Your opinions about flash impact on bots and serp

Jamie Gillam · 12-26-2010, 04:50 AM

Couple years back I was told, "never put any flash on your site because the bots can't or won't enter to review." But what's going on today? There's so much flash - swf, flv, etc. on sites now I would think the search engines have moved on.
I don't mean the completely all-flash sites, I just mean using flash elements on the page. We have a new flash header on our Joomla home page along with other extensions and players, etc. throughout the website.
What's your opinion about this?
Thanks so much, Warriors!

NiyazK · 12-26-2010, 05:31 AM

they have changed as well i guess.. check the web 2.0
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EDIT: here is the way u view a wix.com page as googlerobot
http://www.smart-it-consulting.com/i...2Fsimcoe%2Fjay

So i think it has not changed

DJ DeMarco · 12-26-2010, 05:42 AM

Maybe search engine already change their bot configuration, because a lot of web specially web 2.0 style is using flash at their pages

paulgl · 12-26-2010, 06:05 AM

Maybe places like facebook use flash because they want to avoid spam.
Anyway, the real links on facebook are nofollow anyway, flash is never seen.

Google claims to be able to read text in flash, but one must ask oneself:
For what reason? Just because?

Even google tells you to have text, text, and more text.

The best practice would be to not rely on flash. Web 2.0 creators
and operators are not there to help you spam links. Most of the
ones that matter allow links that are nofollow.

Facebook is a moot point. Even if the link could be read by some bot,
which I am almost sure it could not in that case, a wall posted link
would never even be crawled by google if it's on a facebook page
behind a login. Not all facebook pages are open to search engines.

Now before people scream, yes, I do think facebook links have some
value. Just not to bots.

Paul

dadamson · 12-26-2010, 06:19 AM

Great answer Paul!

Agreed completely, flash elements are fine to use but ensure the rest of the page is optimized.

12-26-2010, 04:50 AM	#1
Jamie Gillam Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Your opinions about flash impact on bots and serp Couple years back I was told, "never put any flash on your site because the bots can't or won't enter to review." But what's going on today? There's so much flash - swf, flv, etc. on sites now I would think the search engines have moved on. I don't mean the completely all-flash sites, I just mean using flash elements on the page. We have a new flash header on our Joomla home page along with other extensions and players, etc. throughout the website. What's your opinion about this? Thanks so much, Warriors!
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12-26-2010, 05:31 AM	#2
NiyazK HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 109 Thanks: 24 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Your opinions about flash impact on bots and serp they have changed as well i guess.. check the web 2.0 Free Website Builder \| Create a Flash Website at Wix.com EDIT: here is the way u view a wix.com page as googlerobot http://www.smart-it-consulting.com/i...2Fsimcoe%2Fjay So i think it has not changed
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12-26-2010, 05:42 AM	#3
DJ DeMarco HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 127 Thanks: 13 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Your opinions about flash impact on bots and serp Maybe search engine already change their bot configuration, because a lot of web specially web 2.0 style is using flash at their pages
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12-26-2010, 06:05 AM	#4
paulgl Plundering the Web War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 4,849 Thanks: 804 Thanked 1,199 Times in 886 Posts	Re: Your opinions about flash impact on bots and serp Maybe places like facebook use flash because they want to avoid spam. Anyway, the real links on facebook are nofollow anyway, flash is never seen. Google claims to be able to read text in flash, but one must ask oneself: For what reason? Just because? Even google tells you to have text, text, and more text. The best practice would be to not rely on flash. Web 2.0 creators and operators are not there to help you spam links. Most of the ones that matter allow links that are nofollow. Facebook is a moot point. Even if the link could be read by some bot, which I am almost sure it could not in that case, a wall posted link would never even be crawled by google if it's on a facebook page behind a login. Not all facebook pages are open to search engines. Now before people scream, yes, I do think facebook links have some value. Just not to bots. Paul
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12-26-2010, 06:19 AM	#5
dadamson SEO Enthusiast War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 1,843 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 52 Thanked 345 Times in 262 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Your opinions about flash impact on bots and serp Great answer Paul! Agreed completely, flash elements are fine to use but ensure the rest of the page is optimized.
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