Google Ban's auto blogs and blog dripping!

[Karen Blundell]

I only have a problem with "auto-blogs" that scrape other people's content without asking or without giving credit where credit is due, the latter being more important to me.
there are good auto blogs and bad auto blogs...just like there's good and bad in just about every situation. I hope people understand the difference.

[Crew Chief]

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

I'm wondering if Giles is posting in this thread under several accounts and having a discussion with himself - and using himself to prove his own points

Andy that would be called... well uhm, uh Tri-Polar or something or another wouldn't it?

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Just for a moment I'm going to pretend there are still people in this thread taking the OP seriously.

No pretense needed there Andy, they took her serious as soon as they saw, "Google Ban's Auto..."

That was their que to let those of us who use automated tools have it. They were chomping at the bits, regaling in our demise until they found out that there is a cadre of IMers who are not at all impressed with Google's hierarchy, technology, educational acumen or footprint sniffing tools. We respect GOOG, but we WILL NOT acquiesce to their vision of IM. Nor do we march to their barking orders.

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

I think there are way too many generalisations going on here for it to be possible to say something without it getting caught on the fence people seem to be attacking each other behind.

Are auto-blogs doomed - Of course not!!!!

That's just stupid.

Hahahahaha... Well said my friend, well said.

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Does the term 'auto-blog' mean the same thing to everyone? - No! and that is one of the problems this sort of discussion has.

People seem to think that auto-blogging means using other people's content - that's just not true.

I have auto-blogs that have been around for over 5 years and have never suffered any sort of Google problems.

Some of them use my content and other peoples' and some use just my content.

Take note auto bloggers and potential auto bloggers; you are reading pure strategical genius. To be clear, what Andy is explaining; that's how you AUTO BLOG!

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Having a team of writers creating content which then gets posted to lots of your own blogs - and then aggregated to your own news site is considered auto-blogging, but it's also a very common way to create a news site, the sort that Google love.

Ohh, so that's how its done, continue on, sir...

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Auto-dripping content is just a process - it's not good or bad. Auto-blogging is just a process.

Did you get that auto blog haters? [check]

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Google have some very clever people working for them and they're not completely ignorant of the different ways people use systems and tools to run their businesses.

Andy, actually you just made a profound statement in the sense that many IMers believe that Google's sole purpose is to serve as the IM Police. They see GOOG as a regime that is hell bent on banning, de-indexing, sandboxing and otherwise unjustly slapping IMers and that is just not the case... unless you have Google-itus!

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

If you think Google would just blanket ban any method of posting content without consideration for the way it helps their business then you probably have Google-itus. Google does not own the Internet and is not the be-all and end-all of what you should consider, but also they're big enough to know that any business owner needs tools and systems in order to build their business.

Andy, that's the first time I heard that term and I'm running with it!

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

It's the way you use these things that will cause you problems - not the methods themselves.

Bingo! Right that down people!

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

When you hear anyone say that a process will get penalised - it should set off alarm bells that they probably don't know what they're talking about - or are just spouting off their opinion.

I'm reading this post and saying to myself, Andy has nailed some golden truths and his last statement is proof pudding.

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

We all have opinions - but our experience of something doesn't create a universal law that means it must apply to everyone else.

Oh, that's what they are implying [universal law] when they say, Adsense is dead, Auto blogging should be banned, ScrapeBox users are scum, BMD users are total spammers, I hate IM automation and yada, yada, yada, blah, blah blah?

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Lots of people have successful auto-blogs that have made them good money for a long time and will for a long time to come...

And as Bill Murray said in the move "Stripes" "That's a fact jack!" Hahahaha...

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Giles - you're very funny. I can't decide whether you're a mad genius or just mad

Andy, that mentality comes from being in Electronic Intel, we see in the dark!

Giles, the Crew Chief

[JonMills]

Originally Posted by warriortx

Hi Warriors

I was told by a close friend of mine that has a friend that works for google
and he tells me that google is inches away of nailing auto blogs and dripping blogs which I think are the same and sending them to the sandbox which I believe because they can already nail most of the back linking software out there so beware.

My question is has anyone heard anything?

NONSENSE! and yet VERY TRUE

Wordpress provides autoblogging. So its not autoblogging that is the issue here.

its the type of stuff being posted that is.

Google is all for relevancy. They dont give 2 ****s about people filling the net with content, they give a crap about it being relevant, and not just grabbed from other places on the net.

