Domain name trick(?)

[paulgl]

I know a lot of you are very fond of domain name matches, even though
I see a ton of big sites ignoring this. Like zoosk.com. Anyway, I just
came across a site that takes this to the max. They triple the keyword.
In other words, they are into a fish site, so they have fish-fish-fish dot com.

What do you think of triplicating or duplicating? I was thinking of something
on the order of studentloans-studentloans.com (seems to be available)

If you think you get some push via domain name, why not take it one
step further, especially if your chosen domain is taken?

I think twitter-twitter-twitter.com is available. What do you think of this
nonsense idea?

Paul

[flowers4love]

Originally Posted by paulgl

Anyway, I just
came across a site that takes this to the max. They triple the keyword.
In other words, they are into a fish site, so they have fish-fish-fish dot com.

Thank you, Paul, for sharing this wonderful information. You've definitely given me a lead here. You can create names that rhyme like silly-hilly-billy.com or crazy-lazy-daisy.com. It's a well known fact that a domain name is a central factor in a marketing niche. When you find a winner name for your niche, then you've got already half the job done.

[CoolAromas]

I think repetition in the domain is more for being catchy and easy to remember, IMHO, rather than being sexy to Google.

[JMichaelZ]

It might work with single words, but probably not so much with a phrase. And it sounds a bit silly. Not a bad idea in some markets, but in others might actually work against you. Like who would want informtiaon from a site named

cremation-cremation.com

[paulgl]

Originally Posted by JMichaelZ

cremation-cremation.com

That's funny! Maybe not intentional... I just thought, too, that many times
it is common to say words twice to emphasize degree.

Done? Or done done!

Paul

[mojojuju]

Originally Posted by paulgl

They triple the keyword.
In other words, they are into a fish site, so they have fish-fish-fish dot com.

While they're triplicating keywords, I'm totally outranking them with my quadruplicated keyword domains.

e.g. fish-fish-fish-fish.fish

As you can see, I also registered that one with the .fish TLD. It makes a big difference.

[ViralSO-CEO]

Stay away from using a company's name or product name within the domain name. You will get a letter and an email from their legal department ordering you to give up the domain name, and you will have to do the work in transferring it back to them.

[catchingeye]

Well it might work OR it can be a complete bad idea. But thanks for this, I will surely try this once I have time.

Originally Posted by paulgl

I know a lot of you are very fond of domain name matches, even though
I see a ton of big sites ignoring this. Like zoosk.com. Anyway, I just
came across a site that takes this to the max. They triple the keyword.
In other words, they are into a fish site, so they have fish-fish-fish dot com.

What do you think of triplicating or duplicating? I was thinking of something
on the order of studentloans-studentloans.com (seems to be available)

If you think you get some push via domain name, why not take it one
step further, especially if your chosen domain is taken?

I think twitter-twitter-twitter.com is available. What do you think of this
nonsense idea?

Paul

[Lee MacRae]

This is a trick tried by others in the past and can work BUT...google can tag it as related to keyword stuffing....this refers to the practice of loading a webpage with keywords in an attempt to manipulate a site's ranking in Google's search results...and that IS why you are doing it in the url right?. You can go for it but be prepared to lose your rankings or your site in the indexes if your competition reports you and google decides against you.

[Az Ozegbe]

Whether a domain is long or short,to me,it is not necessary.What matters more is
the quality of the product or service the domain is promoting.

Anyway people prefer when the domain is shorter,or maybe shorter.See how many
people visit Google,Facebook,Yahoo,MSN,Twitter,etc on a daily basis.Do you think
if WarriorForum.com is WarriorForum-WarriorForum-WarriorForum.com,would you
have been finding pleasure in visiting it on a daily basis?

A short domain does not only make your site likable and look unique but it also shows professionalism.

People don't have much time to waste.Give them what they want and give it to
them as fast as you can.And one of such ways to give it to them fast is by making
your domain as short as possible.

To our success
Az.

[paulgl]

Hey this thread was started in jest, actually. Brand names are allowed in
domains all the time. It's how you use them that matters. Hence Joel Comm
user adsense in many domains. But that's besides the point. If
studentloans.com matters for keywords, then studentloans-studentloans.com
should be a viable alternative. And even in triplicate up to the max characters
in a domain. If not, then one must use caution about any push using keywords
in a domain. If that logic holds, then fish-fish-fish would win over anyone with
just fish-fish.com.

