KeyWord Research: Can a single person in google make a large seo result instead of seperate people?

Carson Hill · 02-19-2011, 07:57 AM

So I was doing some seo keyword research this morning.. I found what I thought must be a couple nice available keywords because they had about 41 est (which i think means google searches in a day)

the only thing is that some of these keyword phrases seemed highly personalized.. and I thought "wait a minute!"

I asked myself "Did someone (one person) just type this into google the other day and searched it like 41 times...? I probably won't make much money if this wasn't 41 different people on a daily average..

How is the EST calculated? Does it sometimes take just a single day, or does it do an average of each daily searches for that keyword over time?

KenJ · 02-19-2011, 10:04 AM

Hi Carson

You cannot believe everything the search engines tell you. You also should treat results from the keyword tools with some care and common sense. If the phrase seems unlikely then use your common sense and ignore it.

You will find gems for keywords - I do everyday - but when a strange phrase shows large numbers you should move on to the next one. The tools are not 100% accurate.

I have 3 paid for keyword tools and still only use them as a guide to what to go for. I would go mental if I religiously followed the results shown. I would also not make any money.

The google keyword tool is at least as good as the paid for tools. The reason you use the paid for tools is the way they present the info and analyse it.

all the best

Kenj

phpnetpro · 02-19-2011, 10:10 AM

Yea, I don't use paid keyword tools for the reasons you're talking about. Doing keyword research manually really isn't difficult and I generally find better results with manual searching. I've never quite understood why people use paid keyword tools, but I'm convinced it leaves more names open for me to register, lol. I think the keyword tools are missing the rising domains until they top a certain monthly average, but the CSV file you download from the Google keyword tool can give you monthly information instead of monthly averages based on a year (which is how I find some of my best domains).

Carson Hill · 02-21-2011, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenj

Hi Carson

You cannot believe everything the search engines tell you. You also should treat results from the keyword tools with some care and common sense. If the phrase seems unlikely then use your common sense and ignore it.

You will find gems for keywords - I do everyday - but when a strange phrase shows large numbers you should move on to the next one. The tools are not 100% accurate.

I have 3 paid for keyword tools and still only use them as a guide to what to go for. I would go mental if I religiously followed the results shown. I would also not make any money.

The google keyword tool is at least as good as the paid for tools. The reason you use the paid for tools is the way they present the info and analyse it.

all the best

Kenj

Thank you that is good advice...

I'll still say it is soo odd to me that in this one niche i researched (hypoglycemia)

I'll see this keyword phraze

low grain and carbohydrate diets treat hypoglycemia heart

in seo book it says 31 google searches and 13 yahoo (in that specific phrase order).
Seriously?? It's crazy to me that someone would type that exact phrase in google and other people would be typing that same "random" exact phraze in yahoo. it's really hard to buy because it seems very random!

If anyone has any additional feedback on this, it is very welcome. Thanks

Caleb D Miller · 03-23-2011, 03:10 PM

That does seem pretty strange Carson.

I just went over to google, and I hit "exact" and typed in your keyword... just what might be expected. No searches.

Then I narrowed it down to "low grain and carbohydrate" and I hit the "only show ideas closely related" button. I wanted to see if there were any variations of this keyword being searched. And STILL no searches!

Again this is for exact.

So I would nix this keyword. But maybe I'm still missing something.

Devid Farah · 03-24-2011, 09:28 AM

Hi Carson,

There are few things you need to know.

Firstly a keyword tool only collates data that google tells it.... so it still has a margin for error.

Secondly A keyword is not a good keyword for searches ONLY.

- A keyword should have at least 3000+ searches monthly

- The Commercial Intent should be high

- The search engine competition should be relatively low.

- There should be multiple monetization opportunities for the keyword.

Follow those 4 criteria and you can't be led astray.

02-19-2011, 07:57 AM	#1
Carson Hill Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 84 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	KeyWord Research: Can a single person in google make a large seo result instead of seperate people? So I was doing some seo keyword research this morning.. I found what I thought must be a couple nice available keywords because they had about 41 est (which i think means google searches in a day) the only thing is that some of these keyword phrases seemed highly personalized.. and I thought "wait a minute!" I asked myself "Did someone (one person) just type this into google the other day and searched it like 41 times...? I probably won't make much money if this wasn't 41 different people on a daily average.. How is the EST calculated? Does it sometimes take just a single day, or does it do an average of each daily searches for that keyword over time?
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02-19-2011, 10:04 AM	#2
KenJ Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 1,262 Blog Entries: 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 243 Times in 175 Posts	Re: KeyWord Research Query (what is EST): Could a single person have made a large est instead of ma Hi Carson You cannot believe everything the search engines tell you. You also should treat results from the keyword tools with some care and common sense. If the phrase seems unlikely then use your common sense and ignore it. You will find gems for keywords - I do everyday - but when a strange phrase shows large numbers you should move on to the next one. The tools are not 100% accurate. I have 3 paid for keyword tools and still only use them as a guide to what to go for. I would go mental if I religiously followed the results shown. I would also not make any money. The google keyword tool is at least as good as the paid for tools. The reason you use the paid for tools is the way they present the info and analyse it. all the best Kenj

02-19-2011, 10:10 AM	#3
phpnetpro Programmer / Writer War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SC, USA Posts: 308 Thanks: 13 Thanked 212 Times in 57 Posts	Re: KeyWord Research Query (what is EST): Could a single person have made a large est instead of ma Yea, I don't use paid keyword tools for the reasons you're talking about. Doing keyword research manually really isn't difficult and I generally find better results with manual searching. I've never quite understood why people use paid keyword tools, but I'm convinced it leaves more names open for me to register, lol. I think the keyword tools are missing the rising domains until they top a certain monthly average, but the CSV file you download from the Google keyword tool can give you monthly information instead of monthly averages based on a year (which is how I find some of my best domains).
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03-23-2011, 03:10 PM	#5
Caleb D Miller Hi! How r u? : ) War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 158 Thanks: 17 Thanked 110 Times in 22 Posts Contact Info	Re: KeyWord Research: Can a single person in google make a large seo result instead of seperate peo That does seem pretty strange Carson. I just went over to google, and I hit "exact" and typed in your keyword... just what might be expected. No searches. Then I narrowed it down to "low grain and carbohydrate" and I hit the "only show ideas closely related" button. I wanted to see if there were any variations of this keyword being searched. And STILL no searches! Again this is for exact. So I would nix this keyword. But maybe I'm still missing something.

03-24-2011, 09:28 AM	#6
Devid Farah Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 1,234 Thanks: 656 Thanked 983 Times in 239 Posts	Re: KeyWord Research: Can a single person in google make a large seo result instead of seperate peo Hi Carson, There are few things you need to know. Firstly a keyword tool only collates data that google tells it.... so it still has a margin for error. Secondly A keyword is not a good keyword for searches ONLY. - A keyword should have at least 3000+ searches monthly - The Commercial Intent should be high - The search engine competition should be relatively low. - There should be multiple monetization opportunities for the keyword. Follow those 4 criteria and you can't be led astray.
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