My 100 Niche SEO Experiment

[kiloh]

I'm pretty new to the warrior forum site and found it in the beginning of this year. After reading tons of posts, it seems
as if most internet marketers here on this forum have the same problems. Either they don't know where to start or they
don't have any plans or thought out directions for their current projects. This biggest problem is they don't follow through with the plans they do have. Most people keep asking the same questions, how do I find a niche? How do I get traffic to my site? How do I make money online?

I realeased a warrior special offer earlier this month and through doing that I met another warrior that I decided to JV with. After multiple PMs and skype conversations we realized that we both recognized the same problems and we both enjoy a good challenge. So we decided to start a challenge of our own that people could follow along so we could show all the people out there stuggling that it's completely possible to achieve your online goals by making them crystal clear, working hard and most importantly following through.

The most common mistake many people make is they set a goal, they start, but somewhere along the line they either give up or stop. Once they don't see the money flowing after a month they feel as if their work has been all a waste of time. We want to show people that if you stick to a game plan and just put the work in, the results will follow and so will the money.

In addition to that we hope to learn a lot for ourselves along the way and build a nice passive income in the process.

Here is the experiment:

• To create 100 Sites in 100 Different Niches and rank all of them on page #1 of Google.
  
• That's 1 site every 3-4 days, basically 2 sites a week.
  
• We already have several niches picked out to get started and we will be identifying more as we go.
  
• We will be using a variety of monetization methods including amazon, clickbank, cpa offers and adsense.
  
• We will be using wordpress to create all of the sites.
  
• For SEO we will be using a variety of methods including, article marketing, social bookmarking, web 2.0's, blog commenting, forum posting, and contextual homepage links.
  
• We are going to run a variety of tests and experiments as we go so there will be plenty to learn from this challenge.
  
• In addition to updating this thread regularly we will also be blogging about our experience every Wednesday and Friday so you can read our updates and see our current progress. We won't be revealing our actual niches in an effort not to saturate them but we will update the site with things like work done, search engine rankings, lessons learned and YTD Profit as we go.

Feel free to ask any questions or leave your comments on this thread... We will reply to everybody and hopefully this will be beneficial to everybody who reads it.

[suemax]

Cool!!! What a great idea - something I want to do myself. I will check in regularly and watch your results with interest.

[CikaPero]

This will be a great thread

I'm bookmarking it

Good luck and congratulations on having the determination in creating such a big experiment.

[kiloh]

Yea, it's all about creating a plan and following through. Even if you don't hit your initial target or goal, good results will come along the way.

[sylarrr]

Wohaa! A 100 sitest seems a huge goal to target. But anyway, good luck! (subscribed to this topic)

[kiloh]

100 sites is a large goal, but when you break it up to 2 websites a week, it's very attainable. I want to show other warriors that if you stick to a schedule, have a goal in place and with the correct mindset, anything is possible.

[Thomas De]

Nice idea! This could be very helpfull for beginners. It seems that you plan to target only one keyword per website, does this mean you are going to build 100 websites with only one page each?

[bradlean]

Damm.. he's good!

[kevtycoon]

Will follow this thread with interest. Good luck mate

[Neil M]

Originally Posted by Thomas De

Nice idea! This could be very helpfull for beginners. It seems that you plan to target only one keyword per website, does this mean you are going to build 100 websites with only one page each?

Hey Thomas I am the other warrior Kiloh is talking about so let me answer that question for you. We are picking one main keyword to target with 3-5 sub keywords being used as well. We are making these sites with a minimum of 3-5 articles with 500 words per article and keyword density specific to that keyword. We will also be switching it up from time to time to test different things.

[oogyboogawa]

Definitely going to be keeping an eye on this thread.

I would like to do something similar (haven't decided if it will be 100 that I shoot for or some other number) but I have so many other things going on right now it is going to have to wait. Will be interested in seeing your results though.

How much of this will be outsourced?

