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Old 02-08-2011, 04:28 PM   #1
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Default Lets Face the Facts - Google Will Hate Sales Sites Soon!

Ok ok , Maybe I am exaggerating.

I think for some terms, google will rank sales related sites just fine.

Like,

Buy Dog Food

But I feel they HATE sales sites, ESPECIALLY long form sales pitches that exist in places where people are searching for free general information.

And I feel that they will be penalized or deindexed soon.

What are your thoughts?

I just feel it will be harder and harder to market info products online because google always wants to provide free info. When a customer runs into a pitch page, its, for most people, a bad user experience.

Agree? Disagree? Feel free to disagree because I'd like to hear as I have a few long form pitches in G's top ten. but I feel they are already hating me.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:51 PM   #2
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Default Re: Lets Face the Facts - Google Will Hate Sales Sites Soon!

I understand what you are saying.

But sometimes I'm looking for salespage if I'm wanting to buy something.

I think a lot of searches are like this and don't see google just putting these sites at the bottom of the pile.

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Old 02-08-2011, 06:03 PM   #3
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Default Re: Lets Face the Facts - Google Will Hate Sales Sites Soon!

I can see that direct sales type searches like the example you are describing like, buy dog food, are slowly and surely going to return a lot more local results. Just think of the amount of locations and data throughout north America, let alone the world that would have to be categorized to produce the most accurate results. A search query you are describing, I would think most people don't want to be led to a bulk dog food warehouse that drop ships within a week. They want to know where to get dog food today!

I am starting to see more and more of those type of results with items in city based search, i.e. buy dog food toronto. I am surprised ip address search hasn't become more localized then it already is by being mostly regionalized. i.e Canada, U.S., U.K, etc...

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Default Re: Lets Face the Facts - Google Will Hate Sales Sites Soon!

Well, the dog food example was actually a bad one.

Lets use the oversaturated chicken coop market.

Lets say some dude searches for: How to Build a Chicken Coop

I think G will eventaully do all they can to penalize the long form pitch pages and put super content-rich-loaded sites at the top.

Words such as "order" and "buy" and "guarantee" might be searched for by the algo.

But I am sure it would be more sophisticated than that
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:13 AM   #6
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Default Re: Lets Face the Facts - Google Will Hate Sales Sites Soon!

This is a good question. I think it shows the need for valuable and free content even on sales sites.

It should be easy to incorporate this into any site, no matter what you're selling. I include valuable advice and a free demo on my site.

What's more, I don't sell or place order buttons on my front page.

This is a little more difficult than doing a conventional sales letter but I think it's the future.
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Lets use the oversaturated chicken coop market.
LOL! Not sure why, but I busted out laughing when I read this statement...

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LOL! Not sure why, but I busted out laughing when I read this statement...
lol me too!

just not what I was expecting after oversaturated. pretty random.


good post btw. i'm starting to think that rather than attacking mfa sites and sales sites that IM people do, google is starting to think more laterally. perhaps in the future it will be like one huge database and it will be hard to make an adsense site about a lot of topics because google would be focused on more local results. You would have to rethink your micro niches. Maybe people with the know how should start focusing on very local niches throughout their country.

it has also already damaged a couple of my websites with google slapping shopping images on the top of the first page.

Google is supposed to be giving the searcher what they want to see. i know for a fact that i HATE long copy sales pages, and most people i know do. Perhaps it's the tires style of it that google won't like. I had a long copy random marketing sales letter through the post the other day. I never realised untill then that the online long copy is copied from the long letter copy from back in the day! The lesson is that long copy letters died out because people got used to and bored of them. i think the same will happen with IM.





perhaps someone with the expertise and know-how might want to start

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Old 02-16-2011, 08:25 PM   #10
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Default Re: Lets Face the Facts - Google Will Hate Sales Sites Soon!

well.. highly interested prospects like long form sales letters if they're targeting them well enough.

I just think that G doesn't want people to have to buy stuff in non-buying niches.

And yes the chicken coop market is real flooded with marketers, much like the stupid "Get ex back" niche.
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they dont hate sale sites. They hate affiliate site They want legit business to be in their search engine. that's why its a .com and not .info

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Default Re: Lets Face the Facts - Google Will Hate Sales Sites Soon!

Yeah if they hated sales sites would amazon always be at the top of google?
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