Interesting call today from an executive producer for some TV show

iAmNameLess · 02-21-2011, 07:31 PM

Well, the phone rang, thought it was another inquiry for web design, turns out its an executive producer from some latino tv show. All in all he was wanting to work out a deal for advertisement in exchange for web design and basically I told him I'm not really interested. I have a hard enough time understanding half my clients, I don't want to have to speak broken spanish. LOL.

Anyway, what is really interesting, he brought up that web design is dying and SEO is taking over. Well, web design will always be needed, so whatever, but he's right, the SEO market is increasing.

THEN, he went on saying that before the year is over, SEO will be dead. I think I have heard that 100 times already since the year 2000. What he brought up is that he has a "connection" at google that told him that organic seo will be useless. He said that they will be charging web masters money to even appear in the searches.

So, I found that interesting. I don't believe him at all and I think it is a bunch of fluff and maybe he's on drugs. BUT!!!!

What if it were true? What if google started charging a fee in order to crawl sites? Would that effect you in any way? I know many of you don't have other streams of traffic, so you would likely pay the fee, but then how does it effect your off page SEO work? I know its crazy, but it reminds me to make sure I have other sources of traffic other than just Google.

Mike Grant · 02-21-2011, 07:33 PM

If it was true, a new search engine like Blekko, but easier to use, would come in and take over. Bing's share would skyrocket, and G's would plummet.

warriortx · 02-21-2011, 07:34 PM

Wow that would be a disaster if google did that but it would kill alot of garbage out there.
and do you have his number I would make the trade

Marvin Johnston · 02-21-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

What if it were true? What if google started charging a fee in order to crawl sites? Would that effect you in any way? I know many of you don't have other streams of traffic, so you would likely pay the fee, but then how does it effect your off page SEO work? I know its crazy, but it reminds me to make sure I have other sources of traffic other than just Google.

Google charging to get a website crawled would result in unhappy searchers. And unhappy searchers will go elsewhere. So who would be left to click on the ads (PPC) which is where they make their money?

Also, the amount of money they could get by charging sites to get crawled would almost certainly pale compared to their advertising revenues.

I can remember searchers actually spending a great deal of time on oBay. Look what happened there. PayPal is now projected to be the major portion of eBay inc. in a few years.

Marvin

nando1125 · 02-21-2011, 07:40 PM

Lmao I think he just got a little upset that you declined his offer

Christian Little · 02-21-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

What he brought up is that he has a "connection" at google that told him that organic seo will be useless. He said that they will be charging web masters money to even appear in the searches.

Didn't you know? Everybody with a big mouth has some kind of connection to Google. lol

I wouldn't take a word he's said with a grain of salt. SEO will only get bigger and bigger, ignore morons like that.

BenJackson · 02-21-2011, 07:46 PM

Yea, and facebook is going to start charging too

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

If it was true, a new search engine like Blekko, but easier to use, would come in and take over. Bing's share would skyrocket, and G's would plummet.

Agreed, Google didn't become the #1 web site and search engine in the world with a "pay to crawl" business model. Why change now? Too popular?

HigherPrThanGod · 02-21-2011, 08:22 PM

Depends on who runs Google. If the "guy" is a control freak, yes, they'll screw it up. If "the guy" is a libertarian and believes in free markets, they'll get out of the way and let the people (end users) decide what's the best content. In many ways, the problems we see in society travel their way down to even to the way a search engine is ran. If you have a tyrant running a search engine, who wants to control everything and get rid of every danger, problem or potential threat - they'll eventually destroy themselves and their brand as everyone moves over to the "easier to use" and less "censored" search.

Up until now, Google has been pretty damn free market. I just don't know how long that's gonna last.

theseoguys · 02-21-2011, 08:34 PM

I would see a mass migration to Yahoo and Bing once Google's search results were cut by 95%. Seriously, isn't $24 Billion in revenue a good enough business model as is?

iAmNameLess · 02-21-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

If it was true, a new search engine like Blekko, but easier to use, would come in and take over. Bing's share would skyrocket, and G's would plummet.

Yeah, I agree... he also claimed the others would follow suit, but then someone else would pop up for a huge share of the market.

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Originally Posted by warriortx

Wow that would be a disaster if google did that but it would kill alot of garbage out there.
and do you have his number I would make the trade

I will PM you his number.

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Originally Posted by nando1125

Lmao I think he just got a little upset that you declined his offer

Possibly... and I know people get like that, but I honestly think he believes it himself.

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Originally Posted by Christian Little

Didn't you know? Everybody with a big mouth has some kind of connection to Google. lol

I wouldn't take a word he's said with a grain of salt. SEO will only get bigger and bigger, ignore morons like that.

LOL, yeah I forgot, my cousins girlfriend has an uncle who knows someone that is related to someone at google. lol. Should have just asked him right?

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Originally Posted by theseoguys

I would see a mass migration to Yahoo and Bing once Google's search results were cut by 95%. Seriously, isn't $24 Billion in revenue a good enough business model as is?

Well, yeah, you would think so. No matter what kind of business it is though, and no matter how much money they make I would think they're going to want to make more and always come up with ideas to do that.

