite uncompetetive keyword, but yet when the SE calculate the rank for your post (and other sites) they do 2 major things: what is the score of this page*this keyword, in this aspect we assume the score is low (no off-site SEO was done for this particular keyword).

BUT, all the other sites should get also a very high score on this aspect (they also didn't SEO this particular keyword), so the SE will probably will need to rely on the other factor:

The overall strength of the site = how many niche relative backlinks the site/page got. In this aspect our autoblog can outrank other sites.

The beauty of it is that since we are talking about long tails, we don't need a lot of power to appear first to TONS of long tails, but we do need a basic strength, or in other words the difference between 0.4 and 0.41 in this case can be the difference between 10$/day and 0$/day.

So what we do? We thourgh backlinks at the home page and deep links with random niche-related keywords.

Ok, method 2:
Although what I wrote above works, we always want to do things better, right ?

Here is what I do:
I have a script that output all the urls and titles of my blogs in a format ready for my SEO programs I use (I would share it, but just looked at it and unfortunately it has lots of in-code data about my sites - but I'm sure you can find it on the web/pay someone to write it for you - it is a VERY simple script to code).

I have another script (attached below), I put there list of urls, list of keywords and it creates a spinned version of the links. Put it on your site, input links and keywords, put 0/1 for bbcode/html output, change DB info on line 28, rename from .txt to .php and you are ready to go
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Ok... try to send me questions here and not on PM (unless there is data you afraid to share), so all will benefit, here is a summary of question I got in PM:

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My question is what do you think about autoblog content and having someone maybe write a meaningful article 2 or 3 times a week on my blog. This way I have a mixture of content?
I use ONLY duplicated content, I use content from multiple sources (article directories, youtube, yahoo answers, etc) for each post. I try to construct a post tamplate that will include a mix of relevant info for the user so everyone are happy:

I get an autoblog that get traffic and SE love
Users get different high-quality related content in one place

Duplicate content is GOLD if used properly and is a one way to a fast ban if used in the wrong fashion.

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These are the crappy auto-blog programs I've purchased on the last year:

Autoblog System X and Clickbank Predators. (CB is worse though because auto-blog system X has a few good tips.)

I did purchase Extreme Cash Blueprint and this is only program that I would recommended. The training is awesome and I really feel like he is honest and he teaches you how to auto-blog the slow and ethical (white hat) way.

How many blogs do you have all together?? How many blogs make $10 per day?

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Wow I wish I wasn't too stupid to follow this.

P.S. What SEO programs do you use? I saw in this text file something about XRumer.

P.P.S. Are you saying that the way you SEO with Automated blogs is by OFF PAGE optimization tips rather than on page?

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I viewed autoblogging the other way round.
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I heard autoblogging a couple of times before but I never tried it. Can we use free blogging platforms for this?

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Missed "some" questions here, now I have time to answer all of them:

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Another point worth mentioning is load on your server, if you're using shared hosting you could have your blog suspended. This happened to me before. If running on shared hosting ensure that you use wp supercache, otherwise if you have a sudden spike in traffic like I did then you could get into trouble.

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Yeap been there. But it might happen only in some hosting company and only if you stretch the line too much. My approach is a bit different from the main stream. I don't argue which method is the best, but many successful autobloggers claim you should create as many blogs with as many posts as possible.

I go for: create fewer autoblogs with higher income. Nowadays I create 1-10 new autoblogs in a month = never had problems with any serious hosting provider with this amount of growth rate.

But, I do have 5 different hosting (4 shared 1 vps) cause I do take my testing seriously

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You sure can. I use and highly recommend wordpress.

Theiratically you can do 99% of autoblogging for free (except paying for hosting ~10$/month), I think it is possible and doable.

But, to significantly increase your chances I would recommend some tools that do cost money (mainly for SEO, autoblogging plugin/script).

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Hmmm... which way???

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Wow I wish I wasn't too stupid to follow this.

P.S. What SEO programs do you use? I saw in this text file something about XRumer.

P.P.S. Are you saying that the way you SEO with Automated blogs is by OFF PAGE optimization tips rather than on page?

And one more thing....LOL.....what method do you use to build backlinks?
A. In a very serious research a very interesting result was found: a negative corelation between actual intelligence and subjective intelligence (smart people tend to think they are less smart than they really are, this contradictory grows the smarter you are ).