How about fishing-fished-fish.com ? That should really reel 'em in!

Paul

[LiamP]

Google are always looking to promote themselves, and their engineers are very clever, so I think they probably have some kind of sycophancy detector that gives bonus points.

fish-google-is-awesome-fish.com could be a real catch!

[yukon]

Originally Posted by paulgl

I know a lot of you are very fond of domain name matches, even though
I see a ton of big sites ignoring this. Like zoosk.com. Anyway, I just
came across a site that takes this to the max. They triple the keyword.
In other words, they are into a fish site, so they have fish-fish-fish dot com.

What do you think of triplicating or duplicating? I was thinking of something
on the order of studentloans-studentloans.com (seems to be available)

If you think you get some push via domain name, why not take it one
step further, especially if your chosen domain is taken?

I think twitter-twitter-twitter.com is available. What do you think of this
nonsense idea?

Paul

I realize your making fun of EMDs, but the truth is they work.

You already know for a fact that any keyword in a url is better than some random text/numbers. The reason I say that you already know this is, you have keywords in every single url in your WF Sig.

1) /electricsocks

2) /tuition-free-colleges

3) /how-to-be-a-teacher

4) /buy-cheaptextbooks

Sure the above isn't EMD, still it's an extension of a URL & includes keywords no matter If it's before or after the TLD.

The non-EMDs that you keep pointing out are ranking on other authority factors. We know Ebay, Amazon, Apple, Zoosk, etc... all rank on non-EMD names, it's no secret.

In fact I'm sure a new non-EMD that will some day rank very high in the SERPs, is created each & every day.

Still, EMDs have their place on the net. Most times they will rank easier from the start.

An EMD isn't a fix all, they will rank for the exact match & not much more (starting out). They also will need the same support as any other domain name, backlinks, etc...

BTW, fishing-fished-fish.com isn't that bad.

Example:
Who do you think is more popular around the world, a restaurant in Virginia or Dr. Seuss (One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish)?

[paulgl]

Well, one fish two fish is a tricky example, as that's a very
popular book. Since I was a kid. Probably many searching for one fish
two fish, maybe even add red fish blue fish I think those folks and
the restaurant made a sly choice.

Just in fun really, but also giving people more options when they say
they just can't get the right domain. Think outside the box.

I pick domains for people, not search engines. Do a search for electric
socks, the only url in the top 10 with electric socks is the squidoo page.
And that's not in the domain. So, out of the top 10, electric socks in a domain
does not win. Even with quotes. Does not even show up. I think the domain
is owned by thunderbolt, the industry leader. But thunderbolt.com takes
the prize.

Paul

[Mehak]

Although it would be good for seo terms having a domain with a company name however we need to remember to be professional the same time so people take us seriously. Personally I wouldn't go for a rhyming domain because I don't think people would even think of looking it up unless you have done marketing. So I think the bottom line is we need to do our marketing correctly and have a professional yet somehow related domain.
All the best guys

[yukon]

Originally Posted by paulgl

Well, one fish two fish is a tricky example, as that's a very
popular book. Since I was a kid. Probably many searching for one fish
two fish, maybe even add red fish blue fish I think those folks and
the restaurant made a sly choice.

Just in fun really, but also giving people more options when they say
they just can't get the right domain. Think outside the box.

I pick domains for people, not search engines. Do a search for electric
socks, the only url in the top 10 with electric socks is the squidoo page.
And that's not in the domain. So, out of the top 10, electric socks in a domain
does not win. Even with quotes. Does not even show up. I think the domain
is owned by thunderbolt, the industry leader. But thunderbolt.com takes
the prize.

Paul

I agree, domain name choices are unlimited.

The way I pick my own domain name is,

1) I have a single root keyword (for the search engines) that's it nothing else.

2) Start adding a 2nd word behind the root keyword for people.

3) I never use domain name tools, I think they record those searches (I would), & try to boost their profit. I simply use my browser search bar, If the domain name I'm checking doesn't return any website than chances are that domain is available to buy ($10).

4) I narrow everything down to 3 possible/similar domain names (step #3), in case 1 or 2 isn't available to buy when I'm ready to purchase.

The shortest domain name I have is a single word, the longest is 3 words, most average 2 words.