New EZA article has over 2000 backlinks? How?

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by bravo75

Some good stuff here. However, I don't agree with the statement that a 0 PR article on a PR 6 article directory is the same as a 0 PR blogpost with a 0 PR homepage.

I also don't agree with it.

To be honest, I can't even find it, but if I could, I'd disagree with it.

The matter's a little more complicated than that. If the blog is also as non-context-relevant as the article directory with the PR-6 home-page, then I'd rather have the article directory PR-0 backlink than the blog PR-0 backlink, myself. But let's be honest, here: this is like comparing a Lada with a Moskvich, isn't it? Neither of them will really get you anywhere.

Originally Posted by DireStraits

I went for a nice day out at the seaside, and to see my grandma.

I think we could all do to be taking more Sunday's off. Feels gooooood.

Time for a nice curry and a movie marathon.

Ooh well ... most of this sounds ok: I'm not quite so sure about the curry ...

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by inter123

I apologise for making assumptions and that is wrong on my part.

Absolutely no need sir.

It was just a discussion.

I, wrong as I may be sometimes too...and I often am...

...make assumptions too.

Human nature and all that malarcky.

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by DireStraits

Heh. I got up this morning - without a hangover for once - logged on here, and for some reason it was all a little bit too much for me, too.

So I went for a nice day out at the seaside, and to see my grandma.

I think we could all do to be taking more Sunday's off. Feels gooooood.

Time for a nice curry and a movie marathon.

Excellent sounding Sunday, old fruit.

It would appear, for the first time I'm out of "Thanks".

So, thanks chap. I just had a nice roast dinner so not sure about a curry right now either.

How's your Nan? (That wasn't mean't to be a joke....Naan/nan! oh that was terrible! )

[DireStraits]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Ooh well ... most of this sounds ok: I'm not quite so sure about the curry ...

My digestive system would agree with you, to be honest.

Originally Posted by Richard Van

How's your Nan? (That wasn't mean't to be a joke....Naan/nan! oh that was terrible! )

Haha. Well, you know, it's a funny thing: when I got there, the owld flour was half "baked" ...

Kiddin'. She's good thanks.

[theseoguys]

It's not uncommon for some to pay for some sort of mass link back of their content at an off site location, where their content on that site, links back to their money site. Some just like to protect their money site, and control the quality of the direct inbound link.

I didn't see but got first hand knowledge from an associate who did, a case where a guy ranked real well for a fairly competitive term with very few, if not one link. Turns out the link was from his yellow pages listing, but that listing had hundreds if not thousands of inbound links to it.

Perhaps this is what the EZA is trying to achieve. There are a lot of ways to 'skin a cat' or SEO a site.

[GeorgR.]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

He's "blasting" someone else's property instead of his own, isn't he? He has a problem, perhaps: he's boosted other people's sites so much in the SERP's that he now has a site with which he can't even outrank an article directory!! And he probably thinks that's "normal"!

Yes...BUT...

There are some niches where it's simply hard to rank your own sites, or he has a new site which simply wont rank anywhere near where ezine is. In this case it could make sense to "target" the article rather than his own site.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

Yes...BUT...

There are some niches where it's simply hard to rank your own sites

That makes it even more important not to backlink to the EZA copy, Georg, not less important!

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

or he has a new site which simply wont rank anywhere near where ezine is.

"Where ezine is", as you put it, is a non-context-relevant, PR-0 page! Don't get confused with EZA's home-page being PR-6: that has nothing to do with this. An article you post in EZA goes on a non-context-relevant PR-0 page. You're trying to tell me that someone can't outrank that, with their own context-relevant niche site?! I'm telling you that, if so, they did it to themselves by sending traffic/backlinks to EZA instead of getting traffic/backlinks from EZA and building their business instead of someone else's!

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

In this case it could make sense to "target" the article rather than his own site.

It would ABSOLUTELY not: it would be a really good example and demonstration of exactly the opposite.

Wow, there's SO much misunderstanding about this subject!

[M Thompson]

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

Yes...BUT...

There are some niches where it's simply hard to rank your own sites, or he has a new site which simply wont rank anywhere near where ezine is. In this case it could make sense to "target" the article rather than his own site.

I use ezinearticles as a key indicator of a keyword that is going to be easy to get to #1

If I see a keyword and there is an ezinearticles page in the top 10 I go for it as they are easy to out rank. If i see ezinearticles and amazon I stop everything and build a page immediately as that means it's really easy to get to #1


If i see ezinearticles, amazon and e-how I break out the champagne as i'll be #1 in a few weeks.