B. I use several SEO tools, my main gun is senuke (affiliate). I NEVER use xrumer on my money sites, only on my 2/3/4/5 tier sites. I know many do use it on their money sites and have good results, I won't risk it!

C. Sure I use on page, this is the easy part done automatically by many plugins (I use the platinum seo plugin - just search for it in the add plugin in wordpress). BUT, must of the effect comes from off page SEO!

D. Wow... what method do I use, I'm affraid it will take me hours to answer that, try to be more exact and I'll do my best to answer you!

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How many blogs do you have all together?? How many blogs make $10 per day?
I have hunderds of autoblogs. BUT I dont monetize 99% of them, I have lots of reasons why, some are cause at first I created my autoblogs just as a basment for my SEO efforts for my money sites, other reasons are secret .

I have an average of 10$/day from my blogs, some make 1$/day and my top one make almost 20$/day.

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Your success sure is inspiring

The first autoblog is a lot of work, but the second is easier, and so forth. I think people get disappointed when their first blog doesn't make them rich. What they fail to realize though is once it is done, you can move onto the next. So many people have done well with autoblogs, I need to get my butt in gear and build some!

At one point I had thousands of domains with adsense on them, I'm no stranger to this stuff!

Would you mind sharing which resources you followed to get you started? There are quite a few out there.

Matt
Thanks!!

I totally agree, now I can create a new quality future-money making blog in almost no time, at the beginning I had to work a whole day just to set it up, not mentioning the SEO work, etc.

Another thing I might add (you just remineded me somehow):

The second reason most autobloggers fail is:

Lack of patience

It takes 1-6 months until you start seeing money from your autoblog! At least in the way I do it. I think the smart way and the long-term way is to do it slowly.

I want my autoblogs to provide me income years and years to come. I don't want them banned, I don't want them punished with low SERP I do want them to give me a very high ROI.

So, I want a lot for them, in return I need to be patient, I can't let them grow too fast, I need to put my seeds today, work (not too much though) every few weeks and know I will see the income much later.

But... when it comes it is ALMOST set and forget, almost...

I really want to share the threads that first started me on the autoblogs, but it was so long ago, and so many thread I'm afraid I can't remember them

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I've tried autoblogging in the past to minimal success, I'll try it again though after reading this, thanks!

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Currently i have 10 autoblogs that i create 1 months ago but still not doing any backlinks on this autoblogs. So is that the main reason why most people not making money on their autoblog is because they not doing any backlink to their autoblog?

Are you doing forum profile backlink, social bookmarking, web 2.0 bakclink and rss backlink? I see that you use senuke but what do you think about seo link robot software that look similar to senuke but more cheaper because one time fee compare to senuke that have to pay expensive monthly fee.
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Those of you saying Google doesn't like autoblogs obviously haven't tried it yet. I'll just say that Google will love some of your autoblogs if they're done right.

Out of 60 autoblogs I have, 12 of them get a nice chunk of Google traffic and they're making anywhere between $10 and $50 a day. As for the rest, they're also getting SE traffic that is mainly forwarded to my main blogs (handwritten) although they're rather new.

Just a little piece of advice: don't put AdSense on your autoblogs, it just doesn't work and may have you banned from their program. Instead, try small niches and put up affiliate offers. Drive traffic to your main sites and sell there.

Don't pay big bucks for autoblogging plugins where they're some free available, like Multipress Lite. Target long tail keywords, do some promotion (pinging, use pingler.com, social bookmarking, ect), mix up RSS feeds with Yahoo Answers and ezine articles and it'll get you somewhere.

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Nice post about autoblogs here.

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So how many post do your autoblogs create per day

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Currently i have 10 autoblogs that i create 1 months ago but still not doing any backlinks on this autoblogs. So is that the main reason why most people not making money on their autoblog is because they not doing any backlink to their autoblog?

Are you doing forum profile backlink, social bookmarking, web 2.0 bakclink and rss backlink? I see that you use senuke but what do you think about seo link robot software that look similar to senuke but more cheaper because one time fee compare to senuke that have to pay expensive monthly fee.
I got several questions like the above also in my PM, so I'll try to be more specific.