I don't believe this guy, and he didn't have me fooled for a second, but it got me thinking. I know many many people on here depend on google for their traffic. Even though it is major BS, I think its something good to reflect on in preparation of something ever happening, to diversify traffic. Next algo change everyone could lose their spots and a majority of traffic. So... I'm viewing the call as not a total waste of time, but something that really sets in. I always see threads about people losing a top spot on Google and they're freaking out since that was how they were making money.

Oranges · 02-21-2011, 09:14 PM

Either he was surely high on drugs, or he was trying to play with you lol.

Christian Little · 02-21-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

LOL, yeah I forgot, my cousins girlfriend has an uncle who knows someone that is related to someone at google. lol. Should have just asked him right?

I believe the most fitting relationship is:

Dark Helmet: "I am your brothers' sister's uncles' cousins' former room mate."
Lone Star: "What does that make us?"
Dark Helmet: "Absolute nothing!"

John Williamson · 02-21-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

If it was true, a new search engine like Blekko, but easier to use, would come in and take over. Bing's share would skyrocket, and G's would plummet.

Couldn't have put it better myself...

chasnsx · 02-21-2011, 10:36 PM

This reminds me of all the noise a year or two ago about how Facebook was going to start charging for membership. We all know what happened with that.

This guy is a con artist, IMO. No real TV producer who is actually working with a show or network would trade work. Real business owners pay for the work with a check or a credit card because a payment is tax deductable and documentable, but how are you going to explain to a tax auditor the value of a trade? I've been running a service business for 14 years, and every time someone wanted to trade, it was because they were broke, and every time someone wanted to trade and said they were big, rich and important, they were a con artist.

Orator · 02-21-2011, 11:48 PM

I sort of look at people theories on SEO like seduction.

Every guy has a theory, and there are plenty of different systems that work. What there is not though, is a definitive manual.

wanna-succeed · 02-21-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

If it was true, a new search engine like Blekko, but easier to use, would come in and take over. Bing's share would skyrocket, and G's would plummet.

Phew...I was still in shock from the OP. Your post saved me from vomitting.

iAmNameLess · 02-22-2011, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wanna-succeed

Phew...I was still in shock from the OP. Your post saved me from vomitting.

I didn't say that I believed it or that it was true lol.

KBrown · 02-24-2011, 11:39 PM

I know a dude that knows a dude that knows of a another dude.... that knows a dude who says he works for google who is pretending to know a dude who really does work for google. am thinking that its a dude who likes to think he knows a dude who doesnt really work at all. Check that out ......

02-21-2011, 07:31 PM	#1
iAmNameLess Smoke Free since Apr 6th War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: MO/IL Posts: 3,601 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,091 Times in 617 Posts Social Networking	Interesting call today from an executive producer for some TV show Well, the phone rang, thought it was another inquiry for web design, turns out its an executive producer from some latino tv show. All in all he was wanting to work out a deal for advertisement in exchange for web design and basically I told him I'm not really interested. I have a hard enough time understanding half my clients, I don't want to have to speak broken spanish. LOL. Anyway, what is really interesting, he brought up that web design is dying and SEO is taking over. Well, web design will always be needed, so whatever, but he's right, the SEO market is increasing. THEN, he went on saying that before the year is over, SEO will be dead. I think I have heard that 100 times already since the year 2000. What he brought up is that he has a "connection" at google that told him that organic seo will be useless. He said that they will be charging web masters money to even appear in the searches. So, I found that interesting. I don't believe him at all and I think it is a bunch of fluff and maybe he's on drugs. BUT!!!! What if it were true? What if google started charging a fee in order to crawl sites? Would that effect you in any way? I know many of you don't have other streams of traffic, so you would likely pay the fee, but then how does it effect your off page SEO work? I know its crazy, but it reminds me to make sure I have other sources of traffic other than just Google.
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HigherPrThanGod Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 508 Thanks: 65 Thanked 72 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Interesting call today from an executive producer for some TV show Depends on who runs Google. If the "guy" is a control freak, yes, they'll screw it up. If "the guy" is a libertarian and believes in free markets, they'll get out of the way and let the people (end users) decide what's the best content. In many ways, the problems we see in society travel their way down to even to the way a search engine is ran. If you have a tyrant running a search engine, who wants to control everything and get rid of every danger, problem or potential threat - they'll eventually destroy themselves and their brand as everyone moves over to the "easier to use" and less "censored" search. Up until now, Google has been pretty damn free market. I just don't know how long that's gonna last.

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chasnsx Nagus Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 132 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Interesting call today from an executive producer for some TV show This reminds me of all the noise a year or two ago about how Facebook was going to start charging for membership. We all know what happened with that. This guy is a con artist, IMO. No real TV producer who is actually working with a show or network would trade work. Real business owners pay for the work with a check or a credit card because a payment is tax deductable and documentable, but how are you going to explain to a tax auditor the value of a trade? I've been running a service business for 14 years, and every time someone wanted to trade, it was because they were broke, and every time someone wanted to trade and said they were big, rich and important, they were a con artist.

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KBrown RockN' Warrior Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 96 Thanks: 230 Thanked 101 Times in 97 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Interesting call today from an executive producer for some TV show I know a dude that knows a dude that knows of a another dude.... that knows a dude who says he works for google who is pretending to know a dude who really does work for google. am thinking that its a dude who likes to think he knows a dude who doesnt really work at all. Check that out ......