do these statistics match up? are they viable

[charlotte.edwards]

Hi All,

I am very new to this Internet Marketing thing! and have been lurking on the warrior forum of late. I have been buying a few WSO's and have a basic idea of some internet marketing strategies.

My aim for the next few months is to put all of the theory i have learnt to practice and build a small wordpress site and see how much success i can have with this site through CPA offers....and then replicate this success and have a few income generating websites.

I am confused about finding that keyword and domain to match. and was wondering if you could tell me if i am on the right track with this:

I have a niche i am looking to get into.

*According to the google keyword tool there are 6,600 searches for the keyword each month.

*The .info domain name is available for this exact keyword.

*(Its four words long, but seeing as its getting the searches in google i dont see this as a problem)

*when i type in allintitle: plus my keywords into google this brings up 1,100 results.


Does this seem like a viable keyword and strategy to follow, is there a possibilty with dedication that i could get my domain into the first page and even make a few dollars every month.

Do these figures and statistics match up.

Thanks would appreciate some feedback

charlotte x

[charlotte.edwards]

Forgot to mention that the dotcom for this keyword is taken but is a parked domain, completely inactive, and i think the dotinfo is just as good as dotcom for ranking as far as i have been told.

charlotte x

[charlotte.edwards]

Originally Posted by Waddle

1) Google keyword tool is inflated, divide by 3 to get a more realistic idea of the number of searches.

2) .infos are hard to rank (if you want proof, just look at the search results for any semi-competitive keyword, and see how many .infos you see ranking), you want .com/.net/.org unless you're going for local search traffic, in which case buy the regional equivalent.

3) your rankings are primarily determined by backlinks, not your domain name.

Hi thanks for the reply, if i had a keyword which did received the 6k true searches would this be deemd a good keyword choice if there were only 1k competing sites? Just to give me an idea of the contrast of figures which i should be looking for?

Also i have been reading up mostly on the forum for the ast few days and i thought most peaople were of the opinion that .info was just as good as .com (and cheaper) can anyone else clarify the confusion here?

[Kevin_Hutto]

.com, .net and .org are given some preferential treatment in the serps by google. It seems that no other extensions are given the same preference.

[oneplusone]

Originally Posted by Waddle

1) Google keyword tool is inflated, divide by 3 to get a more realistic idea of the number of searches.

2) .infos are hard to rank (if you want proof, just look at the search results for any semi-competitive keyword, and see how many .infos you see ranking), you want .com/.net/.org unless you're going for local search traffic, in which case buy the regional equivalent.

3) your rankings are primarily determined by backlinks, not your domain name.

No disrespect, but this isn't very good advice.

I'm eating chicken wings, so I'm unable to correct some of your advice at the moment as I don't want my keyboard getting greasy

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by oneplusone

No disrespect, but this isn't very good advice.

That's putting it very mildly indeed.

I'm not eating chicken wings, but am too tired and fed up of arguing with people who believe nonsense like that to say too much more about the post, for now.

The .info domain-name will be fine, Charlotte.

Domain extensions don't affect SEO at all.

Matt Cutts from Google says so, at every possible opportunity. He says it in writing and on video and on his blog and on Google's blog. He says it until he's blue in the face, and he invites people to quote him on it. There have always been, and always will be, people who imagine that .com, .net and .org have some kind of SEO advantage, but people who have actually tested it for themselves know otherwise.

It's true that fewer .info domains rank at the top of Google. (Some do). The reason for that is that some (many?) people who want to rank at the top of Google SERP's don't use .info domain names, so there are fewer of them there. And that's what it's evidence of. It isn't evidence that .info domains are harder to rank, because they're not. In other words, correlation is not causation.

What matters, for you, is to have a look at the quality of the SEO of the top 5 sites sites that rank for that search-term. Can you beat them, or not? You have only 5 competitors for that search-term, and those are the 5. It makes no difference of they're followed by 995 others or 9,999,995 others - those are still the 5 with which you're competing for your ranking. If they're age-old authority sites with a million backlinks each, that's not so good. If they look "easy", then don't worry.

Originally Posted by oneplusone

I'm eating chicken wings

Better than them eating your wings, I suppose ...

