Can "Anchor Text" be??? More than just the KW phrase?

Dano1981 · 02-23-2011, 09:31 PM

heeelo warriors,

I clearly understand the value of using your keyword phrase as anchor text

In some cases I might want to have a Larger (longer) call to action thereby having "linkable text" that might be a small paragraph, in which case my "keyword phrase" is within the body of this semi long "keyword anchor"

in other words if my KW phrase is

"long dog tails"

does it diminish the value of the kw anchor text if my keyword phrase
is only 3 words of a longer sentence used for the anchor text?
(in the example below, the entire sentence would be the clickable link
not just the 3 words which are my kw phrase)

"you will love the fantastic long dog tails that we have in stock and ready to ship for you" (this entire sentence would be the anchor text and clickable link)

that's completely made up, but illustrates my point..Do you know if that "degrades" the "quality" in googles eyes of the "long dog tails" keyword phrase?

thanks mates!

Dano~

Dano1981 · 02-23-2011, 10:15 PM

any experience with this point
anyone?

Thanks!

Dano

Dano1981 · 02-24-2011, 12:26 PM

Anyone know the answer?

thank you much mates!

Dano~

bfas · 02-24-2011, 12:32 PM

Hi Dano,

If you think of anchor text as a way to focus the value of the link, you'll be diluting that value with extra text. While you don't want all your anchor text links to be identical, this is to keep them from appearing 'manufactured' or un-natural.

Beyond variations of the keyword phrases you're trying to boost, anything additional would only serve to lessen the benefit.

Michael

BacklinkExcellence · 02-24-2011, 12:35 PM

To give you a short answer: Yes, using a whole sentence (that somewhere includes your target keyphrase) does diminish the relevancy of the anchor text.

If you built 1k links like that and your competitor built 1k "long dog tails" links, he'd outrank you easily (given all other variables are the same like onpage seo, link quality, trust rank etc.).

theseoguys · 02-24-2011, 12:38 PM

Your anchor text is still your anchor text. I have seen long anchored texted signatures as you are describing to use as your own, where people use their keywords within the same anchor text link. What I think they fail to realize, is that becomes the search phrase they will get found on. Google won't know that long dog tails in the example below, should be isolated from the other parts of the sentence.

So, for example "you will love the fantastic long dog tails that we have in stock and ready to ship for you" as anchor text, would be the search phrase you would be found on. The problem is, nobody would search that sentence.

Dano1981 · 02-24-2011, 12:52 PM

Thank all three of you guys very much
I appreciate your setting me straight

I thought perhaps, but then again wished I didn't always have to stick with "long dog tails"

in the blog I'm working on, the color of the background is black with white text, the "links" however defaults to a "neon blue" and is such an incredible look against the black background...

I found that by creating a a longer "clickable text" or anchor text, the "neon blue" was much more "eye candycatching" and loved the look of a "small paragraph" here and there (a couple of times) throughout the approximate 1,300 word text on the page that was "neon blue", it broke it up nicely and looked so much better

I do have another question about this, suppose I leave these 4 paragraphs/sentences(I currently have 4 of them on my blog page) which are currently the "anchor text" then I suppose I could additionally make a few "anchor text links" of just the words "long dog tails" so that I will still get the benefit? or would that make too many "anchor links"?

the page is 1,300 words, and I have currently have 4 "anchor text clickable paragraphs", then maybe I can sprinkle in a few pure "long dog tails" anchor texts" because I'm thinking with the current number of clickable links of the page, in which I have 4 of those "anchor paragraphs" could I then add a few true anchor text links with just my keywords? and hopefully it would not be too much? (hope that made sense!)

Dano~

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfas

Hi Dano,

If you think of anchor text as a way to focus the value of the link, you'll be diluting that value with extra text. While you don't want all your anchor text links to be identical, this is to keep them from appearing 'manufactured' or un-natural.

Beyond variations of the keyword phrases you're trying to boost, anything additional would only serve to lessen the benefit.

Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by BacklinkExcellence

To give you a short answer: Yes, using a whole sentence (that somewhere includes your target keyphrase) does diminish the relevancy of the anchor text.

If you built 1k links like that and your competitor built 1k "long dog tails" links, he'd outrank you easily (given all other variables are the same like onpage seo, link quality, trust rank etc.).