[Dan B Rusu]

Originally Posted by fsdnetwork

I recommend for this experiment to work with one site, as you know is better concentrate in only one, the SEO job (well done) is a hard task and time comsuming.

When I start I create 4 similar sites and do the same for the 4 sites, one year later I decide concetrate in only one and my income was increasing.

Hope it help
Claudio

That's a pretty good strategy - create similar sties and do the same for them. You can also backlink between them, and get rankings faster.

That's one thing I've been testing lately - completely dominating a keyword with multiple sites.

[Neil M]

Originally Posted by Daniel7rusu

That's a pretty good strategy - create similar sties and do the same for them. You can also backlink between them, and get rankings faster.

That's one thing I've been testing lately - completely dominating a keyword with multiple sites.

That is one thing I have been thinking about as well and will definitely be trying in the not so distant future. Ironically Dan it was your thread about EMD's vs Non EMD's that first got us thinking about doing something like this so thank you for the inspiration!

Thanks for all the input guys and we will surely keep you updated with our results as they come in.

[kiloh]

Thanks for all the interest guy, we'll have an update usually Wednesday and Friday to let you know what's going on. As docdizzle mentioned, we'll have a mixture of different approaches per website. Some may be 1 page, others may be more, we do know that having 3-5 articles is the key foundation to be found for getting ranked. We'll test out if you really need to update sites on a daily, weekly or even monthly basis to compete with a higher ranking.

@FSDNetwork, Yes I know concentrating on 1 website can make better income then spreading it around, however I am a firm believer of scaling up what works. Out of the 100 websites we publish, the ones that are the most successful are the ones we'll concentrated and devote more time to down the road.

@Daniel7rusu, having multiple sites to dominate a keyword is also a great strategy. It's pretty fun testing out different ideas and theories cause usually I read people writing and asking on this forum, but I always wonder why they just don't test it out themselves. This thread should help out the people who don't have time to do it and are looking for proven strategies that work.

[breastpump]

greast post.I have bookmarked.

[Roshan C]

Great stuff buddy,
Wish you the very best for your efforts,
I'll bookmark this thread.

Cheers!

[kiloh]

Update 1/26/11

The experiment was started on 1/24/11 and in the past 2 days, we have setup 3 new web sites on 3 separate niches.

Niche #1: We chose a brand new internet marketing product that has not been released yet and is currently in its prelaunch stages. Since there is virtually no competition, we have ranked #1 for the keyword.

Niche #2. This site is based on a CPA for email/zip submit. Exact match domain, with a keyword with 5400 exact searches a month. We have 1 article posted with about 500 words and 3% kw density. We are currently not ranked in the top 100 for Google.

Niche #3. This is our toughest niche yet, with about 550,000 global exact matches per month. We will be offering several clickbank offers to monetize it. With this niche we will have 5 sub-keywords with a total of 109,100 exact global searches. Even though it's a super tough niche, once we hit page 1, with all the volume, this will be a very profitable site. 1 Article with 500 words and proper keyword density has been posted.

For the next couple of days, we will be adding more articles to each site and will start to create 10 web 2.0's for each site.

What we've learned: we were able to rank #1 for a keyword on an upcoming product so we feel we have a leg up on the competition. We will try various techniques to hold the #1 spot and will keep a close eye on any website that dethrones us and find out what they did outrank us. For more detailed info, check out our page dedicated to this experiment found in my sig. Have a great day everybody!

[Jonas B]

kool experiment and i hope u share your findings

but im still new but i don't understand this sentence:
For the next couple of days, we will be adding more articles to each site and will start to create 10 web 2.0's for each site.

what are web 2.0s ??? might sound dumb but what ever i rather learn then stay dumb

[Wechito]

Very interesting. I will subscribe to the thread to follow your progress.

Are you, guys, writing all the content or using autoblogging or outsourcing?

Good luck and have fun!

Originally Posted by kiloh

Update 1/26/11

The experiment was started on 1/24/11 and in the past 2 days, we have setup 3 new web sites on 3 separate niches.

