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Per each article I submit.... should I submit the same article to as many directories as possible or just 4 or 5 high PR ones (like Ezine)?
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There are two school of thought on this. One is going the route you already pointed out and just go with Ezine and some of the other "high-level' directories. Be sure to spin the article each time. The other school of thought is to submit it to as many directories as possible. The more backlinks the better. However, if you do this manually, it can eat up a lot of time. Time you could be spending writing other articles or focusing on your product. |
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Hey Derek! This question really depends completely on the competition you are targeting. It is always better to go for as many as you can do because more links = more rankings. However, if you only have the time/resources to do about 4/5, go for the high-PR ones (I would suggest Ezine Articles, Articles Base, Go Articles, Article Dashboard, Articles Factory, etc) I would include 2 backlinks back to 2 different URLs using your anchor text. I would then spend my time backlinking these articles to create strong linking funnels. You can do this by either using one resource link to your website and one to an article in your next set of 5 articles or you can use any other backlinking method such as high PR blog comments, profile links, etc. A lot of articles out there have little to no backlinks to them because people just use them for backlinking purposes to their own sites, which is why backlinking your backlinks can really rise your article rankings, therefore increasing your own rankings, direct traffic, and over time your page rank. -Dave |
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Unique article links are given more weight. The same article submitted 20 times will not have anywhere near as much link value as 20 unique articles submitted once. So the more work you put in the more value you extract. Cut corners and you lose some worth.
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The phrase "using a spinning software" sounds like an automation shortcut but don't be fooled. The art of spinning properly takes time and requires multiple rewrites and phrase rewrites, it also takes experience to generate good quality articles after a spin. -Dave | |
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I think that's what skramer meant by spin. I just thought I'd elaborate slightly unless the OP wasn't sure |
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I wouldn't even recommend submitting it to any more than one article directory. It's not very effective for SEO purposes. Instead, spin it and submit it to a blog network. It takes a bit of time to spin an article, but the sweat equity is justified by having tons of contextually diverse backlinks from a broad range of IP's pointing to your money site. Much more effective for SEO than just submitting to a bunch of different directories. And if you're trying to pull traffic from the articles themselves, only submit to one. You will only show up one time if the content is duplicate, so submit an article and backlink the crap out of it. |
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You can also target different keywords each time and collect traffic from a variety of easy to target keywords. Unique articles on unique IPs with unique keywords is NOT duplicate content. | |||
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| Eric Conklin War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ohio
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Dadamson, nothing in your post really makes sense when you run the numbers and you don't seem to be positing any coherent arguments for why what I say is bad and what you say is good. I say it's better to submit to blog farms and that article directories are more for users than for search engines. You simply say, no, it's good and I'm right. Comparatively, you can get hundreds or even thousands of unique IP's from blog networks all pointing contextual backlinks to your money site. The same amount of energy expelled to do this with strictly article directories will get you maybe a few hundred backlinks, tops. Not to mention these are very obscure sites, many of which your page will never get indexed on because a lot of directories don't get crawled often enough and place these articles on hidden subdirectories that Google never seems to find. Blogs on the other hand place your content on the very first page immediately so you get credit for the backlink the moment it is there. For every article directory you can find me, I can find you 10,000 blogs, so the numbers just don't add up comparatively when you are investing money or sweat equity into this. Why work to get 100 backlinks when you can get 1,000? And submitting duplicate content to a number of sites is more or less useless. A good portion of these will not be indexed. You still get some of the credit for the backlinks, but Google takes fairly strong measures to insure that duplicate content doesn't get added to the index and won't show up in the search engines. |
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Good argument Eric, I understand where you are coming from with blog networks, I understand they ARE good for getting backlinks and giving you SEO benefits, but if you can only get 100 backlinks indexed from article marketing you aren't doing it right. I (with my team) create thousands of backlinks that get indexed each month through article marketing alone, and it's not hard. When article marketing is done correctly there is no duplicate content, therefore none of the duplicate content issues you mentioned below should occur. I have been doing a lot of split testing and can rank a webpage using article marketing alone, this (to me) shows that article marketing does have SEO benefits. - I'm not saying submitting to blog farms has not benefit but article marketing is the main reason I am able to rank my clients sites highly in the SERPs. A tip for getting your articles indexed quicker is to use an RSS aggregator. This might allow you to get more than about 100 articles indexed. |
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That makes a little more sense. I was really only talking about it in the context of what the OP mentioned. Nothing wrong with submitting unique content to these article directories. Just didn't think that was the topic of this thread. |
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EZine articles submissions is a hard job because it requires different kind of formatting.
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To each their own, but a common problem I see is people pushing this bit of information around. If it was ineffective to submit the same article to multiple directories then the concept of article syndication would be dead; and places like Ezine would hold no weight. Personally, I have a list of 10 article directories that I submit to after I post on my own site. Make a post on your own site, allow for it to get indexed, then submit the same article to your own list of directories with whatever anchor text you want pointing back to the hosting pages. Mass article distribution is another story, and I tend to stay away from it. However, a list of 5-10 viable article directories that you can syndicate your article to once it has been indexed on your own site is a fantastic way to get additional traffic, viable back links as well as additional automatic syndication (Ezine is great for this). As I said, to each their own, but I can't understand why you would want to deprive yourself of such easy back links, exposure, and supplemental traffic. | |
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For example some of these let you include anchor text links in the actual body of the article (not just resource box), some only let you include URLs in the resource box (not anchor text) and some don't even have a resource box, so you HAVE TO put your link in the body. If you use an automated software on these directories you will not get the best SEO benefits, just another tip to remember ![]() Also, spending some extra time submitting to blogs in the way Cataclysm mentions above can be great for SEO. If you do it manually you can add images, logos, and other webparts that can really attract attention to the post. This can often lead to 'votes' from the traffic on your post therefore giving you more exposure. | |
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hello there.. i'm a newbie, just wanna know if you have some tips on how would i make my site appear on google? coz im currently joining an seo contest for noobs. thanks...........