If they were to target autoblogging they would have to target every wordpress blog online, along with other auto content systems.

Again they look for fingerprints, certain things which indicate its not manned by someone.. Now that is EASY to spot! You dont need a room full of monkeys to tell the sites online that are total crap and filled with nonsense.

[Lothar Evers]

Originally Posted by markowe

So wait, this news effectively came from a friend of a friend? Must be true then!

Completely agree, they have more important things to do and they atomate a lot themselves...

[Jill Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Andyhenry:
It's the way you use these things that will cause you problems - not the methods themselves.

So you mean I should not use the electric turkey carving knife to trim nose hairs?

[Rsberg]

<<<< Is wondering how long it will take the nay sayers to try to figure out some form of rebuttle for all of those quotes...

The rebuttle wont have much of a foundation to stand on but it will be presented anyway.

Me thinks it wont be long now....

[Crew Chief]

Originally Posted by avenuegirl

So you mean I should not use the electric turkey carving knife to trim nose hairs?

Jill, they say, "Great minds think alike!"

You use a electric turkey carving knife to trim those nose hairs; and I know you how much you have got to enjoy the process!

I use a Stihl FS120 Weed Eater to trim my nose hairs and will be using a Stihl MS 310 Chainsaw to cut my toenails after the sales starts tomorrow.

And by the way, AUTO BLOGGING rocks!

If you are not auto blogging, you are missing out!

Giles, the Crew Chief

[Will Edwards]

I have heard nothing about this, but I hope Google does manage to clean up its serps by filtering out content that is essentially junk, no matter how it does it.

Will

[wordwizard]

Originally Posted by Karen Blundell

I only have a problem with "auto-blogs" that scrape other people's content without asking or without giving credit where credit is due, the latter being more important to me.
there are good auto blogs and bad auto blogs...just like there's good and bad in just about every situation. I hope people understand the difference.

I agree with you, Karen!

Scraping is one thing, but scraping without giving credit stinks!

And no, I haven't heard anything about Google banning autoblogging either, not that
this means anything -- I'm not keeping up that well thing this particular issue.

Elisabeth

[JohnMcCabe]

As a famous man (Yogi Berra) once said, "It's deja vu all over again..."

Does anyone remember those really crappy software-generated 'made for Adsense' sites? The ones that would take a list of keywords and generate hundreds or thousands of pages of keyword stuffed gibberish and an ad block?

Google was not against sites created to profit from Adsense ads. Google was against losing users due to worthless pages clogging the search results. Google was against losing advertisers due to worthless clicks by people trying to get out of the MFA pages, and taking a chance on clicking an ad - especially when that ad was presented as navigation.

So they took steps to identify and drop sites that fit that pattern. Sites that presented relevant content along with the Adsense ads are still thriving, for the most part.

It will be the same with blogs filled with keyword-loaded trash pulled from article directories choked with badly spun keyword pablum. Eventually, the user experience will be so poor on those sites that the pattern will be incorporated into the algorithm. Sites that use the automation tools to create valuable resources (and that means of value to someone besides the site owner) will still prosper.

When blog automation abuse is handled, something else will take it's place.

As several others have said, don't blame the tools, blame the craftsman.

[QuinNguyen]

Haven't heard anything about this but I have heard that backlink doesn't count as much as it used to.

[Jill Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Jill, they say, "Great minds think alike!"

You use a electric turkey carving knife to trim those nose hairs; and I know you how much you have got to enjoy the process!

I use a Stihl FS120 Weed Eater to trim my nose hairs and will be using a Stihl MS 310 Chainsaw to cut my toenails after the sales starts tomorrow.

And by the way, AUTO BLOGGING rocks!

If you are not auto blogging, you are missing out!

Giles, the Crew Chief

Believe it or not - of all the things I have tried and set up I have not done serious autoblogging.

I got caffenated content when it first came out - just to play. My initial plan with it was to pull in the content and go back in and rewrite the majority of it just to be unique.

Recently I've been perusing some plugins for amazon to pull that content in - and was thinking to pair it up with some other auto content. This would be for micro niches of course - the ones that would be the most difficult to get content on.

Still shopping around.

I was a bit upset earlier about your comment on the aliens as they do exist - but I had to let it slide. It is Thanksgiving after all.

[AndrewCavanagh]

Over the years you'll see thousands of black hat SEO strategies.