Niche #1: We chose a brand new internet marketing product that has not been released yet and is currently in its prelaunch stages. Since there is virtually no competition, we have ranked #1 for the keyword.

Niche #2. This site is based on a CPA for email/zip submit. Exact match domain, with a keyword with 5400 exact searches a month. We have 1 article posted with about 500 words and 3% kw density. We are currently not ranked in the top 100 for Google.

Niche #3. This is our toughest niche yet, with about 550,000 global exact matches per month. We will be offering several clickbank offers to monetize it. With this niche we will have 5 sub-keywords with a total of 109,100 exact global searches. Even though it's a super tough niche, once we hit page 1, with all the volume, this will be a very profitable site. 1 Article with 500 words and proper keyword density has been posted.

For the next couple of days, we will be adding more articles to each site and will start to create 10 web 2.0's for each site.

What we've learned: we were able to rank #1 for a keyword on an upcoming product so we feel we have a leg up on the competition. We will try various techniques to hold the #1 spot and will keep a close eye on any website that dethrones us and find out what they did outrank us. For more detailed info, check out our page dedicated to this experiment found in my sig. Have a great day everybody!

[Neil M]

@wechito - For right now we are writing all of the content ourselves to ensure quality and originality. Eventually we may begin to outsource the work using the profits from the initial sites.

@zebix - There are no dumb questions, until you learn the answer to something you don't know it and there is nothing wrong with that. To answer your question web 2.0's are sites like wordpress, hub pages and blogger where you can set up a website under a subdomain of a large network. Search engines give a lot of authority to these web 2.0 sites and the serve as an excellent source of quality backlinks.

Hope that answers your questions.

[Sandee]

i am surely following this thread and see the result. Could you clarify me how much link building would you achieve for one site that you limit it to only 2 sites per week? I, actually, cant do 2 sites per week due to link building is my main problem.

I spend one day in site create with all contents and optimization and 3 days in all feature of Senuke blast and another 2 days with SB and do some forum posting and one week for one sites seem not enough for me.

Do you have any good idea on link building?

[Neil M]

Originally Posted by Sandee

i am surely following this thread and see the result. Could you clarify me how much link building would you achieve for one site that you limit it to only 2 sites per week? I, actually, cant do 2 sites per week due to link building is my main problem.

I spend one day in site create with all contents and optimization and 3 days in all feature of Senuke blast and another 2 days with SB and do some forum posting and one week for one sites seem not enough for me.

Do you have any good idea on link building?

I have a few things to say about this. Firstly I can completely understand your frustration. I actually used to be a one man show doing all the content, design and even senuke myself and I also struggled to do just one site. It was only when I opened my mind and began to JV with people that I really began to accelerate. Really we said 2 sites a week as a reasonable goal but we actually have three sites going so far this week and spoke extensively about speeding things up even more tonight.

In regards to link building and SEnuke I can say that the main problem I encountered with that software is how much it requires your time and/or you computer. We are currently using a few different tools that might assist you, namely article marketing robot. You can see all of them on our blog which you can find in our signatures.

My best advice is outsource, JV and think outside of the box. There is always a better/easier way. Hope that helps and thanks for following us.

Neil

[Christina10]

So did that work?? You have suggested a very efficient way.. Thanks.. Good job..!!

[deanameske]

I think I should try this and observe the results.

[willz605]

Well..

many examples of this type of experiment have been done before here on the Warrior Forum...surely you'll succeed.

Been done by Crook, Spencer, and many others....

It's purely a numbers game...the more sites you create the more you'll find out which ones to build out and sell the rest to reinvest in your business.

Good Luck!

[wariswar]

Good Luck to you OP.
There are so many ways which can save your money in SEO of these sites.
Contact me by PM.

[kiloh]

Originally Posted by Christina10

So did that work?? You have suggested a very efficient way.. Thanks.. Good job..!!

Sorry, I'm confused, did what work?

