Do you pick a product first or a keyword first?

Neil M · 01-06-2011, 06:11 PM

When planning a site that you want to rank for in google do you first pick a keyword and try to match affiliate products to it? Or do you find a product first and then find keywords that you think you can rank for? I have heard of different methods and was just wondering what you warriors think about it.

bigcat1967 · 01-06-2011, 06:18 PM

I find the product first and then do a KW analysis. Always start w/ long tailed KWs

Neil M · 01-06-2011, 06:22 PM

What is the best tool for getting accurate data on long tails?...I can't seem to get much off of google keyword tool.

margotoliver · 01-06-2011, 09:00 PM

Check out Market Samurai , they have free 10 day trial period, it is so much more than a keyword research tool....but find your product first and then do you keyword research.

Neil M · 01-06-2011, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by margotoliver

Check out Market Samurai , they have free 10 day trial period, it is so much more than a keyword research tool....but find your product first and then do you keyword research.

Hey thanks margo...

One question I have is what if you find a product that you really want to promote and you can't find any good keywords that you can rank for? Do you just look for a different product?

tennisconnexion · 01-06-2011, 09:49 PM

Pick the product first and then analysis the keyword related to that product.

Bingo123 · 01-07-2011, 09:33 AM

I always go for the product first. It's no good having keywords if you can't find something to sell with them. Once I'm happy that I have a good product that is already selling, I will then use a keyword tool to look for keywords related to it. 9 times out of 10 you will find something that will work for you. It may not always be the keywords you want, but there are plenty of long tail keywords out there than can earn you some good money.

TZ · 01-07-2011, 09:51 AM

Product first.....yes, BUT don't use keyword tools for anything more than give you a GENERAL idea of what your post titles are going to be.

Remember that there are ALLOT of other marketers making decisions based on the keyword tools.

The most powerful thing we ever did was base our domain decisions based on common sense and not keyword tools.

For example: No keyword tools will tell you the BOBCAT SKID STEER TRACK PART is a good keyword, but that one keyword has been making a nice little 2-5 dollars a day in Adsense for 4 years.

Think of the unusual and you will prosper.

Fitzwise · 01-07-2011, 10:22 AM

Pick the product first. It is much easier tham to find keywords instead of spending all the time to find the right keywords than you have to spend more time looking for a product to fit those words

01-06-2011, 06:11 PM	#1
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Neil M HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 242 Thanks: 41 Thanked 54 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Do you pick a product first or a keyword first? What is the best tool for getting accurate data on long tails?...I can't seem to get much off of google keyword tool.
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margotoliver Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Franklin,TN Posts: 57 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 11 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Do you pick a product first or a keyword first? Check out Market Samurai , they have free 10 day trial period, it is so much more than a keyword research tool....but find your product first and then do you keyword research.
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tennisconnexion Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Do you pick a product first or a keyword first? Pick the product first and then analysis the keyword related to that product.

01-07-2011, 09:33 AM	#7
Bingo123 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 354 Thanks: 6 Thanked 34 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Do you pick a product first or a keyword first? I always go for the product first. It's no good having keywords if you can't find something to sell with them. Once I'm happy that I have a good product that is already selling, I will then use a keyword tool to look for keywords related to it. 9 times out of 10 you will find something that will work for you. It may not always be the keywords you want, but there are plenty of long tail keywords out there than can earn you some good money.

01-07-2011, 09:51 AM	#8
TZ HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 434 Thanks: 0 Thanked 56 Times in 48 Posts	Re: Do you pick a product first or a keyword first? Product first.....yes, BUT don't use keyword tools for anything more than give you a GENERAL idea of what your post titles are going to be. Remember that there are ALLOT of other marketers making decisions based on the keyword tools. The most powerful thing we ever did was base our domain decisions based on common sense and not keyword tools. For example: No keyword tools will tell you the BOBCAT SKID STEER TRACK PART is a good keyword, but that one keyword has been making a nice little 2-5 dollars a day in Adsense for 4 years. Think of the unusual and you will prosper.
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