DOFOLLOW vs. NOFOLLOW - DONT CARE!!!

[JasonB]

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

Because it's a lie

Anyway, the point is, why waste time checking to see if it is nofollow anyway? If you believe nofollow won't benefit you at all, great, but why waste time checking to see when it only take a few seconds to post anyway and get some extra traffic?

hahahaha..... You will get extra traffic, because they are there, but like I said below, they don't help in rankings.

What's a lie?

nofollow links don’t help sites rank higher in Google’s search results.

The above quote? Ok.. Whatever.

But, I do understand.... I'm definitely not going to go out of my way to get them, that would be a waste of time..Right!...lol

I will let them come naturally, as you said...

And they will come naturally in the sense that if you're an article marketer (blast articles all over the net) and you use, lets say, UAW, then your bounds to get "NOFOLLOW" links.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Whoa there a second and backup a bit please.. I think you are being a bit disrespectful to both the OP and myself Mike. My logic is not faulty, my logic is spot on because it works for me.

Steve saying someone's logic is faulty in NO way disrespectful. You claimed my point confirmed what you were saying . It most definitely did not and I have every right to point that out. It was faulty logic. Its an open board and people have the right to weigh in on what they think of the information in it.

By discounting some links you are potentially cutting off some potential referral traffic and that is crazy!

look I've already addressed areas where traffic is involved but by far the greatest source of nofollowed links that IMers use get no traffic. Thats misleading. Profile backliks will get nada click throughs to speak of. Most spammed to death blog comments will get no clicks through either. Why would it be crazy (wonder who is being disrespectful there ) not to want to spend time on them if they have no juice? The only way it doesn't matter to your time and effort is if you are blasting spam comments all over the internet with a bot. Now if you want to call me crazy for not doing that then be my guest but again I will say thats faulty logic.

The OP is right, it is not worth wasting time over nofollow.

what part are you not getting? I don't waste time over nofollow . I don't bother with them at all. IF I am getting natural links I have no say so and if I am placing them I use follow. Since you allow for it for yourself I will tell you - Its crazy to target nofollow links unless you are spamming the junk out of sites and it doesn't take any time or effort on your part. Why would I go after the one kind of link google says they don't count? Fits my definition of insanity.

[Steve Crooks]

Lets just stick a nofollow tag on this debate then.. I feel we may be singing from the same hymn book just different hymns thats all.

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Steve saying someone's logic is faulty in NO way disrespectful. You claimed my point confirmed what you were saying . It most definitely did not and I have every right to point that out. It was faulty logic. Its an open board and people have the right to weigh in on what they think of the information in it.



look I've already addressed areas where traffic is involved but by far the greatest source of nofollowed links that IMers use get no traffic. Thats misleading. Profile backliks will get nada click throughs to speak of. Most spammed to death blog comments will get no clicks through either. Why would it be crazy (wonder who is being disrespectful there ) not to want to spend time on them if they have no juice? The only way it doesn't matter to your time and effort is if you are blasting spam comments all over the internet with a bot. Now if you want to call me crazy for not doing that then be my guest but again I will say thats faulty logic.



what part are you not getting? I don't waste time over nofollow . I don't bother with them at all. IF I am getting natural links I have no say so and if I am placing them I use follow. Since you allow for it for yourself I will tell you - Its crazy to target nofollow links unless you are spamming the junk out of sites and it doesn't take any time or effort on your part. Why would I go after the one kind of link google says they don't count? Fits my definition of insanity.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

Because it's a lie

Anyway, the point is, why waste time checking to see if it is nofollow anyway? If you believe nofollow won't benefit you at all, great, but why waste time checking to see when it only take a few seconds to post anyway and get some extra traffic?

Just as I suspected. You are right it doesn't matter if you are spamming sites to death all over the internet (the few second post gives you away) and causing web masters to shut down more and more followed comments.

You have not proven anything is a lie and anyone reading this that believes you over Google and hundreds of professional SEOs needs their heads examined. certainly not based on the links to alleged tests that give no data to confirm results

And before anyone gets upset again I have every right to comment (no pun intended ) because what the few second comment spammers routinely do is find good sites that still will allow quality followed links and get them shut down with their short sighted "ooh oooh I've got me a -worthless backlink within a second" mentality and potentially get good commenters links shut down when the owner has to make mass changes.

So far I have managed to find sites that they haven't been able to but its only a matter of time before we all lose at least some this way.

[iAmNameLess]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Just as I suspected. You are right it doesn't matter if you are spamming sites to death all over the internet (the few second post gives you away) and causing web masters to shut down more and more followed comments.

You have not proven anything is a lie and anyone reading this that believes you over Google and hundreds of professional SEOs needs their heads examined. certainly not based on the links to alleged tests that give no data to confirm results

I have bought link packages before, yeah. So what? I also do a lot of manual back linking, I do a lot of press release writing, so no I don't spam comments all over the internet. Bob PArsons blog is a great example, I do web design and many people there are looking at his video blog for their business, or idea, and eventually they will need a website. I get killer traffic there, and since I'm there anything, why not post a link even if it is nofollow? I'm already there, I type 90+WPM so I'm not really concerned about that anyway. I'll post a link wherever I am.

Hundred of professional SEO's? Hundreds of professional SEO's also stand on the opposite side you do.

[Benguy]

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

Nice try with the "clever" response, but no, nofollow tags don't matter. I'm not talking about PR, I'm talking about overall results. People can argue with me all they want, I really don't care. Don't waste time with nofollow links then, I'll take the extra traffic

Nofollow tags don't matter? Then why would they even exist? That's the whole point, they DO something, they're another variable.

Here's another quote:

"In general, we don't follow them. This means that Google does not transfer PageRank or anchor text across these links."

-http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=96569

The nofollow link element stops PR AND anchor text from being passed on, so yeah I hope you are getting traffic from them.

Its silly to say you'll take them anyway for traffic, as if anyone here is trying to avoid getting traffic. It should go without saying. I'm still going to post videos on youtube for targeted traffic, b/c it's a good way to get traffic. I don't care that the links are nofollow, that's not the point. But if I am going for SEO value, I am trying to get "dofollow" links, and naturally, I will end up nofollow links as well.

[iAmNameLess]

Originally Posted by fsdnetwork

sorry,

Did you know the Mat Cutts interview where it refers cleary in relation to "nofollos", Mat Cutts saw "nofoloow is like no transfer link juice (PR)" ....

So I always try to get follow to get PR and nofollow if the plan is get only traffic

Wow, the spelling is awful.

Sorry, did you know google isn't the only search engine? Also, for everyone else, you don't need to quote matt cutts, I don't care, because I have had success using ONLY nofollow before.

[forexsds]

what about backlinks from website with PR0?

[iAmNameLess]

Originally Posted by forexsds

what about backlinks from website with PR0?

Obviously higher the PR the more powerful the backlink. Everyone will have PR0 back links I would assume.