Yes, Yes, Yes: So is that the main reason why most people not making money on their autoblog is because they not doing any backlink to their autoblog.

About the tools I use, I don't think it matters which tools you use, it only matters if they accomplish your goal. I love backlinking from web2.0 properties, I found these links very powerful, so my goal is to create lots of web2.0 properties with backlinks to my sites.

I think SeNuke doing that job perfectly (hmmm... ok, almost perfect), I guess there are other tools that can do it as good. I don't want to start comparing products here, but I heard that seo link robot still has the usual problems of a young product...

Those of you who already familiar with SEO, just do what works for you on your money sites to your autoblogs, the only different is that you need to put less effort into it cause you are not trying to rank for specific keywords.

This is my strategy (in general): first month: light bookmarking (10-20) and RSS submission.
second month: ~30 web 2.0 properties creation linking to random pages on the autoblog. I do tier 2&3 link building to the above properties.
3rd month: double the 2nd month.
4th month: double the 3rd month.
5th month and on... like the second month or nothing, depends on how much the autoblog makes.

I use spinned content in my web2.0 properties and again for those asking the same question again and again: I only use duplicated content from various sources (articles, yahoo answers, etc) on my autoblogs.

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Just a little piece of advice: don't put AdSense on your autoblogs, it just doesn't work and may have you banned from their program. Instead, try small niches and put up affiliate offers. Drive traffic to your main sites and sell there.
I don't think so. I create my autoblogs with automatic affiliate offers (amazon, cj and clickbank) if they fail to make me a decent income I switch them to adsense - it must be done corectly or your adsense account/autoblog might get banned - but it is 100% possible.

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backlinking is one of the MAIN reasons why so many fail. sure you created the auto blog now how are you going to get traffic. here's only two things i did to start making some money:

1) write an article and place on ezinearticles (or any/every article directory you choose)
2) either buy or find someone on fiverr with scrapebox. start blog commenting on other peoples blogs with your ezine article link included.

a couple weeks later, five of my blogs were making 10-$20/day.

Earlier someone said don't place adsense on your blogs. well, not sure what happened to him but I put Adsense box at the top of all my blogs and that has not been a problem for me. i also use 1 and only one clickbank or affiliate product. when you add too many products you confuse the customer and 9 times out of 10 they'll go away from your site. stay with only one product and you should see more success.
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I purchased WPRobot a few month ago and have seen only a little success so far.

Other than backlinks and SEO, does anyone know of good WP templates that convert well?

I'm also looking for a good resource or sites about auto-blogging techniques and strategies, any suggestions?
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As far as autoblogging software goes, WP Robot is by far the best in my opinion. Don't waste your time with crap software that's being pushed through clickbank, these are the type of programs for the masses and they suck most of the time.

And for making money: correct, for autoblogging you can't just punch in a few keywords and adsense and hope to be rich by tomorrow. Do your keyword research and do it well. Then create 5 pages, 1 for each keyword you think you can rank AND will make you money. Therefore, don't just drop an article on each of these 5 pages but something unique. Either a review or some other sort of preselling, you'll need it later.

Then SEO these pages constantly, while at the same time creating content automatically for related keywords with the help of your autoblogging software.

Then configure Maxbloggpress Stripe Ads or Maxbloggpress Max Banner Ads plugin to always have a link at the top of each of your auto-blog-posts to link to one of your 5 optimized pages. This isn't only for SEO but as I mentioned above, to presell your visitors for the stuff you're monetizing your blog with. If it's adsense, it doesn't really require preselling, but for Amazon/ebay etc. it does, as well as for CPA offers.

If you do it that way, a lot of your traffic that comes from the auto-generated blog posts will be funneled to your presell pages and you will make money.
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backlinking is one of the MAIN reasons why so many fail. sure you created the auto blog now how are you going to get traffic. here's only two things i did to start making some money:

1) write an article and place on ezinearticles (or any/every article directory you choose)
2) either buy or find someone on fiverr with scrapebox. start blog commenting on other peoples blogs with your ezine article link included.

a couple weeks later, five of my blogs were making 10-$20/day.