Originally Posted by willz605

Well..

many examples of this type of experiment have been done before here on the Warrior Forum...surely you'll succeed.

Been done by Crook, Spencer, and many others....

It's purely a numbers game...the more sites you create the more you'll find out which ones to build out and sell the rest to reinvest in your business.

Good Luck!

Thanks, yes this is nothing new, but we just wanted to help some warriors out who are struggling and think that you can't make money on the internet. With a little bit of work and dedication, anything is possible.

Originally Posted by wariswar

Good Luck to you OP.
There are so many ways which can save your money in SEO of these sites.
Contact me by PM.

I'm always open to suggestions, PM sent.

[thehobbster]

I'm now a follower of your site and this thread. Good stuff. I love the consistent effort and the solid game plan. Action is progress! Keep the updates coming!

[Armandotoledo]

mantain 100 blogs?
waw waw waw its great... I couldn't imagine how you control it...
btw good luck mate

[kiloh]

Originally Posted by thehobbster

I'm now a follower of your site and this thread. Good stuff. I love the consistent effort and the solid game plan. Action is progress! Keep the updates coming!

Thanks for following, we'll have more updates tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Armandotoledo

mantain 100 blogs?
waw waw waw its great... I couldn't imagine how you control it...
btw good luck mate

Yea, 100 blogs isn't that much as long as you break it down into small pieces and make sure you have a schedule to stick to. Also, by splitting up the work doing a JV, we both have to just do our jobs and the rest will take care of itself.

[kiloh]

Week #1 Update

Things have been going well, our current goal was to do 2 sites per week, and right now we currently are working on 4 sites.

Niche #1: Since this niche we are targeting a product that launches in March, we don't have any more content to add. We are basically building backlinks, adding social network, web 2.0 properties and submitting RSS feeds. We are currently dominating the first page with a couple of spots.

Niche #2: We have added 2 more articles to this site, now for a total of 3 articles. All 3 articles have been spun and submitted with Article Marketing Robot. We have had an average of 1100 directories that our article has been successfully submitted to. We are currently not ranking in Google, however we're at #112 in Yahoo.

Niche #3: We have added 3 articles to this site also. All 3 articles have been spun and submitted with Article Marketing Robot. This site is currently not ranking for any of our keywords.

Niche #4: We started a fourth site, yes we are trying to move along and when you have ideas in your head, you just want to get them out and make them a reality. This is another CPA based site and our main keyword has a 33k exact global from Google Adword Tools. The other 4 keywords we are targeting has a total of 35k exact global searches.

Everything is going good, lessons to be learned is organization is a big key to being successful. Keeping track of many sites is harder than expected. We are also planning to ramp up our experiment and may try outsourcing some of the work. More to come next week, stay tuned and have a great weekend!

[resource1]

nice topic started kiloh.will sure look in detail.

[markowe]

Will follow with interest, usually don't do 'watch me' threads, but you guys obviously know how to go about this and have a plan.
On the technical side, how are you deploying all those WP sites? That can be quite time-consuming and boring, just with the plugins, themes and whatnot. Do you have a standard setup that you clone, or MU, or something else?

[faysal969]

Originally Posted by kiloh

I'm pretty new to the warrior forum site and found it in the beginning of this year. After reading tons of posts, it seems
as if most internet marketers here on this forum have the same problems. Either they don't know where to start or they
don't have any plans or thought out directions for their current projects. This biggest problem is they don't follow through with the plans they do have. Most people keep asking the same questions, how do I find a niche? How do I get traffic to my site? How do I make money online?

I realeased a warrior special offer earlier this month and through doing that I met another warrior that I decided to JV with. After multiple PMs and skype conversations we realized that we both recognized the same problems and we both enjoy a good challenge. So we decided to start a challenge of our own that people could follow along so we could show all the people out there stuggling that it's completely possible to achieve your online goals by making them crystal clear, working hard and most importantly following through.

