What is the Original Content or Authority Site Advantage?

Ernie Mitchell · 02-24-2011, 09:06 AM

I’ve been wrestling with a perplexing situation involving quite a bit of content that I authored being indexed by Google before I could get it properly posted and indexed on my site and thereby receive rightful authority site credit as the original content creator.

I write a weekly print & digital newspaper column. The problem happened when a newspaper editor’s digital edition staff mistakenly posted what is now an archive of my columns on the editors open website. The content was suppose to only be posted on their closed (paid access) site so there wouldn’t be an issue with Google’s spiders crawling the site and indexing my unique content to the newspaper’s site. It was my intention to eventually post the columns on my site and get them properly indexed before allowing them to be openly published on the internet. It may be too late for that now.

I am concerned about losing the original content/authority site juice that is rightfully mine on approx 60 columns that took a lot of time to research and write.

I’ve considered asking the publisher to remove the columns from their site until Google de-indexed them and then posting them on my site/blog so they could be re-indexed that the material can ever be de-indexed or, if it can be, how long the process would ultimately take? It seems like I heard somewhere that once content is indexed it is permanently cached and therefore can’t be de-indexed.

If I had known the column was going to be a success I would have started out indexing them to my site from the get-go but who knew. Sometimes we have to learn as we go.

It is my intent to use this content along with the rest of my columns to create an Ernie Mitchell.com branding site therefore the original content/authority site factor “may” be important???

Does anyone know if material can be de-indexed and if so how long to process might take? More importantly, is it worth the effort --- is the original content/authority site factor really that important?

I have a good rapport with this editor and I’m confident they will work with me on sorting out the problem but I don’t want to request that they go through the process of removing the content from their site if it can’t be “de” and then “re” indexed OR if the original content/authority site advantage I’m losing isn’t all that important.

In summary, if anyone has knowledge on the following I would appreciate your insight:

Is the “original content/authority site” advantage I will lose if the columns remain indexed to the publisher’s site worth being concerned about?

If so, if the content is removed from the publishers site will Google (the engines) de-index it so it can later be re-indexed?

If so, approximately how long might that take?

Any insight would be much appreciated.

Chris Kent · 02-24-2011, 09:08 AM

Google doesn't care who came up with the content first. This is a commonly held view that is a myth.

It's algorithm would have to be unrealistically complex to take that into account.

alexanderpoole9 · 02-24-2011, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

Google doesn't care who came up with the content first. This is a commonly held view that is a myth.

It's algorithm would have to be unrealistically complex to take that into account.

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

Ernie Mitchell · 02-25-2011, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

Google doesn't care who came up with the content first. This is a commonly held view that is a myth.

It's algorithm would have to be unrealistically complex to take that into account.

So are you saying Google grants the original content advantage (juice) to the author that originally created the content and thereby holds the copyright "or" the website that the content was on when it was indexed by Google?

I realize this may be a very stupid question but I've never heard it answered.

"IF" Google grants original content authority to the site that it is indexed on can the content become "de"-indexed if it is removed from the site?

Ernie Mitchell · 02-28-2011, 08:57 PM

I realize my above post probably didn't make a lot of sense but this "Original Content" issue has given me a giant mental block.

Anyway --- I think I've discovered the answer to my question on one of the webmaster forums. Whether the person that made the post knew what he was taking about is not known. Here, from memory, is what was posted:

Google determines "Original" based on the "Most Relevant". Everything else is considered duplicate regardless which was the actual original. The "Most Relevant" is always considered the "Original"

If correct, this is a new twist --- at least it is to me.

02-24-2011, 09:06 AM	#1
Ernie Mitchell HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northeastern Minnesota, USA. Posts: 164 Thanks: 220 Thanked 65 Times in 31 Posts Social Networking	What is the Original Content or Authority Site Advantage? I’ve been wrestling with a perplexing situation involving quite a bit of content that I authored being indexed by Google before I could get it properly posted and indexed on my site and thereby receive rightful authority site credit as the original content creator. I write a weekly print & digital newspaper column. The problem happened when a newspaper editor’s digital edition staff mistakenly posted what is now an archive of my columns on the editors open website. The content was suppose to only be posted on their closed (paid access) site so there wouldn’t be an issue with Google’s spiders crawling the site and indexing my unique content to the newspaper’s site. It was my intention to eventually post the columns on my site and get them properly indexed before allowing them to be openly published on the internet. It may be too late for that now. I am concerned about losing the original content/authority site juice that is rightfully mine on approx 60 columns that took a lot of time to research and write. I’ve considered asking the publisher to remove the columns from their site until Google de-indexed them and then posting them on my site/blog so they could be re-indexed that the material can ever be de-indexed or, if it can be, how long the process would ultimately take? It seems like I heard somewhere that once content is indexed it is permanently cached and therefore can’t be de-indexed. If I had known the column was going to be a success I would have started out indexing them to my site from the get-go but who knew. Sometimes we have to learn as we go. It is my intent to use this content along with the rest of my columns to create an Ernie Mitchell.com branding site therefore the original content/authority site factor “may” be important??? Does anyone know if material can be de-indexed and if so how long to process might take? More importantly, is it worth the effort --- is the original content/authority site factor really that important? I have a good rapport with this editor and I’m confident they will work with me on sorting out the problem but I don’t want to request that they go through the process of removing the content from their site if it can’t be “de” and then “re” indexed OR if the original content/authority site advantage I’m losing isn’t all that important. In summary, if anyone has knowledge on the following I would appreciate your insight: Is the “original content/authority site” advantage I will lose if the columns remain indexed to the publisher’s site worth being concerned about? If so, if the content is removed from the publishers site will Google (the engines) de-index it so it can later be re-indexed? If so, approximately how long might that take? Any insight would be much appreciated.

02-24-2011, 09:08 AM	#2
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02-28-2011, 08:57 PM	#5
Ernie Mitchell HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northeastern Minnesota, USA. Posts: 164 Thanks: 220 Thanked 65 Times in 31 Posts Social Networking	Re: What is the Original Content or Authority Site Advantage? I realize my above post probably didn't make a lot of sense but this "Original Content" issue has given me a giant mental block. Anyway --- I think I've discovered the answer to my question on one of the webmaster forums. Whether the person that made the post knew what he was taking about is not known. Here, from memory, is what was posted: Google determines "Original" based on the "Most Relevant". Everything else is considered duplicate regardless which was the actual original. The "Most Relevant" is always considered the "Original" If correct, this is a new twist --- at least it is to me.