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Old 11-21-2008, 07:58 PM   #1
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Default What's The Best Way To Tell If A Competitors Adwords Ad Is Making Money?

Real quick.

I use Spyfu for this. Is there something better?

What's the best system for determining if a competitor's ad is making money?

I don't want to assume that just because an ad is in the top position that
it's profitable.

So hit me with your best system.

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Old 11-21-2008, 09:43 PM   #2
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This was laid out in minute detail a few months ago there.

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Old 11-21-2008, 11:17 PM   #3
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I'm not sure if this will help you but WinningAdwordAds.com and Compete.com have worked well for me.

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Old 11-22-2008, 03:17 PM   #5
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I can see how that could add up pretty quickly.
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:20 PM   #6
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Old 11-23-2008, 07:47 PM   #7
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Default Re: What's The Best Way To Tell If A Competitors Adwords Ad Is Making Money?

Another way is to use Project 5 in Keyword Elite, punch in the keywords you want, and the site you want to analyze, let it run for about a week and it'll tell you if they dropped the keyword or kept it.

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I was kinda expecting this post to be some tutorial, guess I was wrong...

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Old 11-24-2008, 07:19 AM   #9
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Another way is to use Project 5 in Keyword Elite, punch in the keywords you want, and the site you want to analyze, let it run for about a week and it'll tell you if they dropped the keyword or kept it.
That's exactly what I was thinking Loz. The best way to tell if an ad is making money is to see how long it stays. If it's up for any reasonable length of time, you can pretty much bet that it's making money somehow.

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That's exactly what I was thinking Loz. The best way to tell if an ad is making money is to see how long it stays. If it's up for any reasonable length of time, you can pretty much bet that it's making money somehow.
I dunno

You could also assume that the ad is getting a ton of impressions but no clicks. If this were the case, the publisher may leave the ad running as it's not costing them any money (but not making any either).
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That's exactly what I was thinking Loz. The best way to tell if an ad is making money is to see how long it stays. If it's up for any reasonable length of time, you can pretty much bet that it's making money somehow.
Not true. It could be somebody who doesn't know what they're doing, it could be someone who does know what they are doing but is in research/data gathering phase or it could be just about anything. You could use it as an indicator but you aren't guaranteed anything.

The only way to know for sure is to clone and watch like I said unless you can peek into someone's Adwords account and affiliate stats.

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I can see how that could add up pretty quickly.
Well, the question was what's the best way not what's the cheapest or free way. You'd spend money taking a chance on an original campaign, too so what's the big difference. You're gonna spend money and you may or may not make a profit either way and if you do make a profit what's the problem?

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Old 11-25-2008, 01:49 PM   #13
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I thought you already knew that since you use SpyFu. The tool in that thread doesn't seem to be working anymore.

It's still not the best way. Unless best means balance between "knowing" and spending as little as possible.

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Old 11-25-2008, 01:57 PM   #14
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I agree in using compete.com .. it will help a lot in monitoring your competitors keywords.. one thing for sure, if your competitor is using a certain keyword for a long time then it is where they are reaping profits from..
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and to speed things up, use ppc web spy

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That's exactly what I was thinking Loz. The best way to tell if an ad is making money is to see how long it stays. If it's up for any reasonable length of time, you can pretty much bet that it's making money somehow.

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Affiliate Espionage is good one and it's cheap! (no, it's not the tool in my sig!)
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