Someone will be selling some brand new software or information product that "tricks" the search engines into giving you top rankings.

And then a few months later you'll see a post on the warrior forum something like "New google slap" and all those people using that technique will be wailing about their sites disappearing from the google rankings, their traffic and sales disappearing etc etc.

How long does it take for people to work this out?


There's only 2 main principles you need to understand if you want good google rankings and you want to keep them for years to come:

# 1: Google likes to give it's searchers unique, high quality highly targeted content.

It's algorithms are designed to do that and they'll be refined to reward high quality, highly targeted content and weed out anything that isn't high quality, highly targeted content.


# 2: Google will also rank based on how much it trusts a page on a site. That will depend heavily on a variety of factors but especially on that page having links from other related sites it trusts.



So there are two principles here:

# 1: Put unique high quality highly targeted content on your site.

# 2: Get backlinks from sites related google trusts to the pages on your site.



The people who have done that over the years just laugh whenever there is a "google slap" because it means another dodgy black hat SEO strategy has hit the dirt.

And their sites are staying at the same rankings and rising because they focused on giving google what it wants...and exceptional experience for its searchers.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

[FrontLineMentor]

This is a long discussion. Anybody has come to a conclusion from this thread discussion?

If it can be updated in the front page whether autoblog is gonna get down soon? How about auto backlinking for every post (like some plugins provide?)

[Billy Rey]

Never gonna happen.

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by FrontLineMentor

This is a long discussion. Anybody has come to a conclusion from this thread discussion?

If it can be updated in the front page whether autoblog is gonna get down soon? How about auto backlinking for every post (like some plugins provide?)

Pretty much the basics of this thread is there is one side who thinks Google is going to destroy anything with the word "Auto" in it.

Theres another side who thinks thats a bit paranoid and never sees it happening.

To auto blog or not to auto blog that is the question...

It all boils down to choice. If you want to approach it then go for it, if your affraid of the big bad G then stay away...but....

Dont let unconfirmed rumors scare you away. Just because a blog is "auto" doesn't meant it will instantly burst into Google flames. Auto Blogging can be (just like any other form of IM) profitable as well as a long term strategy.

It's been said here by several people...

It's not the tools you use but how they are used that either determines failure or success.

[Andyhenry]

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Does anyone remember those really crappy software-generated 'made for Adsense' sites? The ones that would take a list of keywords and generate hundreds or thousands of pages of keyword stuffed gibberish and an ad block?

Remember them - I saw people lining up to pay $10k and $20k to go on weekend training courses that showed how to use them.

There are still people selling basically the same thing now - often just using WP to create the pages instead.

[paulie888]

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Remember them - I saw people lining up to pay $10k and $20k to go on weekend training courses that showed how to use them.

There are still people selling basically the same thing now - often just using WP to create the pages instead.

What comes to mind here is the old saying that a poor workman always blames his tools. Autoblogging is just something in the arsenal of tools that an internet marketer can deploy, and depending on how it is wielded the results can be good or spectacularly bad.

An autoblog plugin is just a tool, nothing more and nothing less. If you don't use it appropriately, then bad things can and will happen to your blogs. It is your method of employing it that gets you in trouble with Google, not the tool itself!

Paul

[Andyhenry]

Originally Posted by paulie888

What comes to mind here is the old saying that a poor workman always blames his tools. Autoblogging is just something in the arsenal of tools that an internet marketer can deploy, and depending on how it is wielded the results can be good or spectacularly bad.

An autoblog plugin is just a tool, nothing more and nothing less. If you don't use it appropriately, then bad things can and will happen to your blogs. It is your method of employing it that gets you in trouble with Google, not the tool itself!

Paul

Agreed- that's exactly what I've been saying all along in this thread.

[Tony Marriott]

Originally Posted by Karen Blundell

I only have a problem with "auto-blogs" that scrape other people's content without asking or without giving credit where credit is due, the latter being more important to me.
there are good auto blogs and bad auto blogs...just like there's good and bad in just about every situation. I hope people understand the difference.

Thanks for some sanity

FACT.. Google will continue to develop it's strategies, practices and tools in a never ending process of improving the search experience. That search experiece. The search experience translates directly into money in Googles pocket. They will happily penalise any sites or groups of sites (even if that appears to loose them money in the short term) if they believe they will get more money in the long term. That's how any successful business works (and I don't think anyone will disagree that Google is a successful business).