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thanks guys
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Quality matters instead of quantity. Just you have to keep in mind that submitting your article at fast approval article directories with high PR will be more beneficial for you.
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Yes, you should submit it to as many directories as possible. Of course, there are services for a small fee that will submit articles to directories for you so it doesn't have to be so incredibly time consuming.
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There are thousands of them, but I prefer a few quality article directories instead. I think it would be better to keep all items in their uniqueness, as far as possible. Providing the article in question is well written, relevant to the products or services offered on your website, and incorporates good SEO, you can rest assured that it will attract traffic from various sources. Therefore I would recommend placing each of your articles with one ezine only and then linking to your article from other locations using relevant links. This is a lot more effective and a better strategy than attempting to place the same article in every corner of the internet. |
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Submit to as much as you can and also bookmark them and place them on your own site aswell
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if possible, submit the same article to only 4 or max 5 directories.
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I didn't think that's how it worked. Is it possible to do this with Leadbolt? I know it can be done with CPAlead but I prefer Leadbolt over them.
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Please just type the following url and submit you website address Add your URL to Google |
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| i had heard this problem so many times in different forums as per my experience u can target 7 -8 article directory for article submission try to spin little bit title and content and take proper use of these site Buzzle ideamarketers articlebase articlebase articleblast ezine |
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i had heard this problem so many times in different forums as per my experience u can target 7 -8 article directory for article submission try to spin little bit title and content and take proper use of these site Buzzle ideamarketers articlebase articlebase articleblast ezine |
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I hear that spinning is a real waste of time and that you can get the same number of backlinks if you just submit the same article to multiple directories
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So don’t limit yourself when it comes to using Article Directories. You may take different approaches as well to avoid the duplicate content filter with some of your articles but go for quantity and quality. If you are submitting articles manually then there may be a limit to the number you can submit to in the space of a couple of hours. But if you get a program that takes a lot of the hard work out of submitting to these sites then you can cover a lot more ground in a much shorter amount of time. |
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Hi, Article submission is basically to get a backlinks. If you submit a article in 10 sites you could get 10 backlinks. If you submit in 1000 you could get 1000 backlinks. So it is clear...... Submit articles to as many directories as you can. Just the Article directories should be relevant. |
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If the content is duplicate, it may only show up one time, but at least you may get traffic from people browsing those directories (and possible syndication as well). Is this correct? | |
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I know there's two sides of article submissions. But after google updates I submit only unique articles to directories and then spinned versions to create backlinks to unique articles. It works very well for me. Try it. There's nothing to lose |
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I just want to add my two cents and that is none of you actually know how google operates so how do you know for certain what is effective and what is not when it comes to article submission. For every person who sais this way is better there is another saying that the other way is better. My take on it is from the google guidelines. When i apply them too article submission i think that 1. every article you submit should be diffferent ie spun. 2. don't submit same article twice to same directory. 3. submit as many different articles to as many different diretories as possible. 4. High PR article sites are better than low PR article sites |
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Only one person in this thread seems to have a basic understanding of what duplicate content actually is and how it works from Google's perspective. Obviously none of you have heard of syndication before, but according to your logic I suppose ALL news sites, aggregators, blog feeds, every syndicated piece of work EVER and every article directory in the world is only pumping out duplicate content. Right? Because that's what you're saying, even though it's total ignorant bull@#$% not based in fact whatsoever. To the original OP: 1.) Post your best extremely high quality work EXCLUSIVELY on your own website 2.) Write a 100% unique "mirror" of this article and post to as many article directories as you like, filtering for PR1 and above and a good mix of DoFollow and NoFollow. Use software if you wish- just learn how to use it RIGHT. 3.) Juice those article links with HIGH QUALITY social bookmarking and blog commenting. 3.) DON'T EVER SPIN ANYTHING EVER. Unless of course, you don't mind putting garbage out there. Think about it- these people are telling you that submitting one high quality article to many directories where the sole purpose is SYNDICATION is BAD, but spinning an article (anything but 100% original work is RUBBISH) and submitting that to just a few directories is GOOD. RIDICULOUS And to those of you saying you're successful even with your lack of correct understanding, I challenge you to research more thoroughly with credible resources and you'll see that you could be substantially more successful if you get the facts straight and take appropriate action. |
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Definitely submit it to as many as possible, the more links the merrier. If you get Article Marketing Robot for the one-time fee then it will submit it to heaps on autopilot for you.
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I agree with Russell, especially regarding content syndication. And here is a relevant article I wrote for EZA very recently with the title, " Online Marketing - Are Article Directories Good For Backlinking After The Google Update? " I stated the benefits on how viral Articles can be when they're accepted in Article Directories. And I contradicted common assumptions made by many IM'ers as a result of the latest Google Algo update. Considering "different people different experience", many may not agree with what I proposed in the article. | |
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Please,don't limit yourself in submitting your articles. Make sure the content of your articles is unique. |
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