The most common mistake many people make is they set a goal, they start, but somewhere along the line they either give up or stop. Once they don't see the money flowing after a month they feel as if their work has been all a waste of time. We want to show people that if you stick to a game plan and just put the work in, the results will follow and so will the money.

In addition to that we hope to learn a lot for ourselves along the way and build a nice passive income in the process.

Here is the experiment:

• To create 100 Sites in 100 Different Niches and rank all of them on page #1 of Google.
  
• That's 1 site every 3-4 days, basically 2 sites a week.
  
• We already have several niches picked out to get started and we will be identifying more as we go.
  
• We will be using a variety of monetization methods including amazon, clickbank, cpa offers and adsense.
  
• We will be using wordpress to create all of the sites.
  
• For SEO we will be using a variety of methods including, article marketing, social bookmarking, web 2.0's, blog commenting, forum posting, and contextual homepage links.
  
• We are going to run a variety of tests and experiments as we go so there will be plenty to learn from this challenge.
  
• In addition to updating this thread regularly we will also be blogging about our experience every Wednesday and Friday so you can read our updates and see our current progress. We won't be revealing our actual niches in an effort not to saturate them but we will update the site with things like work done, search engine rankings, lessons learned and YTD Profit as we go.

Feel free to ask any questions or leave your comments on this thread... We will reply to everybody and hopefully this will be beneficial to everybody who reads it.

This is really a great thread. I like to use this technique for my IM.

All the replies in this thread is very interesting and effective. I like to read more.

Thank you very much for this effective post.

[kiloh]

Originally Posted by markowe

Will follow with interest, usually don't do 'watch me' threads, but you guys obviously know how to go about this and have a plan.
On the technical side, how are you deploying all those WP sites? That can be quite time-consuming and boring, just with the plugins, themes and whatnot. Do you have a standard setup that you clone, or MU, or something else?

I am manually deploying all these WP sites myself. I add the theme, add all the plugins, then I go through the setup and make sure everything is in place. We use a pretty standard setup but change some sites around depending on the monetizing method and product niche. We use the same plugins throughout each site. Yes it's very tedious and boring, however I've been able to put up the WP sites in a quick and effective manner. It shouldn't take me more than 15 minutes at most to have an entire site up and running.

[bluebox]

I have a question if you don't mind answering. For your domain registration, what length of time do you register it for? I've purchased a bunch of .info recently for only a single year at $3.

[kiloh]

Originally Posted by bluebox

I have a question if you don't mind answering. For your domain registration, what length of time do you register it for? I've purchased a bunch of .info recently for only a single year at $3.

We usually only purchase 1 year at a time, mainly .com, .net or .org.

[markowe]

Originally Posted by kiloh

I am manually deploying all these WP sites myself. I add the theme, add all the plugins, then I go through the setup and make sure everything is in place. We use a pretty standard setup but change some sites around depending on the monetizing method and product niche. We use the same plugins throughout each site. Yes it's very tedious and boring, however I've been able to put up the WP sites in a quick and effective manner. It shouldn't take me more than 15 minutes at most to have an entire site up and running.

OK, fair enough. I takes me a bit longer, just because it's often a different theme every time so I have to take a bit of time to figure out how the menus are set up and whatnot. Then there are those default Hello world! posts/comments to delete - how annoying are those! AFAIK there is no plugin to remove those automatically!

So I think it is high time I created a standard setup of WP, using a very generic theme, that I can deploy really easily just by uploading the files, importing the database and just changing the site root settings. There are a number of 'framework' themes out there that only have the basic styles in place and a very straightforward page layout so you can build on that afterward, but for this kind of niche site you don't actually NEED a fancy template, the simpler the better (took me years to realise that!) - I have been using this one lately: Thematic 4 You | Everything about the Thematic Theme Framework - a really nice framework theme, loads of widget positions.

I seem to recall Warrior Adam Roy has a WSO along these lines - some kind of script or software for deploying WP quickly, haven't checked it out, but might be useful. The more tedium eliminated from the process of setting up sites the more you can concentrate on the marketing, content writing, or whatever the part is you enjoy.