We cannot know exactly what Google can and cannot do until they do it. In fact almost everything we do know about Google is because we have reverse engineered the results.
Is Google happy for us to believe they do "amazing" things and see every site on the internet and tell whether it's a good or bad one in their eyes (automatically)? Of course they are. Are they capable of that? of course not. Will they be? Who knows.

Forget about worrying what Google are going to do and get on with building your own business. Diversify your income to protect any singular changes that could ruin it. Does Walmart only sell bread? No, they increase their range of products so when the world bread shortage hits they won't go bankrupt. Eggs and baskets and all that (yes they sell them too!)

[Owen Smith]

If Google banned autoblogs today, google would collapse, there would be 20% at least less advertising space and less Adsense campaigns to match, be realistic.

[sbucciarel]

Originally Posted by Intrepreneur

Google News results still littered with autoblogs so I doubt it very much. That is where they are most strict about what gets in and even there it is completely littered with autoblogs.

Provide examples. Google News requires that the news articles are unique. They ban sites that don't provide unique content from Google News. It's only a matter of time in Google News before they are detected and removed from Google News.

[InternetSuccess001]

It's possible, but it depends how well they've developed their alogrithm.

And TPW is correct, one of the 'easiest' ways (not the only way) is simply looking at footprints. Chances are 1000's of the 'autoblog' sites do things *exactly* the same way, because 1000's of people purchased 'Ultimate AutoBlog Profits by Joe Shmoe', and are too lazy to change anything.

So yes, it is quite easy for Google (rather the computer algorithms) to detect. If they are stepping it up a bit (i.e., to find variations), that is also possible.

If google has gotten wind of the 'auto-blog' abuse, then yes, it is very easy for them to sandbox those sites.

John

[Ethan Ooi]

AdSense Facts & Fiction Part V: Unoriginal content - Inside AdSense

this is interesting...not only sandboxing autoblog...but probably banning adsense now....

[warriortx]

Originally Posted by seowebempire

AdSense Facts & Fiction Part V: Unoriginal content - Inside AdSense

this is interesting...not only sandboxing autoblog...but probably banning adsense now....

is this the joke thread now

[satrap]

I have to agree with Andy. Are they going to ban all the news sites, article sites, membership sites and all the rest?...

On the other hand, we have seen it before that sometimes when they come up with a new rule or a new ban on something, they dont care if some legit sites get punished in the process. Why would they care anyway? Its Google!

[celente]

been warning people in here about this for a long time.

Rsberg, eveytime one of these posts show up you come and say how good autoblogging is .... check to ignore mate. Ignorance is bliss.

Time for people to bite the bullet and go out and create real blogs full of useful content that will gain intrest. Not just use the cheap, lazy ass way to clog up the net with yet more crap.

I mean, comeon seriously sit down with yourself and think about it.

[navyseal]

I guess automation.......

We're all doooommm!

[mikemcmillan]

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Giles, I even heard from a reputable source that Elvis is dead.

John, I resent the shallowness of your remark. Please check your facts before posting about Elvis again! (I'm the one on the left )

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by celente

been warning people in here about this for a long time.

Rsberg, eveytime one of these posts show up you come and say how good autoblogging is .... check to ignore mate. Ignorance is bliss.

Time for people to bite the bullet and go out and create real blogs full of useful content that will gain intrest. Not just use the cheap, lazy ass way to clog up the net with yet more crap.

I mean, comeon seriously sit down with yourself and think about it.

I'm amazed it took you this long to post here celente...I mean really, everytime there's an autoblogging thread or anything remotely connected to it you are there pretty quickly spreading your hate.

I've heard it from you before...many times...

"real blogs...blah blah blah...real content...blah blah blah"

Don't you ever get tired of trash talking other peoples choices in how they approach IM? Have you ever thought that it really is NONE of your business? No one elected you supreme being over all that is IM. I'm sure you think you are but I promise you...you're not!

I bet it burns your ass that none of my blogs (and many others I know and talk to pretty regularly) have been affected yet several "unique" content sites have suffered and dropped in the rankings due to this new Google change.

Also...I have NEVER said "how good autoblogging is", what I have said is that you (and many other "haters") have sadly mistaken what it is all about, what it can offer not only the individual reader but the internet as a whole and the fact that it can offer value to both. I along with many others here have found ways to make it work for us AND provide value. I'm sorry you cant seem to accept that but as usual...thats just your opinion!