Earlier someone said don't place adsense on your blogs. well, not sure what happened to him but I put Adsense box at the top of all my blogs and that has not been a problem for me. i also use 1 and only one clickbank or affiliate product. when you add too many products you confuse the customer and 9 times out of 10 they'll go away from your site. stay with only one product and you should see more success.
This sounds as a technique for regular blogs, for autoblogs I wouldn't put that kind of effort...

Again, I said put effort into your autoblogs, but it can be a relatively small effort.

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I purchased WPRobot a few month ago and have seen only a little success so far.

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I'm also looking for a good resource or sites about auto-blogging techniques and strategies, any suggestions?
Wprobot is just a tool, it will make you 0$ if used wrong, and can make you financial free man if used wisely (combined with other basic staff, hmmm... did I mention backlinking ).

Feel free to shoot specific questions here, maybe this thread will become a good resource for autoblogging in time

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As far as autoblogging software goes, WP Robot is by far the best in my opinion. Don't waste your time with crap software that's being pushed through clickbank, these are the type of programs for the masses and they suck most of the time.
I'm sure there are free tools out there that can do some of the work, but no doubt wprobot is a very effective way to go about it. I personally believe that if you see autoblogging as a buisness you should put some money to increase your chances of success...

About your "5 pages" system, its a nice approach, I personally do it a bit different, I check the stats of my autoblogs that receive traffic and check which pages get relatively lots of traffic, than if its from keywords that have a converting potential I rewrite the content into a presell one (and remove ads)

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Nice post enderZ.
Great info, I have a few autoblog that need some work.
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I agree with the keyword research.. guess you put those keyword in the software to pull content on those keywords... But do not understand why you would write content on the autoblog.. isn't autoblog supposed to be pulling content on its own.

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As far as autoblogging software goes, WP Robot is by far the best in my opinion. Don't waste your time with crap software that's being pushed through clickbank, these are the type of programs for the masses and they suck most of the time.

And for making money: correct, for autoblogging you can't just punch in a few keywords and adsense and hope to be rich by tomorrow. Do your keyword research and do it well. Then create 5 pages, 1 for each keyword you think you can rank AND will make you money. Therefore, don't just drop an article on each of these 5 pages but something unique. Either a review or some other sort of preselling, you'll need it later.

Then SEO these pages constantly, while at the same time creating content automatically for related keywords with the help of your autoblogging software.

Then configure Maxbloggpress Stripe Ads or Maxbloggpress Max Banner Ads plugin to always have a link at the top of each of your auto-blog-posts to link to one of your 5 optimized pages. This isn't only for SEO but as I mentioned above, to presell your visitors for the stuff you're monetizing your blog with. If it's adsense, it doesn't really require preselling, but for Amazon/ebay etc. it does, as well as for CPA offers.

If you do it that way, a lot of your traffic that comes from the auto-generated blog posts will be funneled to your presell pages and you will make money.
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I agree with the keyword research.. guess you put those keyword in the software to pull content on those keywords... But do not understand why you would write content on the autobloutog.. isn't autoblog supposed to be pulling content on its own.
The "basic" autoblog technique is 100$ automation, but you can twist it:

Suppose you have an an autoblog about health, its 1 year old, with 1000 indexed pages, ~500 backlinks built during that year. It is quite a powerful site, isn't it?

Now, lets say you want to promote a long tail you just discovered in the weight loss niche, you can buy a new domain or expired domain or... create a new page on your autoblog, put there a presell content and SEO the hell out of it to rank #1, its a real win win:

1. You give strength to your whole autoblog by doing it = more income in few weeks to 2 months.

2. You are promoting a page in an aged domain that the SE "appreciate" = faster ranking

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Great thread. Something i thought i would touch on is permalinking. Wordpress makes this so easy. (as it does just about everything else) if you have a post on say... mountain biking safety SE's will like the url of www(dot)yourblog(dot)com/cycling/mountain-biking-safety, rather than a url of www(dot)yourblog(dot)com/?=p=56.

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Great thread. Something i thought i would touch on is permalinking. Wordpress makes this so easy. (as it does just about everything else) if you have a post on say... mountain biking safety SE's will like the url of www(dot)yourblog(dot)com/cycling/mountain-biking-safety, rather than a url of www(dot)yourblog(dot)com/?=p=56.
Very good point!

Indeed there are several on-page tweaks one should do (with any blog not just with autoblogs), I like using SEO plugin that does most of it automatic (tons of those out there).

