$12,000/month Adsense account disabled, Please Help!

[arttse]

The Adsense TOU says that PPC is not allowed on sites that has Adsense ads displayed.

The Adsense Help says that you need to closely monitor activity if you are promoting your sites via PPC.

Go figure what you can and cant do!!!

Im confused.

Originally Posted by TryBPO

Is everyone 100% sure that arbitrage is against the ToS for AdSense? I read a pretty convincing argument/statement in the forums here that you could use PPC arbitrage and that it was incentives to click that was not allowed. Can someone point me to the exact wording that covers arbitrage?

[TZ]

Some of the new "PPC networks" out there with Bing/Yahoo/Miva etc. have been riddled with fraud.

Bots that click Adsense ads to keep you "happy" and still buying their traffic.

Back in Novemeber December 2010 we still had a allot of PPC from these networks and we were clawed back over $500 for the month because what Google saw to be invalid clicks.

Since we went ALL natural, not a penny of claw back from Adsense.

PPC is a risk now.

[paulgl]

Perfectly okay to put adsense on a viable (read on the up and up) PPC network.

But I have always thought it was a lose-lose proposition if your only way of monetizing
is via adsense.

TZ makes another point why it's not worth doing.

Paul

[vikramd]

If your niche is mortgage and loans (anything credit related) - you should look into CPA offers and use that site to build a list. I'm not even sure AdSense is the right way to monetize it.

If you are seriously thinking of letting it go - PM me, I might be interested in buying it.

[remodeler]

I think what may have happened is that you never had adsense on it and then overnight you put it on there and it makes $400 a day. I don't know, but I suspect that immediately got their attention and a manual review. And with that, it's a crapshoot as far as who reviewed it, what kind of mood they were in that day, etc., etc.

I haven't seen the site, but you mention images and ads placed close to them. That may have triggered the reviewer to ban the acct. It's all speculation however as Google is the only one who really knows.

[arttse]

If google reviewed sites manually, they would ban 99% of accounts.

Originally Posted by remodeler

I think what may have happened is that you never had adsense on it and then overnight you put it on there and it makes $400 a day. I don't know, but I suspect that immediately got their attention and a manual review. And with that, it's a crapshoot as far as who reviewed it, what kind of mood they were in that day, etc., etc.

I haven't seen the site, but you mention images and ads placed close to them. That may have triggered the reviewer to ban the acct. It's all speculation however as Google is the only one who really knows.

[remodeler]

Originally Posted by arttse

If google reviewed sites manually, they would ban 99% of accounts.

If you don't believe they do review sites once they reach a certain level then you just haven't had one yet. I've been through it myself. And going from 0 to $400 a day is going to trigger a manual review.

[AdamWB]

Honestly, you probably did something with the site that was against ToS, and you weren't aware it was against their ToS. The biggy's are images next to ads (or some type of incentive to click your ads), too many adsense blocks, or misleading titles over your ads, clicking your own ads, etc. There are many more but those are the main ones. And they won't tell you why it was banned.

The reason it was manually checked is because it was hitting $400/day after a few days of having adsense on it. THIS, however, is NOT why it got banned. The reviewer found something they didn't like about the site - and bam - banned. Shoot me a PM of your site if you want me to check it out, I've been through the ringer with adsense over the past decade and have seen it all, I might be able to give you an answer that Google won't.

For now, all you can do is appeal their decision, giving them as much information as you can about the site such as traffic logs etc. Chances are you won't get your account back, but you might if they wrongly banned the account.

However, if I were you - I would sign up with a few cpa networks and slap some mortgage cpa banner ads on your site. They pay anywhere from $10 to $100 depending on the offer. You'd probably make more with this model than adsense anyway.

[E-supreme]

Did you include the adsense terms of service on your site? The main reason it happened was because one day your account is not earning much, next day your earning $400. Obviously it was going to look suspicious. Send me a pm with the url and I might be able to figure it out. If your content is npt unique that could be why. Chances are it was due to the suspicious behaviour of you adsense account earning $400+

[gjnr7522]

Wow, that's terrible. I had my account banned by Google in 2007 for putting small graphics next to the AdSense links, which I honestly didn't know was verboten at the time. It wasn't when I started doing it but they shortly thereafter changed their TOS.