[paulgl]

Originally Posted by Owen Smith

If Google banned autoblogs today, google would collapse, there would be 20% at least less advertising space and less Adsense campaigns to match, be realistic.

That sounds logical, but in reality at any given moment, the adwords users who
currently are showing ads is probably at best, below 5%. Which means 95% of
potential ads don't get shown. So a 20% drop in ad space would be
instantly filled. And the quality of ad space would instantly improve, making
minimum bids higher, more revenue to google and adsense users still in
the mix.

The percent of ads shown is probably much lower than 5%.

Since thousands of websites are created each day, and google has an unending
number of people wishing to get in on adwords and adsense, there would be
no problem.

Paul

[TZ]

Respectfully have to disagree in a massive way.

My autoblogs are doing great. Not even a hiccup. Some have increased.

This "autoblogs are bad" meme is going to be debunked over time, but it's fun to watch the fear. Colbert would be proud.

As far content dripping is concerned, I suppose these sites will all be banned soon;

• Twitter
• Yahoo Answers
• Answers.com

And the list goes on, and on, and on, and on.

The sky is falling and I live by the river.

Another point. I BUILD autoblogs and yet I find myself looking something up on Google, clicking to read the article, and when I finish reading the informative article, I do a search test to realize WOW!!! I just got some information I wanted from a.....you geussed it AN AUTOBLOG.

Total bunk.

"My friend at Google"

The small handful of people who actually work on the Google algo can almost be counted on one hand. I know, because I heard it from a dude who worked on the car of his barber, who heard it from a realtor, who has a sister who works in dildo factory, who heard it from a co-worker, that heard it from some guy with a GOLDEN VOICE on skid row in Columbus.

[cbpayne]

Originally Posted by TZ

Total bunk.

Perhaps you can come over to the Google Webmaster help group and explain to all those with autoblogs why Google has been de-indexing them.

[Chris Sweeney]

Originally Posted by warriortx

Hi Warriors

I was told by a close friend of mine that has a friend that works for google
and he tells me that google is inches away of nailing auto blogs and dripping blogs which I think are the same and sending them to the sandbox which I believe because they can already nail most of the back linking software out there so beware.

My question is has anyone heard anything?

Well you were right, Google has been knocking out the auto-blogs a lot recently. You should probably keep that friend of your friend close by, squeeze as much info out of him as you can, and start a new thread about Google updates that people aren't supposed to know about. DO ITTTTTTT!

[yukon]

Originally Posted by warriortx

Hi Warriors

I was told by a close friend of mine that has a friend that works for google
and he tells me that google is inches away of nailing auto blogs and dripping blogs which I think are the same and sending them to the sandbox which I believe because they can already nail most of the back linking software out there so beware.

My question is has anyone heard anything?

I have a friend that knows a guys, mail man, neighbors, nephews, mother inlaws, bankers kids teachers, doctors patients, webmaster that says Google will never stop auto blogs!

They might stop the herds footprint, but not the guy that took the time upfront to not stand out like all the other thousands that use the same setup/themes.

[SEOChief]

I think it all goes back to exactly how you carry this process out just like with many other topics. If you create a new autoblog and then have 10 articles post to it on a daily basis you might find Google an unfriendly player on your team. If instead you slowly drip articles to your autoblog and allow the process to be much more natural in scope you should be just fine in my opinion.

I don't come to that answer lightly either for my very job is based on that statement above being correct.

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by cbpayne

Perhaps you can come over to the Google Webmaster help group and explain to all those with autoblogs why Google has been de-indexing them.

I'd be curious to know what those people are doing that their sites are getting deindexed. Along with TZ (myself and many others) aren't having these problems...

Then again, those I've spoken with (and myself) don't just throw together crap sites and hope for the best. That's probably the difference.

[komalselva]

i am getting first page for 10 or more slightly competitive keywords for my auto content blog (using rss feed)

[yukon]

Originally Posted by komalselva

i am getting first page for 10 or more slightly competitive keywords for my auto content blog (using rss feed)

That's why I block hotlinking my downloads server side.

Stops guys like you from scraping the good stuff, from my RSS feeds.

[komalselva]

Originally Posted by yukon

That's why I block hotlinking my downloads server side.

Stops guys like you from scraping the good stuff, from my RSS feeds.

