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Old 02-25-2011, 06:28 PM   #51
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Yes I had noticed some of my articles slipping.

One of the bad things about publishing on Ezine Articles in my experience is that your articles frequently get taken by others and republished as their own after a very superficial spin. One of mine appears numerous times with a single word changed each time in the title. I had wondered if this was causing my original article to slip down - will Google think its duplicate content? Can it tell which is the original?
Well YOU can if you search for the keyword/article in Google Its likely yours will pop up since it was indexed first. The other, duplicate might now even show up.

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Old 02-25-2011, 07:50 PM   #52
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I think this validates all those who stuck to creating their own sites and posting their own content. I never believed in writing tons of articles for all these Web 2.0s like Hubpages or EZA because one day Google could devalue them, just like what they are claiming to be doing now.

I say "claiming" because Google always contradicts itself, though.
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Yea a lot of my articles that were ranked have lost 5-6 positions on average. Do I think this is permanent? No.

Wait a couple days/weeks...
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:47 PM   #54
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Buzzle has been out-ranking EZA in over 60% of the instances we looked at.
It's not surprising.

Buzzle makes you write at least 600 words.

They require unique content.

They have a strict editorial policy and they'll delete articles that don't measure up.

Buzzle isn't a quick and dirty article dump like EZA.
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Just put out quality content and you will be fine!

Some chap earlier said 'will there come a time when all the content we create will have to be original to rank' (not a quote).

My answer is: I certainly hope so!

Look, if you want to put out a WSO it's got to be yours and original or you get 'sandboxed' so to speak right!

I for one don't want to read the same thing for the top five serps results, nor do I think you would.

We must remember who Google serves. They don't care about the marketer, the advertiser or the website builder. Google cares about the searcher plain and simple.

They know that if they attract enough eyeballs with wallets you "the marketer" will trip all over yourself to get your stuff (money pages) in front of all those wallets.

So, make the searcher happy, you then make Google happy and then you're happy!

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Old 02-25-2011, 09:53 PM   #56
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Buzzle makes you write at least 600 words.
Well, that's a suggestion. I have articles on Buzzle that are less than 600 words.

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Buzzle isn't a quick and dirty article dump like EZA.
Buzzle is working, so that's all I can ask for.

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Old 02-25-2011, 09:59 PM   #57
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Who in their right mind would depend on a 1:1 "sourced" for ANY (whatsoever!) purpose - be it for re-distribution or maybe using as content on your own site?

AWFUL...

Duplicate content is exactly that: Duplicate content. There is no penalty whatsoever for having duplicate content - but you will NEVER EVER rank for it..respective not even show up in Google's index.

Aside from that, G always degraded and downgraded duplicate content, what do you think the "supplementary index" is?

Oups..you ARE living under a rock....sigh....

Add: There is a reason people having articles written, and there is a reason a LOT of time (for my own sites, as an example) is spent on writing new, unique content for them. Heck, A LOT OF TIME.
There is also a reason that (at the very minimum!!) people use spinner software and submit spun articles to blog networks/article directories. Again..no one remotely serious about IM would put a 1:1 article on his own site...or use such an article (ezine etc.) unaltered for redistribution. Other, legal issues not even considered here.
Thank you so much for responding GeorgR even though I do NOT appreciate your condescending tone.

I made the comments I made and asked the questions I asked out of concern for the future or article marketing --- more specifically out of concern for the future of a large archive of very well written newspaper business columns that I've authored over the past three years.

I don't know why you mentioned spun articles. I didn't!! Nor do I understand where you are coming from concerning legal issues.

I acknowledge that I'm not as well versed in IM as many of the people on this forum. In fact, the rock I live under doesn't have a reference book that defines what you call 1:1 articles. Neither does Google so I am at loss at following some of your logic.

I made the duplicate content comment because there is a line of thought (obviously flawed) that "any" content is duplicate if it doesn't come straight from the source of the origination site.

What's got me concerned /worried is the fact that one of my publishers mistakenly placed a large amount of my content on his open (non paid access) newspaper website and it got indexed by google before it was indexed on my site. Now, even though I am the original author and copyright holder I don't know how this recent Google action might effect my posting the columns (archive) on an article directory.

