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Old 11-20-2011, 08:48 AM   #101
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I think wolfmmiii is completely right!

Back in 2009 I got banned by AdWords because they considered my site being a bridgepage. Which it actually was!

I started adding extras, offered visitors some exclusives, got active in social media and voila: 6 months later I was re-approved by AdWords.

It's like Google says: enhance the user's experience

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Old 11-20-2011, 09:39 AM   #102
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Thanks CopyNazi. I generally don't talk specifics regarding income but I do earn 4 figures per month on amazon sites that I build using this philosophy as a guide. My personal preference is SEO but most of my sites are also Adwords-compliant because I follow these guidelines.
Does TD Tech reviews get much search engine traffic even though the reviews are only about 50-100 words in length?
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Old 11-20-2011, 11:21 AM   #103
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If this thread has grown to include more than the original Affiliate Review Sites post .... and other topics, can I ask:

Is there a problem with CPA sites, like does lack of content make Google hate those, or does using Adwords to such get grief from Google too?
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:52 PM   #104
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That site is my newest site and is starting to get traffic. However, I own other sites with co siderably LESS content that are ranking extremely well. There is so much emphasis put on LOTS of content when in reality, little content ranks just as well if it is valuable and properly Seo'd.

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Adwords wants to deal with a professional/real company that has something to offer, content doesn't matter when your selling stuff. I sold bikes, so all I had was a webshop with the bikes and a small description, like 28" rims, front suspension. Cause it are bikes almost all descriptions were equal, yeah little variations like 26" 24" 20" rims etc. The products sold thereselve so why write all kind of nonsense. People look for a bike, they find it, they buy it. If they want to read about bike routes they type that in Google.
I agree a huge article isn't always necessary. BUT if it comes to affiliate sites (who sell or promote products from others), Google demands extra value. They don't like it to be just a copy of the original seller's site. They want some extras, to avoid getting lots of the same in the search results. Makes sense imho.

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I agree a huge article isn't always necessary. BUT if it comes to affiliate sites (who sell or promote products from others), Google demands extra value. They don't like it to be just a copy of the original seller's site. They want some extras, to avoid getting lots of the same in the search results. Makes sense imho.
Exactly. However, this is what many affiliates get wrong.

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In general I can understand and endorse Google's guidelines. In the real world though the AdWords team(s) are horrible to work with sometimes, because every individual at Google intepretes these guidelines in his or her own way.

Once my POC at Google had to re-approve my site 6(!!) times, just because some other wiseguy had another opinion. So working with them sometimes is a real pain in the #ss.

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I like the way you designed your site btw, care if I steal your design?
Thanks. The theme is a paid theme so you'd have to buy it. There are also a few paid plugins that I use and a few other customized plugins. They all work together to form create the site you see.

Quite a bit of work goes into setting up the initial framework but once its done, it only takes me 5-10 minutes to generate each product and another 5-10 to create laser-targeted (relevant) articles for each product for submission to Web 2.0 and such.

This all makes the theme only a small part of the success of my sites.

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In general I can understand and endorse Google's guidelines. In the real world though the AdWords team(s) are horrible to work with sometimes, because every individual at Google intepretes these guidelines in his or her own way.
I can see how this can be a problem but the sites that I build (when I build them with AdWords in mind) very rarely have issues. Keep in mind that my design is slightly different when building for SEO rather than AdWords.

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Thanks. The theme is a paid theme so you'd have to buy it. There are also a few paid plugins that I use and a few other customized plugins. They all work together to form create the site you see.

Quite a bit of work goes into setting up the initial framework but once its done, it only takes me 5-10 minutes to generate each product and another 5-10 to create laser-targeted (relevant) articles for each product for submission to Web 2.0 and such.

This all makes the theme only a small part of the success of my sites.
What length are your articles usually which you submit to web 2.0? I was just wondering if they have the same type of requirement as article directories which usually require the article to be at least 400 words.
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My built-in article generators provide various-length articles. Some articles are shorter (150-200 words) and others are 400-500 words. Most of my sites that utilize these tools use several different templates.

I also utilize a slide-generator that produces multi-media content.

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Does TD Tech reviews get much search engine traffic even though the reviews are only about 50-100 words in length?
Total length of the reviews are much longer than 50-100 words. I picked one at random and it's 200-300 words. Short? Yes. 50 words? No.

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Is there a problem with CPA sites, like does lack of content make Google hate those, or does using Adwords to such get grief from Google too?
Regardless of what kind of site you own, lack of content can be a problem.

Sites like the one below tend not to have too many problems with AdWords when I submit them because I build them (and present them) as e-commerce sites with lots of interactivity and information.

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Old 11-21-2011, 10:46 PM   #114
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I hate them too! I use the weaver theme, which helps me build custom sites.

I'm an amazon affiliate, pretty new, around 6 months at this... and the amount of rubbish sites is amazing..... why some people can't even spring $10 for a decent banner is beyond me.

In the past couple of months I've seen a definite increase in terrible sites, using the amazon review theme.

This used to bug the hell out of me, now I think it's kind of cool... all I need to do is out rank them, and make my site look better with better content, not hard to do.

Hopefully google human reviews can weed out these nasty sites

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Just a heads-up folks. I've uploaded a slightly revised version of my 17-page ebook entitled "Affiliate Sites for AdWords" to my site (ppcmarketingsecrets.com).

If you'd like to download it (no opt-ins required), feel free.

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