Google as they're #1 knows it and has the arrogance of that position. You have to go to them hat-in-hand. It's hard but is the wisest thing to do. Be honest with them about anything you did illegal. Here's their email: adsense-support@google.com.

Be ruthlessly honest about any wrongdoing. Mine was inadvertent and I told them that over and over again. They didn't reinstate me until a year later.

All is not lost. You can be reinstated. Go over the site w/ a fine toothed comb to see if you're violating their TOS. It's here: https://www.google.com/adsense/terms.

Hope this helps.

[L41db4ck]

Originally Posted by E-supreme

The main reason it happened was because one day your account is not earning much, next day your earning $400. Obviously it was going to look suspicious.

Why??

One day his Adsense account wasn't on a highly visited site, next day it was. Looks normal to me.

[Oliverinside]

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all the help. Just want to give a quick update. My privacy policy was not in compliance with Adsense TOS and was pointed out by two people. I corrected that problem this past weekend.

The form response I received from G said that it could take a week or longer to hear the results of my appeal. It will be one week on Friday night. As of right now, still no response from G. I will update again when I hear something from G.

I extend my sincere thanks to everyone to everyone who took the time to respond in this thread.

[Diane S]

Originally Posted by Oliverinside

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all the help. Just want to give a quick update. My privacy policy was not in compliance with Adsense TOS and was pointed out by two people. I corrected that problem this past weekend.

The form response I received from G said that it could take a week or longer to hear the results of my appeal. It will be one week on Friday night. As of right now, still no response from G. I will update again when I hear something from G.

I extend my sincere thanks to everyone to everyone who took the time to respond in this thread.

Whew! So glad you might have figured out the reason! Hoping you get reinstated soon. This thread is so suspenseful! Could make a good IM mystery movie...

[saqr]

Good to hear that . Hope you will get b your account back .

Would you please share the mistake you make with privacy policy..and who is the " adsense expert " that advises you

[jbpatlanta]

So did you get your adsense site reinstated?

Jon

[GeorgR.]

$200/day and then $400/day basically from ZERO over night is extreme.

There were probably alarm bells ringing at AdSense immediately, no on makes such an amount of money on Adsense right away.

This likely the reason you got banned...although of course Google is in the wrong since this is legit traffic and legit clicks.

[MarketingTorch]

Originally Posted by remodeler

If you don't believe they do review sites once they reach a certain level then you just haven't had one yet. I've been through it myself. And going from 0 to $400 a day is going to trigger a manual review.

This is true. I got so fed up with Adsense last year that I closed my account myself, and then it took about three emails over several months requesting my final payment before they finally sent it to me. I was thinking about opening a new account for a new project I'm doing, then I found this thread and now I'm having second thoughts.

Oliverinside, don't keep us in suspense! What was the outcome of your situation?

[junilerick]

Can't really think of any advice I can possibly give you, all I know is all these 5 and 6 digit figures are making a drool a little..

[junilerick]

Not capable of giving you advice, but I will tell you that this talk of 5 and 6 digit figures are making me drool a bit..

[anupkayastha]

I think you violated adsense TOS.

[IncSEO]

This had happened to me before and the best thing you can do is to speak with the person in charge. Give them the time needed to investigate your case thoroughly and this may take some time though!

[Dumkist]

Can you tell us what was wrong with the privacy policy ?

[imfusa]

I know an almost same story. A guy invested 7000 $ in adwords, and to promote his site with adsense, and when he hit 2000$ on his adsense account he got banned by adsense with the reason of invalid activity/click fraud. I don't think adsense is what it used to be, try other advertising programs.

[JohnnieR]

I find it a little odd that he hasn't updated us on his situation in nearly a month.

Does anybody know anything new about this?

[MarketingTorch]

Originally Posted by JohnnieR

I find it a little odd that he hasn't updated us on his situation in nearly a month.