Quote:

Originally Posted by theseoguys

Your anchor text is still your anchor text. I have seen long anchored texted signatures as you are describing to use as your own, where people use their keywords within the same anchor text link. What I think they fail to realize, is that becomes the search phrase they will get found on. Google won't know that long dog tails in the example below, should be isolated from the other parts of the sentence.

So, for example "you will love the fantastic long dog tails that we have in stock and ready to ship for you" as anchor text, would be the search phrase you would be found on. The problem is, nobody would search that sentence.

dburk · 02-24-2011, 04:39 PM

Hi Dano,

As others have asserted the exact match anchor text would naturally be more relevant for that one particular keyword. However, optimizing for one keyword only, is not always the best way to go. By using the longer version of you anchor text you target a much larger universe of keywords and those many keyword variants will create a long tail that could generate more traffic than a better optimized singular keyword.

To use your example anchor text to make my point, here are some of the keywords that you will be optimizing for with your longer anchor text:

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While these keywords are not as well optimized, there are a lot of them, get my point?

KristofferIM · 02-24-2011, 04:41 PM

It might not pass the exact same value but it's good to mix up your links like this to get a natural link profile.

02-23-2011, 09:31 PM	#1
Dano1981 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 410 Thanks: 258 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Can "Anchor Text" be??? More than just the KW phrase? heeelo warriors, I clearly understand the value of using your keyword phrase as anchor text In some cases I might want to have a Larger (longer) call to action thereby having "linkable text" that might be a small paragraph, in which case my "keyword phrase" is within the body of this semi long "keyword anchor" in other words if my KW phrase is "long dog tails" does it diminish the value of the kw anchor text if my keyword phrase is only 3 words of a longer sentence used for the anchor text? (in the example below, the entire sentence would be the clickable link not just the 3 words which are my kw phrase) "you will love the fantastic long dog tails that we have in stock and ready to ship for you" (this entire sentence would be the anchor text and clickable link) that's completely made up, but illustrates my point..Do you know if that "degrades" the "quality" in googles eyes of the "long dog tails" keyword phrase? thanks mates! Dano~

02-23-2011, 10:15 PM	#2
Dano1981 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 410 Thanks: 258 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Can "Anchor Text" be??? More than just the KW phrase? any experience with this point anyone? Thanks! Dano

02-24-2011, 12:26 PM	#3
Dano1981 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 410 Thanks: 258 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Can "Anchor Text" be??? More than just the KW phrase? Anyone know the answer? thank you much mates! Dano~

02-24-2011, 12:32 PM	#4
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BacklinkExcellence Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 548 Thanks: 54 Thanked 84 Times in 75 Posts	Re: Can "Anchor Text" be??? More than just the KW phrase? To give you a short answer: Yes, using a whole sentence (that somewhere includes your target keyphrase) does diminish the relevancy of the anchor text. If you built 1k links like that and your competitor built 1k "long dog tails" links, he'd outrank you easily (given all other variables are the same like onpage seo, link quality, trust rank etc.).
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02-24-2011, 12:38 PM	#6
theseoguys Jordan K War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 833 Thanks: 18 Thanked 92 Times in 80 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Can "Anchor Text" be??? More than just the KW phrase? Your anchor text is still your anchor text. I have seen long anchored texted signatures as you are describing to use as your own, where people use their keywords within the same anchor text link. What I think they fail to realize, is that becomes the search phrase they will get found on. Google won't know that long dog tails in the example below, should be isolated from the other parts of the sentence. So, for example "you will love the fantastic long dog tails that we have in stock and ready to ship for you" as anchor text, would be the search phrase you would be found on. The problem is, nobody would search that sentence.
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02-24-2011, 04:39 PM	#8
dburk Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 4,643 Thanks: 162 Thanked 671 Times in 581 Posts Contact Info	Re: Can "Anchor Text" be??? More than just the KW phrase? Hi Dano, As others have asserted the exact match anchor text would naturally be more relevant for that one particular keyword. However, optimizing for one keyword only, is not always the best way to go. By using the longer version of you anchor text you target a much larger universe of keywords and those many keyword variants will create a long tail that could generate more traffic than a better optimized singular keyword. 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