Originally Posted by charlotte.edwards

if i had a keyword which did received the 6k true searches would this be deemd a good keyword choice if there were only 1k competing sites?

It doesn't matter how many competing sites there are.

All that matters (to you) is how good the SEO is for the top 5 or so. You have to get in among those (or beat them).

[Frank Donovan]

Hi Charlotte,

Those search figures may appear promising, but you also need to be sure that you've chosen a buying keyword i.e. one with reasonable commercial intent.

Ask yourself if people typing in that keyword are doing so with a purchase (or any likely activity you'd prefer) in mind.

As far as .info TLDs are concerned, you should ignore any advice that claims they're somehow 'penalised' in the SERPS. There may be several reasons to opt for one of the 'Big Three' TLDs where possible, but SEO ain't one of them.


Frank

EDIT: + what 'lightning fingers' Alexa said

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by Waddle

Spoken like someone who's never done real automated search spam and seen results over thousands of domains.

Speaking as someone who has worked on the development teams of four search engines:

There is no search engine out there which gives a flying leap what the TLD of your site happens to be.

It's not even part of the ranking algorithms. Never has been.

[oneplusone]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Speaking as someone who has worked on the development teams of four search engines:

There is no search engine out there which gives a flying leap what the TLD of your site happens to be.

It's not even part of the ranking algorithms. Never has been.

I agree, although many self-proclaimed SEO experts keep pushing the myth.

And they use all sorts of BS to try and justify their theories.

One of the most idiotic tests I've seen on TLDs is here:

Do different TLD's affect SEO?

You've got to laugh

[oneplusone]

Waddle, I think you need to give it a rest dude

I wasn't attacking you personally, was just saying what you posted was bad advice IMO.

If you want to believe that Matt Cutts is a liar, and .info, .biz domains are harder to rank that is your choice.

I know there are sites and forums where people believe this kind of stuff, but I don't buy into it.

For your .information, I have a colleague who buys .info domains regularly, and he has no problem ranking on the first page for many very competitive keywords.

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by Waddle

No offense, but if you were really ever a search engineer on any major engine, you wouldn't be reduced to hocking stuff on WF.

No offense, but IM is a relationship business, and you're not exactly winning friends and influencing people so far.

[charlotte.edwards]

Ok everyone, thanks for your posts, its 1.45am here and was out for a few drinks, so sorry that i am only getting back to you all now.

So can any one confirm to me what waddle said to me is true?;

do you really divide the search results you get with the google keywords tool by 3 to gte an accurate reflection of the actual number of people searching for that keyword, So although my keyword search sayes that my keyword recieves 6000 searches, does it in reality recieve only 2000 searches???

I am pretty set on the .info domain by now according to the responses i have got in this post. So thank you all.

So is the strategy i have inplace viable, are the statistics viable?

Thnaks everyone.

[charlotte.edwards]

So can somone confirm that google addwords too is wrong?and out by two thirds?

[charlotte.edwards]

Ok well thanks all for the partaking in this thread!

I would again realyy appreciate it of someone could review the folloing and confirm that the below strategy seems plausable:


*According to the google keyword tool there are 6,600 searches for the keyword each month.

*The .info domain name is available for this exact keyword.

*(Its four words long, but seeing as its getting the searches in google i dont see this as a problem)

*when i type in allintitle: plus my keywords into google this brings up 1,100 results.


Shouldi set upa website under the domain of the keyword?

[charlotte.edwards]

if anyone could give me any insight into the above thread re: choosing keywords, i would be very grateful.

charlotte x

[MartynM]

I have been reading this thread with great interest. I am fairly new & have spent lots of time reading through this forum & up until this point was under the impression that .info,.biz etc did not rank that well compared to the mainstays .com,.org,.net.

Now it seems this is not so! I have recently invested in Market Samurai & have been finding some great keywords fitting my criteria. But all the com,.org,.net domains have gone including those using hyphens. But .biz,.info´s etc are still available.

This information now makes me think I should go for them.

Can I ask Alexa & the boys if they have personally built sites using these domains?

Thanks Martyn..

PS MERRY CHRISTMAS