Does anybody know anything new about this?

I just scrolled up and I see that not only is he still a member, but he's also a War Room member, so he's probably subscribed to the thread. I wish he'd post again too.

[Allure40]

I have a one of my niche networks in the same suspension mess... But I do understand that Google has to defend the brand and if they don't have a strong compliance arm the overall quality of the brand will suffer. But I also understand that it is getting harder to interpret all the 'rules' as many of us who have added to this thread have conflicting ideas of what happened. I would definitely hope that your attempt at an explanation through the limited amount of space you have on the appeal form creates a dialogue that I know all of us would like to hear about. It's ok for them to set the rules for all of us small business people, it's not ok to shut us out with out some type of dialogue... I am looking at other options just in case I don't get the reason from them and therefore cant make a correction. I may try a combination of other providers adbrite, bidvertiser, chitika with infolinks which I think may work out... I wish you all the best...

[dannyibz]

Originally Posted by lexilexi

I've heard a number of times that adsense "reviews" sites when the income breaks through a certain barrier - and that if they decide to "cull", you're pretty much done.

But if all fails with adsense, don't worry, all is not lost. The fact that yours is obviously an authority site in your niche means that others would want to advertise on it - you just have to connect with them.

It's true that other ad *networks* don't have the same revenue potential, but there is another way. Think about the underlying mechanics of what happened. Google is effectively a traffic broker which connects buyers and sellers with an advanced matching program. They are taking a slice of YOUR pie to find you advertisers. It's not their pie that you are getting a slice of, it's your pie! Know what I mean?

So you may be able to do better and cut out the middle-man. If advertisers are paying Google (say) $2 per click (of which you get 50% or less anyway) they might be delighted to pay you $1 directly for the same click. Can you see where I am heading with this? You can sell links or ad space directly.

First, put up a couple banners saying "your ad here" plus some banners from other ad systems; whatever, just make it look good. Give the site a fresh lick of paint or something. Next, go to the sites of your competitors, the sites most similar to yours in content, and make a note of which companies ads, appearing in their adsense, are a match for your site. (I'm assuming that you didn't make notes on which companies ads appeared in your adsense - most people don't but for anyone else reading this, it's a nifty idea to keep all that stuff in a spreadsheet.) Anyway contact such companies directly; they are buying traffic already. Present them with your stats and offer them a better deal:You know your earnings per click so you can guess they are already paying "this plus google's rake-off". You may need some understanding of tracking clicks and how to set up such a system; either that or simply sell ad space based on a time period.

Note that I haven't done this exactly... but I have sold ad space on my sites directly on a monthly basis and it's what I would do if my adsense went down. Sounds like you've already done the hard part, which is building a high traffic site which generates a high number of leads. Google definitely kicked you where it hurts but you may be able to bounce back.

Failing this, I'd say sell the site. Have a cruise of flippa.com if you've never checked it out, I'd say all that traffic of yours is definitely worth some $$. 1-3 x annual earnings? Wish you well! A.

Great advice

[Carl Brown]

Originally Posted by Oliverinside

I don't see that as being likely to be the reason. I put the ads on the site early in the afternoon, and the first day it made over $200. Every day since for 15 days it has brought right around $400/day (except for super bowl sunday. for some strange reason people were not in front of their computers as much that day and it only did $260).

G knows where my traffic comes from, they send most of it themselves. Why take 15 days to figure out that I had a sharp spike from 0 to 400?

Here are the 4 things that seem to me to have possibly caused this to happen:

1. I started doing SEO on this site again since the Adsense income was worth taking a few minutes per day and sending out articles. Thsi was pushing me up in the SERPs, and a competitor didn't like it and clicked the heck out of my ads.

2. I use frontpage to maintain this site, and somehow frontpage might have casued some clicks. Not likely, but I'm not a big fan of Microsoft software. does it always performed properly for you?

3. I wanted to buy scrapebox, and clicked a link to get it at the discount price of $57. that link took me to a black hat forum, where I registered. G didn't like me going to that site and cut me off.