Thank you for your advice. My advice back to you is that you need work on your manners. Not all people that are in the process of learning IM are stupid, spammers or crooked.
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Old 02-25-2011, 10:18 PM   #58
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Almost everyone has, it'll be fixed soon. It's in EZA's best interest to make sure that their site ranks :-)
It's much more complicated than that. Google is finally starting to devalue content farms such as ezinearticles, squidoo, hubpages, etc. Hopefully most everyone used these places as a tool to help build their business - and not *as* their actual business.

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ezinearticles.com lost an average of 34 positions
hubpages.com lost an average of 31 positions
squidoo.com lost an average of 15 positions
articlesbase.com lost an average of 29 positions
buzzle.com lost an average of 30 positions
associatedcontent.com lost an average of 22 positions
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Old 02-25-2011, 10:48 PM   #60
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Darn another colon clense ezine article goes down the drain!
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Don't rely on one source for traffic is one moral of this story.

Oh and btw, I don't think auto-blogging will ever die, it will just change with the times.

Google is basically a computer, and computers will compete against the Google algo. Evolution.

I may be in the minority here, but that's what I truly believe. As Google gets more advanced the auto-scripts will get more advanced, I wouldn't be surprised if some programmer(s) were right now back engineering a new form of auto-content that is three steps ahead of Google.

Now you ain't gonna hear about that on the WF or any other public forum, but it's out there.

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2 pennies well spent! well put However one point people seem to forget if google makes it more harder for organic free traffic from ezine then what do you have left for traffic


Most of My site traffic come from referring sites and i hope that dont become a factor in the change over i have noticed a lot of my ezines are dying slowly in traffic.

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I don't know..my Buzzle articles are down just as much if not more than my ezinearticles/articlesbase/goarticles. They are all content farms in Google's eyes - at least they fit within the defining terms of a content farm. Sucks to be them right now I guess - I hope they will come back.
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I'll just summarize this topic into one sentence:

"If you can't evolve, QUIT."

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Old 03-03-2011, 08:26 PM   #64
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If i was rude in my above reply to Ernie I APOLOGIZE!!

Sorry, i did not follow this thread so i didn't know about Ernies response. It can happen that "in the heat of the debate" sometimes i choose the wrong words - was not intended...

I remember i replied to your posting

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It seems to me that if Google comes down on (downgrades) duplicate content it will no longer be advantageous for content site owners to publish articles sourced from the directories.
and this is what triggered my response since i was assuming it should be common knowledge that it never was "advantageous" to publish sourced articles, at least not unaltered.

It was not my intention to come up as rude, nor do i want to sound like a rude "know it all" - I apologize again! Peace?

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Old 03-03-2011, 08:32 PM   #65
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What's got me concerned /worried is the fact that one of my publishers mistakenly placed a large amount of my content on his open (non paid access) newspaper website and it got indexed by google before it was indexed on my site. Now, even though I am the original author and copyright holder I don't know how this recent Google action might effect my posting the columns (archive) on an article directory.

Thank you for your advice. My advice back to you is that you need work on your manners. Not all people that are in the process of learning IM are stupid, spammers or crooked.
It seems you are out of luck, you should always place your content on your site and wait a few days until it is indexed on your site first. I wouldn't depend that Google can properly attribute this content to your site.
But i think the problem is not that tragic if you "only" intend to distribute the articles to article directories - in other words: Putting them up would still be overall better as opposed to not putting them up where you wouldn't gain anything from them.

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stupid reply,,, milk and honey? yeah right!
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I go to the end here and was going to add that I did see a lot of junk jibberish on GoArticles,ArticlesBase and even Buzzle (to a lesser degree) sites that do watch for too much are Infobarrel (and they share adsense w/you)
IMers will move on to duplicate something else, probably videos pretty soon or iPhone apps or something just for a backlink. Good writers are the best I've found
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Is the same thing happening at other article directories? Have the latest Google changes "devalued" articles somewhat?
right........

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It's not surprising.

Buzzle makes you write at least 600 words.

They require unique content.

They have a strict editorial policy and they'll delete articles that don't measure up.

Buzzle isn't a quick and dirty article dump like EZA.
Problem is, Buzzle is extremely poor at giving you CTRs.

I have many articles that have 500-600 views with less than 1% CTR at Buzzle.

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Yes, folks, it is true, but this is not just limited to blog farms or article directories, Auto Blogging and Content scrapers are on the chopping block too, every thing is about to change, if you are running an auto blog you should seriously consider making some changes Fast...
I totally agree with Tim, drop autoblogs or you will get a Google slap. Google wants unique content.

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