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Hi enderZ. Do you use wpunique plugin on your autoblog and do you think before to come out your how to autoblog ebook or video course since you have success to make money on autoblog? Thanks
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I don't think so. I create my autoblogs with automatic affiliate offers (amazon, cj and clickbank) if they fail to make me a decent income I switch them to adsense - it must be done corectly or your adsense account/autoblog might get banned - but it is 100% possible.
Obviously we work different niches. Mine don't pay that much per click so there isn't much I can do with AdSense, unless you want beer money. That is why I'm sticking with Amazon, CJ, ClickBank. So far it goes along just fine.

One thing to mention is that I'm not flooding my blogs with affiliate offers but only put a few, I also drive some of their traffic to my main blogs and do the selling part there.

Some might complain that Amazon pays just a few bucks per sale. While that's true, Amazon has the best conversion I've seen.

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Hi,

I don't use wpunique for two reasons:
1. Its a BH tool (making google see duplicate content as unique) and I NEVER use BH methods on my money sites.

2. In contrast to the above I don't think that that tool really deceiving google, but I won't get into it

3. Duplicate content works good enough for me

I don't know if I'll make any ebook/video about autoblogging, but thanks to this thread I found my self doing some "autoblogging consulting"

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Obviously we work different niches. Mine don't pay that much per click so there isn't much I can do with AdSense, unless you want beer money. That is why I'm sticking with Amazon, CJ, ClickBank. So far it goes along just fine.

One thing to mention is that I'm not flooding my blogs with affiliate offers but only put a few, I also drive some of their traffic to my main blogs and do the selling part there.

Some might complain that Amazon pays just a few bucks per sale. While that's true, Amazon has the best conversion I've seen.
Totally agree with you with Amazons high conversion rate !

I think that I have a lot more to learn about maximizing the conversion rate of autoblogs, but the combination of the autoblog niche and affiliate products is crucial for good conversion.

Anyway adsense works great for some niches and less impressive in others...

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Hi enderZ. Me again. Some question like to ask. Thanks

1) How many post do you set per day and what are the interval time you set on wprobot to post?
2) Are you mostly build the backlinks to your home page or internal page?
3) Do you post many articles to article directory to get backlinks?
4) Did you use a generic keyword like 'weight loss' and then find as many keywords as possible like 1-2k keywords and then put it all into the wprobot and let the wprobot to bring back the articles whether short or long tail keywords?
5) Do you use any backlinks plugin that auto building the backlinks to your autoblog?
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Hi enderZ. Me again. Some question like to ask. Thanks

1) How many post do you set per day and what are the interval time you set on wprobot to post?
2) Are you mostly build the backlinks to your home page or internal page?
3) Do you post many articles to article directory to get backlinks?
4) Did you use a generic keyword like 'weight loss' and then find as many keywords as possible like 1-2k keywords and then put it all into the wprobot and let the wprobot to bring back the articles whether short or long tail keywords?
5) Do you use any backlinks plugin that auto building the backlinks to your autoblog?
1. new blog: 1 post a day, double it every month and stop at 10 new posts a day (e.g., after 10 months you get to 10 posts a day and I stop increasing it).
2. internal pages
3. Yeap, I use articles submitter, set it and forget it
4. Yes, but I also used a bit more specific keywords as seeds, I will first try to get as many keywords from "summer weight loss"/"winter weight loss" etc. If I wont get more than ~1000 keywords I will turn to more general keywords
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1. new blog: 1 post a day, double it every month and stop at 10 new posts a day (e.g., after 10 months you get to 10 posts a day and I stop increasing it).
2. internal pages
3. Yeap, I use articles submitter, set it and forget it
4. Yes, but I also used a bit more specific keywords as seeds, I will first try to get as many keywords from "summer weight loss"/"winter weight loss" etc. If I wont get more than ~1000 keywords I will turn to more general keywords
5. Yeap.
I dont understand how you use the articles submitter to set and forget it because i thought need to write or hire someone to write a completely new articles and not duplicate article to submit it to article directory.

I think writing article is a harder thing for me because english is not my native langauge and i think i have to skip this method and wait until i have make some money then i can hire someone to write and spin the articles for me to submit it to many article directory.