4. I just put Adsense on a page that has a mortgage calculator. On that page where I explain how to use the mortgage calculator, I have the words "enter your numbers and click the calculate now button". We all know you can't tell visitors to click on the ads, and that language tripped a filter that automatically closed my account.

Those are my theories. I won't know unless G tells me. I've received an automated email telling me my account is under review. I am hoping that G will at least provide specifics on what caused it. If they do, I'll be sure to post it here.

Thank you.

I think only #4 has any possibility. Your site is doing so well you don't need adsense. Most of us here wish we had your options. There are a lot of great alternatives for people like you.

[GeorgR.]

WOWWW...that's really...

I just got my Adsense account disabled, and i have a site with a "weight loss calculator". On my site i have the wording "enter your values [...] and click" <--- this is VERY interesting.

Of course i appealed immediately and i am hoping someone replies. (Of course i dont think they will...)

[Cash37]

I agree with everyone else. You probably broke the TOS.

-Arbi not allowed
-Must have a Privacy Policy that specifies the Google DART Cookie is loaded
-Only 3 ad units per page
-Dont click your own ads

[MarketingTorch]

Originally Posted by Cash37

I agree with everyone else. You probably broke the TOS.

-Arbi not allowed
-Must have a Privacy Policy that specifies the Google DART Cookie is loaded
-Only 3 ad units per page
-Dont click your own ads

Arbi? What is that short for? Arbitrage? What are you saying is not allowed?

[jacked]

I hate reading threads like this, just reminds me not to invest too much time and money into my adsense sites.

[hpgoodboy]

If you base your business on G you are doomed. You can hope to get a reply but it can take a long time. In the mean time I suggest to contact Advertising.com and put CPM ads on your site.

[corsleymaxwell]

That is a big income already. I think Google adsense admin are the ones who can solve your problem. They are the one who control everything in Google adsense.

[futuremills]

hey did you eever get your adsense account back?

[tambajosephfoyah]

Well I've found that the Big G has a really nasty attitude when it comes to how to deal with customers. They feel like they are at the top of the world and can't lose.

Even though it may be tough and might take some work, my advice to you, if Google denies your appeal would be to just completely remove Adsense from your site and put other ads up. If your site is still gaining as much visitors as you say then I would recommend selling ad space directly to advertisers.

Once they see your stats the potential of new business you would bring would be too much to pass up. You could charge as much as $500 per advertiser per month depending on your site traffic and the size/location of the ad space in question. Look at the blogger JohnChow.com site to see what I'm talking about.

Sometimes the Big G is not the only way.

[timpears]

I got a notice from AdSense that they were disabling ads to a site I had them on. Which they did. I requested more information on why, through the site in the link from the email.

It took them a while, but they did respond with valuable information, which made me understand why they disabled it. Fortunately it was just to that one site, and not my whole account that was disabled.

So find out what the issue was, and then fix it and appeal. You got nothing to lose. Then if you don't get reinstated, sell the site to a company you create and open up a new bank account for that company, and a new address, even if it is only a suite number of your house if that is your only address you have and that was what you used for AdSense before.

Do you have all the basic requirements for an AdSense site? Contact page, privacy page, it is also recommended you have an about page, but I have got away with not having those.

Wish I had better news for you, but that is the only way I know of to get back in.

[futuremills]

Originally Posted by timpears

I got a notice from AdSense that they were disabling ads to a site I had them on. Which they did. I requested more information on why, through the site in the link from the email.

It took them a while, but they did respond with valuable information, which made me understand why they disabled it. Fortunately it was just to that one site, and not my whole account that was disabled.

So find out what the issue was, and then fix it and appeal. You got nothing to lose. Then if you don't get reinstated, sell the site to a company you create and open up a new bank account for that company, and a new address, even if it is only a suite number of your house if that is your only address you have and that was what you used for AdSense before.

Do you have all the basic requirements for an AdSense site? Contact page, privacy page, it is also recommended you have an about page, but I have got away with not having those.

Wish I had better news for you, but that is the only way I know of to get back in.

valuable info right here! do you need to have a sitemap as well?