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Old 12-18-2010, 10:47 PM   #1
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My top Competitor Has a PR5 Wikipedia Link.

Is there any way I can get one too?

How powerful are these?

How does one get one?
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:16 PM   #2
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Yes, even the links from wikipedia are nofollow, they still pass through a huge amount of trust scores. You can get one by making your own page, or trying to contribute to the same page where your competitor is linking from. But be sure that you offer them value, to increase your chances of being listed as a reference for the page. It's best that you create a highly informative content that has the sole intent of getting listed to wikipedia pages.

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Old 12-18-2010, 11:34 PM   #3
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Do you know anyone that specializes in this? Are there any people that do this as a service?
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:42 PM   #4
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If it's just a reference link you can add your own as well. Or you can even remove their link...

Perhaps an attic I shall seek.
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Don't let one pr5 back-link stand in your way. Its really not that hard to negate that link, fire up a program like SEnuke or scrape-box and get yourself a lot of high quality links, or simply just a lot of links. You will surpass him soon enough; if you spend all your time and effort on getting 1 Wikipedia link, or getting rid of his you will have likely wasted your entire time.

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Old 12-18-2010, 11:51 PM   #6
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I have 1500 and he has about 400, and I have equal high PR ones as him but he has those wiki links, and domain age.

I think his site provides a better user experience, as mine is a tacky sales pitch..
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If it's just a reference link you can add your own as well. Or you can even remove their link...
I've tried that one out before, your links will just be removed. Your competitors are monitoring their strong links (since I as well check mine), so it's best to deliver quality content for resource/reference for the link to be qualified.

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However wikipedia links are nofollow and they don't juice pagerank, but they are powerful backlinks and you can make your wikipedia page too and try to promote it. Then maybe other websites link to this page. Also note that this link is not the only reason that you competitor ranks probably higher than your site. I think his website has many other quality backlinks and you should check them too.

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I've tried that one out before, your links will just be removed. Your competitors are monitoring their strong links (since I as well check mine), so it's best to deliver quality content for resource/reference for the link to be qualified.
I'm definitely not the spokesperson for quality content, but we have Wikipedia links coming to a simple article about fitness equipment that cost us $5. In fact, one of our competitors tried to remove the link, and then a Wikipedia admin actually reversed the decision and put our link back on.

I would say at that time, although the article was pretty good... The site user experience couldn't have been more than a 6/10.

If I was you, I'd tighten up the sales pitch a bit and make it look better & then add an Articles section on your website.

When you add an article, just put a link at the bottom if you want them to return to your sales pitch. Then look up the relevant Wikipedia page to your article and link them directly to the article page.
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:48 AM   #10
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I'm definitely not the spokesperson for quality content, but we have Wikipedia links coming to a simple article about fitness equipment that cost us $5. In fact, one of our competitors tried to remove the link, and then a Wikipedia admin actually reversed the decision and put our link back on.

I would say at that time, although the article was pretty good... The site user experience couldn't have been more than a 6/10.

If I was you, I'd tighten up the sales pitch a bit and make it look better & then add an Articles section on your website.

When you add an article, just put a link at the bottom if you want them to return to your sales pitch. Then look up the relevant Wikipedia page to your article and link them directly to the article page.
That's exactly my point, you don't actually need an extremely exceptional content to get listed there, you just have to offer some value, especially if your topic relates to the targeted wikipedia page. And it's far best to offer a content page URL as the reference rather than the homepage itself, since it will be obvious that the link's intention is just for the link acquisition to fetch trust from wikipedia's domain.

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Old 12-19-2010, 12:51 AM   #11
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Wikipedia top prior pages cannot be done with this all you need to do is it contribute and even its nofollow you can get some good scores out of it.

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I've tried that one out before, your links will just be removed. Your competitors are monitoring their strong links (since I as well check mine), so it's best to deliver quality content for resource/reference for the link to be qualified.
It always works fine for me, you just have to be subtle. Then again, I've been contributing to Wikipedia for a long time.

If necessary, you can write a ≈1000 word article offsite, citing a whole bunch of references and then using that as a Wikipedia reference (for more than one wiki page).

Remember that when you're modifying Wikipedia in this way, make more than one change, so that it doesn't seem like you're just editing one in/out one link. Add some genuine information to the article.

Really contribute: that's how you get Wikipedia links.

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It always works fine for me, you just have to be subtle. Then again, I've been contributing to Wikipedia for a long time.

If necessary, you can write a ≈1000 word article offsite, citing a whole bunch of references and then using that as a Wikipedia reference (for more than one wiki page).

Remember that when you're modifying Wikipedia in this way, make more than one change, so that it doesn't seem like you're just editing one in/out one link. Add some genuine information to the article.

Really contribute: that's how you get Wikipedia links.
Good point here, one thing I forgot to mention is we actually added a section to the Wikipedia page regarding the topic of our article with a little blurb.

"Really contributed" , I guess you could call it that
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Good point here, one thing I forgot to mention is we actually added a section to the Wikipedia page regarding the topic of our article with a little blurb.

"Really contributed" , I guess you could call it that
"Be subtle" is another key phrase that I'd like to emphasize again (:

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I have several wikipedia links for our sites. And I can definately say, that you WILL get a lot of targetted traffic through the links.

As for a huge change in your SERP, since they are no follow you won't get as much as if it had been a dofollow link. But they are still good to have in your arsenal, and I would encourage you to get one if you can.

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I am planning to create links on wikipedia. And I will follow those thoughts you have shared on this thread. If i'm not mistaken, all i need to do is to update the current information and add my site on its reference plus link other information on wikipedia alone.

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Old 12-19-2010, 03:35 AM   #17
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It always works fine for me, you just have to be subtle. Then again, I've been contributing to Wikipedia for a long time.

If necessary, you can write a ≈1000 word article offsite, citing a whole bunch of references and then using that as a Wikipedia reference (for more than one wiki page).

Remember that when you're modifying Wikipedia in this way, make more than one change, so that it doesn't seem like you're just editing one in/out one link. Add some genuine information to the article.

Really contribute: that's how you get Wikipedia links.
Contribute genuinely. that's the perfect term

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