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Old 01-03-2011, 09:43 PM   #1
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so one of my sites has made it to the first page of Google. It's on the very bottom of the page. however, at least its there. No sales at this point? What does this mean? Should I celebrate because I am on the first page or give up on this particular site because I'm on the first page, but I'm not making any sales?

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Old 01-03-2011, 09:45 PM   #2
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Keep building links, get it to the top. You'll start to see sales, just watch.

Also, if you don't mind sharing what niche it is that'd be great. Because that could also depend on why you haven't seen any sales just yet.
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Old 01-03-2011, 09:50 PM   #3
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u other guys think so too?

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Default Re: So I'm on the Bottom of the First Page of Google: Celebrate?

When you are getting traffic, and converting some of those visitors to buyers, then go grab a steak.

After dinner, get back to work and strengthen your ranking on that one keyword phrase, and start branching out to get traffic from other keywords and sources as well.

When you have reached your target income level, then celebrate, but keep your nose to the grindstone.

You will discover as many of us have that your target income goals are a moving target.

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Getting there is certainly an accomplishment, assuming the phrase your site is there for is a worthwhile phrase. You can do more of what you did to get there to keep climbing the rankings, but before you do take another look at the keyword/phrase you rank for to try to determine if it's something that will bring buyers to your site.

I recommend rewarding yourself appropriately for reaching your goals or milestones. Creating a cycle of goal setting and achievement followed by an appropriate reward will lead you to more success.

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Old 01-03-2011, 10:12 PM   #6
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ok.....so no ones' saying I should stop because I am not making any sales....

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Old 01-03-2011, 10:15 PM   #7
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Default Re: So I'm on the Bottom of the First Page of Google: Celebrate?

No you shouldn't, continue to push your site higher up the page, as the first few hits are the ones getting the majority of traffic.
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Default Re: So I'm on the Bottom of the First Page of Google: Celebrate?

Not yet.

More than 70% of searchers only look at the top 3 results.

The question is how much traffic you are getting at your current level.

If you had said that I have so far gotten 500 visitors from Google, and I still have no sales on a product priced under $50, then I would definitely say stop and figure out the problem.

But Dennis is giving you good advice.

Have you used the Google External Keyword Tool to see if people are actually looking for your ranking keyword? adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

If no one is looking for your target search phrase, then you are probably better to stop now and re-analyze your most important keywords.

If people are searching for that phrase, then stay your course, but always diversify your traffic sources.

If you don't diversify, one change in Google can break your financial back in a day.

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Stick with it. I'd be celebrating if I were you.

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Not yet.

More than 70% of searchers only look at the top 3 results.

The question is how much traffic you are getting at your current level.

If you had said that I have so far gotten 500 visitors from Google, and I still have no sales on a product priced under $50, then I would definitely say stop and figure out the problem.

But Dennis is giving you good advice.

Have you used the Google External Keyword Tool to see if people are actually looking for your ranking keyword? adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

If no one is looking for your target search phrase, then you are probably better to stop now and re-analyze your most important keywords.

If people are searching for that phrase, then stay your course, but always diversify your traffic sources.

If you don't diversify, one change in Google can break your financial back in a day.

ok great this sounds good. i will stay the course. Hopefully, pretty soon I will start seeing some real money from this stuff.

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Celebrate, after that work your way to the top!

Buy WSO for like 7,000 profile links service for that keyword that is responsible for the first page appearance.

Then go celebrate again when you reach first spot. The Sales will come... but double check what process you have in your sales page.

such as:
1. are the purchasing links working?
2. are you clear with what you offer?
3. is what you offer what your market really need or just some additional accessories/lavish spending for them?

those might be your REAL issue why youre not selling.

Repair those step.

When you make a sale, then go Celebrate again!

P.S : Again what Bill is suggesting and Dennis says is crucial in determining are you working on the right keywords.

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Keep on building different kinds of links to the page...It's more true than ever that link diversity is important to Google (and therefore needs to be important to you and me!). Even for competitive, commercial keywords, the bottom of page one won't get you too far... unless of course you are ranking with dozens of longtails on the bottom of page one.

As tpw mentioned, the majority of searchers only click through the first 3 results (about 42% for position one alone, and then it drops off from there)...

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kea, please reread tpw and dennis' posts. There are infinitely many first pages. It's imperative you understand the popularity of the keyword.
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Don't give up, anyway not yet. If you can make it to the top and remain there for a couple of weeks and even months and still no sales then maybe you should rethink your strategies. But for now you should be happy for that achievement "page rank" and work towards the other "sales".
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Default Re: So I'm on the Bottom of the First Page of Google: Celebrate?

there are multiple reasons for why you are not making sales.It may be either wrong targeted keywords, your website is not interesting , your prices are more, your products are not convincing or some other terms of business. You can check the nos. of visitors per day , if they have increased drastically and then no sale means you focus on the other reasons ,i mentioned other than wrong targeted keyword.

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Default Re: So I'm on the Bottom of the First Page of Google: Celebrate?

Don't celebrate just yet, you should aim for the one of the coveted top 3 spots on Google to get maximum exposure. Keep building backlinks and insert additional keyword rich content into your website, if possible.

This is the time to start determining whether your website converts your visitors to sales and/or opt-ins effectively, now that you're getting some traffic. Monitor your traffic statistics and your conversions on a consistent basis, and don't forget to start split testing so that you can tweak your webpage for better conversions.

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ok....it does seem as though traffic has increased but my bounce rate is 80 percent..

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Default Re: So I'm on the Bottom of the First Page of Google: Celebrate?

Same here, I just got to the bottom of the first page for a keyword I started promoting less than two weeks ago. No sale yet but I'll crawl to the top and stay there no matter what.

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I ever reached page 1 of the google too..around the 4th place,,however i didnt earn a dime at all.=(

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ok....it does seem as though traffic has increased but my bounce rate is 80 percent..

Bounce Rates average as a rule between 70% and 90%.

For those who do not know what a Bounce Rate is -- most people land on a website and leave again in less than 15 seconds.

If your Bounce Rate is 80%, I would not worry about that just yet. That generally takes a lot of trial and error to troubleshoot, but you need some decent traffic to see good samples, so that you can know the real value of any changes your make.

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Hi guys,
so one of my sites has made it to the first page of Google. It's on the very bottom of the page. however, at least its there. No sales at this point? What does this mean? Should I celebrate because I am on the first page or give up on this particular site because I'm on the first page, but I'm not making any sales?
You're not going to get much traffic at all for most keywords in the bottom of the first page.

It means you have to continue working, but the good thing is that you're close.

Put your focus now on obtaining high quality links. Additionally, analyse the linking patterns of the sites above you and try and copy as many of the links they already have.

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Get that site to #1 man! Don't celebrate yet, keep working at it.

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Keep building links, get it to the top. You'll start to see sales, just watch.

Also, if you don't mind sharing what niche it is that'd be great. Because that could also depend on why you haven't seen any sales just yet.
I'm thinking it's in the Sig... (the heater site) sitting at #10 in the SERPs.

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I am right their with you. I am in the 7-10 range for a few keywords for the same site. It was a site I created several months ago and kind of set it and forgot it. Time to do a little real SEO and try to push it up. But it only gets about 75 visitors a month and no sales right now.

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