Ezine nofollow. Are they kidding me?

[iAmNameLess]

Originally Posted by matt5409

how is that "pure and simple"?

Matt Cutts has said time and time again that nofollow links do not pass pagerank. they cause googlebot to STOP.

Unless you are referring to other search engines (which don't matter), that was an uninformed comment to make!

WOW! First off you are uninformed if you think other search engines don't matter, I make about 5 grand a month with a site that is only ranked high in BING!!

Secondly, Matt Cutts has said that you're right, but it just isn't true. The googlebot does not STOP, it still crawls. It doesn't pass PAGE RANK, but it does INCREASE SERPs.

Originally Posted by Vasuu

Mattcutts recently clarified that Google spiders ignore links attributed with "NoFollow".

Yes, also clarified that duplicate content is a penalty, that only unique and quality content will do well. Obviously that isn't entirely true, autoblogs rising up, duplicate content won't be implemented, syndication and going viral are things that happen now. You can't punish for that. You go ahead and go for links that aren't nofollow, without adding variety, and avoiding chances to get tons of traffic and increase in SERPs and leave the good ones for me. I'm fine with that.

Originally Posted by Barry Unruh

Chris,

I agree with almost everything you have said in this thread, but these statements are on the verge of insanity.

No, actually Chris has it right, he is one of the few people on here that really understand success. If your business is going to die with an algo change, you are not independent. I feel sorry for everyone that is depending on google for their paychecks. You shouldn't have all your eggs in one basket.

Start building a list, so you have something to fall back on.

[tedwood]

Ezine made a bad mistake mentioning the noFollow attribute or to even consider it. They knew this would be a big concern for webmasters, so why did they even have to mention it!? I know they want to stop the whopping they're getting from Google but being honest it was their own fault by plastering advertising everywhere.
I think 2011 is really a year where webmasters HAVE to stop putting out terrible content and really think about how it's going to benefit their readers. People hear this advice over and over but still don't listen.

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by mailey

Jonathan Ledger advises people not to post the same article on their website and a third party property such as an Article Durectory. But instead to spin in. An interesting view point.

As much as it would be in my own best personal interest to agree with Jonathan - I just don't. Not yet, anyway.

I have been following Jonathan since I started in IM and have had great success using his products and following his advice (and lead), I just think it's too soon to say what will work and what won't. That's just the way I roll.

Jonathan aside, I've seen a lot of one-sided, dare I say "convenient", opinion on the whole algorithm change by folks all over the Internet the last couple of days, and quite frankly, there hasn't been enough time to test things out here.

Sure one way may apparently work based on immediate algorithmic results, but how can anyone say that something doesn't work yet? There hasn't been enough time for appropriate testing! Theories are fine, but they should be presented as such.

Testing which articles are working and which aren't will require a great deal of articles and statistical data, along with a highly analytical mind and, above all, time. And there are only a very small group of people who have access to 3 of the 4 of the above. None of us have had the time yet.

Just rambling now. LOL I hope I didn't make anyone angry.

Good luck and KEEP WRITING!

Allen

[whateverpedia]

What a futile argument this thread has turned into.

Whether the links are no or dofollow is pretty much irrelevant as most articles on EZA, and other sites are going to have a PR of 0 anyway.

Just because EZA itself has a PR6, your article(s) is/are going to be PR0, so that is how much pagerank "juice" is going to be passed onto your target site.

The only advantage EZA has is that the search engines regularly visit the site and therefore will eventually find your site as well, irrespective of whether the link to your site is no- or dofollow.

Remember that - the pagerank passed on from dofollow links is the pagreank of that particular page, not the pagerank of the domain itself.

Now, you can continue arguing

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

the pagerank passed on from dofollow links is the pagreank of that particular page, not the pagerank of the domain itself.

I can't say whether this is true or not, because I don't have access to Google's algorithms code - but you should also remember (and I speculate) that the juice coming from that page is also split between the outgoing links on that page.

Some may get more than others depending on their location, anchor text, repetitiveness, etc...

So while we're on EZA - have you counted how many outgoing links are on their article pages? Another reason why this thread could be considered useless.

Good luck and KEEP WRITING!
Allen Graves

[Dumkist]

I just don't understand why people would want to post more than one article on ezine articles anyway..no matter how many you add you will only get credit from one link...and personally I never did like ezine articles..to many places to get links why go thew all the bs just for a link..why help someone build their adsense Income...go build your own !...stop making them rich !

[niffybranco]

Originally Posted by Dumkist

I just don't understand why people would want to post more than one article on ezine articles anyway..no matter how many you add you will only get credit from one link...and personally I never did like ezine articles..to many places to get links why go thew all the bs just for a link..why help someone build their adsense Income...go build your own !...stop making them rich !

If you are someone who puts their money in a bank then all you said is hypocritical.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Liam Hamer

Beat me to it No Follow = no link juice is a myth, pure and simple.

Ah the big Google Nofollow conspiracy theory raises its head again as it does every week on WF. Lee Harvey Oswald was the secret love love father of Matt cutts.

Google invented and implemented the no follow tag and then doesn't use it just to fool marketers. same people who are trying to cover up the true existence of bigfoot

Pure and simple your myth statement is the real myth

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

What a futile argument this thread has turned into.

Whether the links are no or dofollow is pretty much irrelevant as most articles on EZA, and other sites are going to have a PR of 0 anyway.

unfortunately its not that simple.


A) pagerank of zero does not mean there is no linkjuice. It simply means whatever link juice there is does not add up to give it a one. In other words there can be fractional juice. I have taken my Pr zero pages to pr 1 by linking profile and articles pages to it that show nothing but zero PR. Takes quite a few to do it until the fractional PRs add up to give my page a 1.

B) anchor text juice is not the same as PR

So it does matter unless you are one of the Flat earthers here that insist that Google is fooling us all (incidentally nofollow was proven to work as Google advertised by the old but no longer necessary practice of PR sculpting)

[Dumkist]

It's not the end of the world ..move on people..let ezine articles figure out how to create unique content like the rest of us.

[iAmNameLess]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Ah the big Google Nofollow conspiracy theory raises its head again as it does every week on WF. Lee Harvey Oswald was the secret love love father of Matt cutts.

Google invented and implemented the no follow tag and then doesn't use it just to fool marketers. same people who are trying to cover up the true existence of bigfoot

Pure and simple your myth statement is the real myth

Weekly? I think it is closer to daily. And I understand I am probably in the minority as well that I don't believe nofollow links are worthless.

Regardless of the actual truth of this, I still go after nofollow links for variety and I have a few that are golden and I get great traffic from them. But to me, I'd rather be getting traffic than worry about whether a link is nofollow or not.

[Bounderby]

And the award for most arrogant poster in this thread goes to...