CHALLENGE for Article Marketers and Those with Duplicate Content Fears

[tpw]

Let's see if we can examine this issue, without driving down tangents fueled by speculation and opinion.

I know from reading this forum that many people consider EzineArticles (EZA) to be an authority website. I don't consider article directories to be authority websites, but I will grant EZA an authority status for this post alone.

What I would like to do is to document "Authority websites" that have some "Duplicate Content" on them.

Don't just say "this site in an authority website, and it might have duplicate content on it".

Let's take a few minutes to prove the facts.

For the sake of evidence-gathering, let's follow a format:

Domain Name - PageRank

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The URL for at least one page on the site that contains content that we know was published elsewhere.

Then use Google to query the "article title" (in quotes), to see how many copies of that "actual" article Google has in its public index. Count a few of the pages that actually have the article on it, rather than just a mention of the title.

(In some cases, we may have to Google a sentence in the article to find the exact article.)

Most of us know it happens, but let us document the evidence.

Rules:

* Only document Authority websites as sites with a PR3 or higher.

* Do not count article directories as an Authority Website, with the exception of EZA.

As a group, we can do so much more on this, than I as an individual can do.

I am going to post this now, and then come back with a few of my own examples.

[tpw]

SEO-News.com - PR4

Search Engine Optimization

Article was published on SEO-News on Jan 20, 2011, and is titled, "Google Sucks All the Way to the Bank".

Article also published on her own PR4 site HighRankings.com:
Google Sucks All the Way to the Bank!

Also published on the PR6 ISEdb.com at:
Google Sucks All the Way to the Bank*|*ISEdb.COM

I have so far found more than a dozen copies of this article on various sites.



SEObook.com - PR6

Search Engine Optimization

Article published on SEO Book Feb 7th, 2011, called, "Two Diametrically Opposed Google Editorial Philosophies".

Also published on the PR3 Atlanta Marketing website here:
Two Diametrically Opposed Google Editorial Philosophies | Atlanta Internet Marketing

and several more sites have been found to be publishing same.

[tpw]

For the record, I am not at all worried about duplicate content. But I thought this might be a good exercise to let people cut through the BS to get to the truth of the issue.

[JohnMcCabe]

Originally Posted by tpw

SEO-News.com - PR4

Search Engine Optimization

Article was published on SEO-News on Jan 20, 2011, and is titled, "Google Sucks All the Way to the Bank".

Article also published on her own PR4 site HighRankings.com:
Google Sucks All the Way to the Bank!

Also published on the PR6 ISEdb.com at:
Google Sucks All the Way to the Bank*|*ISEdb.COM

I have so far found more than a dozen copies of this article on various sites.

As of this posting, these two instances of the article rank at #12 and #13, respectively, for the phrase "Google Sucks", even for broad match.

[Frank Donovan]

Bill,

Originally Posted by tpw

What I would like to do is to document "Authority websites" that have some "Duplicate Content" on them.

Most authority news sites are stuffed with 'duplicate content'.

Just look at The Huffington Post, for example - you know, the site that's just been sold for $315 million (PR 8).

Taking one of their articles at random:

Dr. Philip Neches: Resolving the Mortgage Mess

The Huffington Post ranks number one for the phrase "Resolving the mortgage mess" immediately followed by 13 different sites all ranking for the same article phrase.


Frank

[BradRich]

I don't have anything relevant to add other than I think this will be a great topic and hopefully put to rest all questions and concerns on a very important issue. I look forward to the upcoming posts and just wanted to thank the op and everyone for contributing to this very important topic.

[cashcow]

I think this is one of the most useful posts on here!

I tried it out myself by going to one of the biggest authority sites on dogs dogbreedinfo.com. If you do any dog related sites or research, you know this site always comes up at the top of google and at one time it was in one of their adsense case studies as making $300 a day (that was years ago). It's a PR6.

I randomly picked an article from there (the article itself is a PR5) and searched google for a snippet from one of the sentences. 18 pages were returned, but in looking through them they all don't include the entire article but a paragraph or two (some actually look slightly spun).

[Branlan17]

Yeah, I think the fact that I just copied the first paragraph of one of those articles, and found it INDEXED in so many different Google results shows that duplicate content problems are really a myth. If you're worried, I've found that just changing the title of the same article will almost always get it indexed, and honestly that may not even be necessary.

[tpw]

Originally Posted by cashcow

I think this is one of the most useful posts on here!

I tried it out myself by going to one of the biggest authority sites on dogs dogbreedinfo.com. If you do any dog related sites or research, you know this site always comes up at the top of google and at one time it was in one of their adsense case studies as making $300 a day (that was years ago). It's a PR6.

I randomly picked an article from there (the article itself is a PR5) and searched google for a snippet from one of the sentences. 18 pages were returned, but in looking through them they all don't include the entire article but a paragraph or two (some actually look slightly spun).

Originally Posted by Branlan17

Yeah, I think the fact that I just copied the first paragraph of one of those articles, and found it INDEXED in so many different Google results shows that duplicate content problems are really a myth. If you're worried, I've found that just changing the title of the same article will almost always get it indexed, and honestly that may not even be necessary.

The reason we should check each listing in Google is because many scraper sites will pull the first sentence, the first paragraph or the first few paragraphs from an article and post it.

Then those excerpts will link to the article at another location.

To get a clean test, we should not count those scraped excerpts on the article, but only count the article that is found in its full grandeur on a multitude of websites.

[Paul Myers]

Bill,

To the Mods: Help me keep this discussion on the facts. Please no opinion in this thread.

I'm going to nip this concept in the bud before anyone gets the idea that it's okay:

The moderators are not on-call babysitters for serial pissing matches.

If there is a problem, report it and we'll deal with it. Otherwise, we're going to go about our routines like normal. You don't get to hijack our time with a request like this.


Paul

[PatriciaJ]

I did a search for one of mine that I know had been syndicated to several authority and geek sites. It turned up over 200 sites but I didn't get past the first page because the top results were plagiarised or badly spun copies. That cheesed me off so I tried another.

I did a sentence search from half way down the article and got 159 results and at least 40 are full articles. I know that not all of the pages use my title but a lot of the other lower PR sites do and they are still in the index. A point to be made here is that this article is nearly 3 years old and is still being syndicated and in it's original state.

Niche: music

Title: Bon Jovi Songs and Memories of a Bon Jovi Concert


Blaze Of Glory Music Video Of Bon Jovi | All Kinds of Music information

All Kinds of Music information PR3


Bon Jovi

Musical Multimedia PR3



Prayer - Bon Jovi Songs and Memories of a Bon Jovi Concert

Global Oneness PR4


Bon Bon | All Kinds of Glass

All Kinds of Glass PR3