[vermadenish]

Really Nice ...posts..Thanks to all

[webjedi]

Wonderful I am subscribing.
Did I miss the URL of the blog for updates?

wj

[kiloh]

Originally Posted by webjedi

Wonderful I am subscribing.
Did I miss the URL of the blog for updates?

wj

Thanks for subscribing, we hope you can gain some pointers and learn a few things or two while we conduct this experiment. The blog URL is in the signature.

[Affportal]

Originally Posted by Daniel7rusu

You can also backlink between them, and get rankings faster

I've been noticing that google has counted links between pages on the same domain in their backlink count lately?

I almost didn't believe it. I'll try to find my example I was messing with when I saw this phenomenon.

[brp002]

Sounds really interesting. I am not having the same luck with SEO anymore as I used to still using same tactics. Keep us updated on how things are going.

[jdeer]

That's a big challenge, good luck with it. Let us know how you do.

[kiloh]

Originally Posted by brp002

Sounds really interesting. I am not having the same luck with SEO anymore as I used to still using same tactics. Keep us updated on how things are going.

Why do you think you're not having any more luck with SEO? Have you tried other methods?

Originally Posted by jdeer

That's a big challenge, good luck with it. Let us know how you do.

Sure thing, we'll be updating this thread every Wednesday and Friday. You can also get more detailed analysis of whats going on at our website that we setup located in the sig.

[FivestarHB]

WOW, what a task you guys have set yourself...100 minisites with top rankings. I wish you all the best, you must be working full time on it. I have had a move away from minisites in recent months, in favour of targeting more keywords and lots of content..kind of mini authority. Good luck, and keep working hard!

[Neil M]

Originally Posted by FivestarHB

WOW, what a task you guys have set yourself...100 minisites with top rankings. I wish you all the best, you must be working full time on it. I have had a move away from minisites in recent months, in favour of targeting more keywords and lots of content..kind of mini authority. Good luck, and keep working hard!

Thanks for the support! We are doing this full time but it is not our only job. We are also building a single authority site in the process as well. It seems like a tall task when you say 100 websites but over the course of a year it's really not as scary as it sounds.

Thanks for the support so far everybody. Things are looking up and we will be adding an update tomorrow!

[iloveseo]

That's a pretty good strategy,I hope that would work.

[kiloh]

We are on week 2 of this experiment and so far we are ahead of schedule. We were planning on releasing 2 sites per week, and as of right now we are currently working on 6.

Niche 1: We are steadily holding the #1 position for this niche. Product hasn't been released yet so we will be monitoring this daily.

Niche 2: The website if full of content and we did a blast of Article Marketing Robot and SEnuke. We are not found in the top 200 in Google but #61 in Yahoo. We will be building backlinks to this site daily.

Niche 3: This website is also complete with content, we are currently building backlinks to this site. We are not found in the top 200 in Google but we are around the 100 spot in Yahoo.com

Niche 4: We outsourced the articles for this site and have received them. Everything looks good and the keyword density. Now we will be doing a round of Article Marketing Robot and building backlinks.

Niche 5: We start this site yesterday and it's based on an electronic product. We also used a hyphen in the domain so we will be testing out theories if hyphens help or hurt exact match domains. It will be a mixture of CPA and Amazon to monetize.

Niche 6: This site will also be mixture of adsense and Amazon. Keyword has a high CPC and competition is low to medium. For this site, we will be experimenting with targeting the easy and low searched keywords first, and going from easy to hardest. Reason for that is we want to see if it's worth getting traffic from the lower searched keywords, while waiting to get ranked for the higher searched keywords.

We are learning more and more about keywords and backlinks each day, its a never ending learning process. For more detailed analysis, please check out the sig and visit our experiment site.

[mahesh2010]

Hi,
This is amazing and unbelievable and this taught me may things that i have never learned i have learned lot from this post thanks