What i plan to do now is use some backlink plugin to autopilot build backlinks for my autoblog without me do anything and also use a backlinks software to get backlinks from web 2.0 site, social bookmarking site and forum site.
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You said that your first efforts were banned by google. Why was that? And do your posts actually readable because they are created by robots?
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I think many people get the wrong idea about autoblogging. In order to make any real income from this, you need to have multiple sites up and running over time. Having just one or two sites is really not going to generate any type of income to brag about.

In addition to that, no matter what they may tell you, autoblogging doesn't really work on "set it and forget it" autopilot. You'll have to look through the content and perhaps get rid of the ones that aren't relevant and off topic. It still takes some work to ensure that you're only allowing quality content to appear on your autoblog.

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Reiterating my question, just in case it didn't come across properly. I take the point that with autoblog sites you need to do off-page SEO. Let's assume we have done that correctly and we are getting nicely ranked, will Google (and their human reviewers) come along and ban our site?

In reality, autoblogging is borrowed content, and they may be unique but not original. Furthermore, the autoblog articles can often be rubbish/unreadable, e.g. some software employ the logic of translating to a few different languages. Google really like to see our sites adding value to the internet community with quality contents.

So what are your view on Google banning/deindex autoblog sites? What are some of the things that we need to avoid in the autoblog world so that Google still approves of these sites? By the way, are you getting your traffic predominantly from organic searches or referrals (which case you don't really rely on SE so much).

What are the quality of your autoblog articles? Are they spun beyond recognition? Are they readable? Or are they just borrowed from the original source with reference to the author?

Can you or someone give some good and some bad examples of autoblog sites. It does not have to be owned by you; but it would be good for us to see what is considered to be good and bad; and the reason why.

What about your opinion on using adsense on these autoblog sites? Is it safe? Why are so many people afraid of their adsense account being banned when used with autoblogging? What can be some of those reasons?

Thank you!

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They don't know about the basics.

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I think this site at Techmeme is a autoblog site with PR7. So who say google dont like autoblog and will banned your site if your site full of duplicate contents in it.
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That's just about right. I'm also using pingler.com to ping each blog to around 90 services and RSS Submitter.

I'm also writing (or have people write) articles and I post around one unique article per blog per week. Yeah, it gets rough when you have ~50 blogs but it's a great way to boost content and it can be really cheap. I tend to link to those articles more so they get hyped (also link other on-topic articles from the article page).

It may seem like hard work but you get used to it after a while, plus - considering you'll be making a few thousands more a month from autoblogs... it really adds up.

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Reiterating my question, just in case it didn't come across properly. I take the point that with autoblog sites you need to do off-page SEO. Let's assume we have done that correctly and we are getting nicely ranked, will Google (and their human reviewers) come along and ban our site?

In reality, autoblogging is borrowed content, and they may be unique but not original. Furthermore, the autoblog articles can often be rubbish/unreadable, e.g. some software employ the logic of translating to a few different languages. Google really like to see our sites adding value to the internet community with quality contents.

So what are your view on Google banning/deindex autoblog sites? What are some of the things that we need to avoid in the autoblog world so that Google still approves of these sites? By the way, are you getting your traffic predominantly from organic searches or referrals (which case you don't really rely on SE so much).

What are the quality of your autoblog articles? Are they spun beyond recognition? Are they readable? Or are they just borrowed from the original source with reference to the author?

Can you or someone give some good and some bad examples of autoblog sites. It does not have to be owned by you; but it would be good for us to see what is considered to be good and bad; and the reason why.

What about your opinion on using adsense on these autoblog sites? Is it safe? Why are so many people afraid of their adsense account being banned when used with autoblogging? What can be some of those reasons?

Thank you!
google bans on a number of different reasons... can't really be pinpointed. keeping your autoblog content as original and legible as possible helps a lot. google's spiders can also see if you are using autoblogging software, but there is a free wp plugin to block their spiders called KB robot. there are some TRASH content'd sites in the top positions on numerous keywords in google serps, which leads me, and most others to believe that keyword density, on and off page seo, and unique content can sometimes outweigh quality content, which brings me to another point, makes your reader want to leave your page and what better link for them to click on to flee the IQ-depleting content than an adsense block?

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wow this thread has been really helpful. Autoblogging is what I want to go into next so this will really help me out. cheers

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