But we are driving traffic to the original site

the site shows only the title of the latest news if a user click it it redirects to the original page. and some of the news paper websites submit their rss feed to me ane even beg be to add their feed to my website (because my site getting decent traffic from search engines)

yes we getting money from that site but its like salary for marketing their web site. they are giving us content we are giving them traffic whats wrong in it

[automaton]

The guys from Google are "inches away" for the last few years

[warriortx]

Originally Posted by yukon

I have a friend that knows a guys, mail man, neighbors, nephews, mother inlaws, bankers kids teachers, doctors patients, webmaster that says Google will never stop auto blogs!

They might stop the herds footprint, but not the guy that took the time upfront to not stand out like all the other thousands that use the same setup/themes.

Your crazy

[mojojuju]

Originally Posted by warriortx

Your crazy

Whose crazy?

[Ray01]

well, is there a way to verify that information ?

[Soulofinfamy]

A lot of people here don't know what Banned is, Why should someone consider them banned if they're still indexed?

[Teravel]

These are the kinds of threads that make me feel bad about the human race. "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!".

I didn't read the entire thread, and I don't think I have to. This topic shows up at least twice a week, and has since 2006 or so. So lets get on with a few things to show that Google isn't going to shoot their own foot, and do away with drip-fed blogs.

1) Google is a Search Engine. In being a search engine, they have no original content themselves. All the content they show is written by someone else. Amazing!

2) Googles favorite websites above all others, is NEWS websites. If you're one of those people that gets up in the AM and puts on the news while having breakfast, you may not know it, but your not watching anything new. Everything shown on the news has already been posted online and discussed almost to death. It is than put on the news.

Example: Fox and NBC talked about a website detailing government leaks about a month or so ago. The site is huge (Hundreds of pages of original content), and was up for months. This site was read, talked about, bashed, and everything else for the better part of 3 months. Thats when Fox and NBC decided to discuss it with the public on Television. These news sites posted the information on their website, and even LINKED to the website so readers could view the page!!! (Yes, lets give backlink juice to the guy releasing government secrets, great job Fox and NBC!)

3) Not all Drip-fed blogs are Auto-blogs. I could order 100,000 articles from warriors here, and post them all on a delayed timer (or "Drip-Fed") to be posted 100 per day for the next 1,000 days. Lets assume that 90% of that content is real content, and that only 10% is rehashed crap that was run through one of those stupid spinner programs. This would make the site a very legit source to get information, but also means it is a drip-fed blog. Is google really going to block this site? Of course not. That would HURT Google as a Business.

4) Google is not the most powerful resource on the internet anymore. They gave that power to Facebook when they decided to post Ads on Facebook in hopes of driving more traffic to their search engine. I haven't seen it as of yet, but I honestly believe that they will be doing the same with Youtube soon.
Yes, Google gets over 60% of "SEARCH ENGINE TRAFFIC", but YouTube and Facebook have more traffic than Google.


Google isn't the biggest dog in the yard anymore. Many marketers get most of their traffic through sources other than Search Engines.

Google isn't going to slap drip-fed blogs. They would be shooting themselves in the foot, and in the Internet Race, you need every advantage you can get.

IF Google ever did something that hurt all these sites like everyone has been crying about for years... Google would slowly collapse into the world of the poor folk, and Yahoo and Bing would start a new battle for who will take first place as the "Search Engine Leader".

Be a smart Internet Marketer and take this advice...

* TAKE ACTION!!! (You can't make money online reading forums, No offence WF!)
* Stop worrying about 1 traffic source when there are litterally HUNDREDS or more traffic sources.
* The more you put in, the more you get back.
* THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!!! (Take the blinders off your eyes. There is more to the internet than the Google/Yahoo/Bing (MSN) Fight. Try Article Directories, Document Directories, Slideshow Directories, Micro Blogs, Social Networks, Video Directories, OFFLINE promotion, Word of Mouth... The list goes on and on, you just have to be willing to take off the blinders and put yourself out there.)

One last thing... If you rely 100% on Google to get all of your traffic, then you might as well quit IM now and save yourself the time, money, and heartbreak. Relying on a single source for web traffic is like a downs syndrom child running a race against the olympic racers. You wont win unless all the other racers quit.

[Soulofinfamy]

It's not true

[ScrapeBoss]

Autoblogs are still making money for those who know what they are doing. In fact, I have started building more these days and I will continue to do.

[paramongoose]

I would personally just keep the backlinks manual, the backlinks will stick for longer, and its just a higher quality approach in general.