Don't confuse these sites inner pages with their front pages. Google doesn't rank sites it ranks individual pages and as soon as people grasp this concept then it becomes much easier to see the way forward and just what is achievable.

One of the biggest mistakes people make is to to say... My site ranks #1 for XXXX no it doesn't one of your pages ranks #1 for that keyword.



I wonder where all these ideas about eza being a powerful adversary have some from, it's simply not true

[KatyaSenina]

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

Yes...BUT...

There are some niches where it's simply hard to rank your own sites, or he has a new site which simply wont rank anywhere near where ezine is. In this case it could make sense to "target" the article rather than his own site.

Finally, someone who shares the same opinion and understands my point. I don't see why it would be wrong to promote EZA a lil' bit as it's part of your IM business anyway.

Seems like no one here seems to bother if their EZA articles don't generate much views unless they have other ways to boost those views, OR unless they simply don't depend on traffic from EZA, in that case, why bother with EZA anyway?

Or better, why not spread your efforts and build backlinks to both EZA AND your site/blogpost...

[DireStraits]

Katya,

Originally Posted by KatyaSenina

Finally, someone who shares the same opinion and understands my point. I don't see why it would be wrong to promote EZA a lil' bit as it's part of your IM business anyway.

Because it's preferable, in most/all cases, to have your articles ranking highly in the SERPs on your own site - not on EzineArticles. By choosing to rank your articles there instead, you will lose some traffic (those who may have clicked through) to EzineArticles' advertisements (AdSense, Chitika, etc).

Originally Posted by KatyaSenina

Seems like no one here seems to bother if their EZA articles don't generate much views unless they have other ways to boost those views, OR unless they simply don't depend on traffic from EZA, in that case, why bother with EZA anyway?

Well, the aim for many professional article marketers isn't to get views on EZAs (or other directories), so much. At least, that isn't their main aim. Their main aim for submitting their articles is to have them taken and republished by other webmasters.

Article views are of much less concern, in this case, unless those views are by webmasters assessing your article's suitability for republication on their site.

Originally Posted by KatyaSenina

Or better, why not spread your efforts and build backlinks to both EZA AND your site/blogpost...

Because in most cases, multiple instances of the same article (i.e. unchanged articles that haven't been in any way rewritten, to make them unique) will not appear in the SERPs for a single search query. Google likes to present different results, in order to increase the chances that their users are able to find what they're looking for.

So it's very much a case of have the article ranking on your own site, or have it ranking elsewhere. So there's really no point at all in building backlinks to the same article on two separate sites. And why would you prefer to have it ranking elsewhere, if it means you're just adding another step for the visitor/reader to go through before they can land on your site (instead of coming directly from a search-engine), and lowering the number of people who do, due to many getting led away elsewhere by the ads on someone else's site?

All in all, unless you have absolutely 100% no intention of ever setting up your own site on which to rank those articles (and I don't know why you'd rule it out, really - it doesn't cost much to slap up a site), there's very little to be said for building backlinks to someone else's site, because you're just creating more work for yourself in the long-run.

[M Thompson]

Originally Posted by KatyaSenina

Or better, why not spread your efforts and build backlinks to both EZA AND your site/blogpost...

Between myself and my wife we have had 1,060,000 article views on ezine and I have almost never linked to EZA.

I have had probably 10 times that to my sites and i have linked to them.


You site ranking pays you money... ezine articles sites ranking pay them money..

what is your clickthrough rate on your articles? if it 20% you only get 1 in 5 people even going to your site.

If your site ranks higher you get 100%

[daangertenaar]

The weight of a new EZA article is more than creating an own article on your "new" website. You'll often outrank other websites without having to backlink at all, but not with competitive keywords ofcourse.

For example, if you're Ted, and trying to aim for a new product name keyword with almost no competition (note: websites will always appear when typing in the keyword) and you write an article with that keyword included, you'll get ranked on the first page most likely, unless everyone else does the same..

But if you're Maggy and write an article for the keyword "diet", then ofcourse you'll have to build tons of backlinks. So EZA articles does weight more, but that doesn't mean it will get you high ranks.

What I want to say is, when you write an article for EZA, it will get ranked way higher than writing the article on your own website. So you really need to think of a good strategy here .

I recommend not linking to ezine articles, instead link them to your website.