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| Warriors, It seems that every few weeks someone creates a post where they attempt to show how they can make money online. This is especially common with new people/niche sites as someone stumbled upon Xfactor, clickbump or one of the other systems. That is fine, but as most of us know, making money with small sites is not rocket science. It takes hard work, proper keyword research and some back-linking. Some of these sites tend to rank if you simply sneeze in their direction. This was something that I did as well in the beginning but not to make a living of off small sites but to throw a wide net and see which of the sites start to show potential. It has been a few months and now I am getting a decent passive income and have those $4, $5 & $10 sites so the systems do work as promised. Since I started, I have taken the best (in my opinion) out of the many courses available and now can easily make these sites. Many will make money, many flop... but the zombie site creation does work. The one thing that I did not see is someone actually taking one of these smaller sites and making into an authority site. ![]() It also dawned on me that most of those posts stopped at the point where the person reached $8-$10 per day and couldn't get their income up or gave up as it took them longer than planned. Hopefully this will prove and show that next step which is neccessary (especially with the current google algorithm changes) to reach a healthy passive income. If you can do this once, then you can easily rinse and repeat. Throw another net out there, and build out the ones that show potential or with enough experience go right into creating an authority site. I have picked two candidates for this task and am going to attempt reaching that $100 per day with only them... this seems the magic number around this forum. I could do this with small sites but when I think of the maintenance, upkeep and renewal fees... this seems like a better strategy. None of these sites have had any special backlinking to them other than a few social bookmarks, article submissions and web 2.0 properties set up during their initial couple weeks. I will not do any massive profile linking as that is simply not my style. The sites are as follow: Product site - $7 average per day | 8 pages of content | 35 uniques per day | 5 month old Health site - $5 per month |50 pages of content | 10 uniques per day | 4 month old The reason that I chose these two is to see how they advance in comparison to each other. When starting them I thought that one would be a small product site and the other should eventually be an authority site. They were linked to in the beginning and allowed to sit and mature over a couple months. During that time I have created almost a 100 other small sites and these are in various stages of maturity as well. Last week I did a graphical overhaul on the health site which will definitely reduce the CTR but makes it look very professional. The product site is left as was and will be simply made larger. I want each of them to have at the minimum a 100+ pages of backlinked content by the end of this challenge. I will go into the way I build my pages more as I go on as it is hard to think of everything right away. My experience shows that ranking pages other than the home page is not easy with small sites, and this is one of the reasons I want to get these larger and see if that changes. There are some challenges though: Product site is on 1st page of google at the top and there are not that many other products left in the same niche so I will have to get creative. Health site is on the 2nd page of google but the competition on the 1st page is insane. There are some sites with over 100K backlinks. Either way... we will learn something from this, and if it doesn't pan out I will be no worst of than when I started. I also want to say thanks to XFactor, Lisa Parmsley, John Zeus and Joseph Archibald and other helpful warriors for helping me find the way when I first came into the IM world. The reason I am doing this on WF because I know that you guys will keep my accountable. This will start on Monday so that's when I will do my first update and start the countdown. All questions, comments, suggestions welcome. |
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Awesome, dude. Go for it. Wishing u all the best.
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Good luck. =)
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| Welcome to my 100 day experiment in turning small sites into authority sites! I really wish that I could give this person their credits for the following quote but I do not remember who said it. "Built an authority site and never looked back, it's presence within the niche is similar to an elephant at a tea party rally." This has been in my head for a while now as I was thinking up this plan. I bet you also notice how many of the large sites can elbow you out of your position by simply mentioning a product or service. The main thing I did was look over my neglected health site and really correct many of the problems as well as trim it down. When it was started I got distracted quite fast and left a lot of loose ends on it (pages under construction... don't you simply hate seeing those. I bet that Google's robot also loved all of the dead ends with empty pages.The site is now trimmed down to 26 pages... this makes getting this to over a 100+ pages even harder. After a further examination I also noticed that the payout rate I am getting on both of these sites does not quite make sense. From spyfu: Health site - average $5 per click Product site - average $.40 per click Reality: Health site - average $0.19 per click Product site - average $1 per click On the health site this could be due to people clicking on the bottom ads, as the one on the top pays out the most and the amount decreases with each ad... but still... $0.19 ??? - Day 100 - I have placed 36 posts into the que of BMR (outsourced) for the health site (main keyword, and 3 other pages) and will have it go out at 1-3 per day. The last algorithm update makes it very important to control the velocity of the links being released. Placed one article for each site into AMR and set the output for 10 per day... this might be small, but I like to do a lot of different types of link building and if I set something too high it might get me in trouble. Also I do not want to have Google see that I am getting 50 links per day for three months and then only 5 or 10. Set up a fan page on facebook for my health site and already have two fans without any promotion... don't know much about social media but am going to figure out as much as I can during this challenge and share it with you guys. I wrote 4 articles for the health site. It takes me a while as I really make sure that the information is solid, go for at least 700+ words (rarely have anything with less) and theme it really well using Web content studio. Also scheduled for my squidoo anchors (both sites) to get plummeted for the next two days with blog posts from backlinks genie (have two accounts). I never mentioned that this will be done with zero help, as this is a business and if I was in the construction world I wouldn't attempt building a house without powertools in the same amount of time. Thanks for your support and I will keep the updates coming... next one in a day or two. For those that still have trouble even making small niche sites, leave your questions as well... as I had good success with that without any tools when first starting out a few months back. Click on the Thanks button if you enjoy the post |
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Good idea, that's exactly what I did 6 months ago and what enabled me to reach my $100 adsense days. I saw xfactor for what it is, a short term solution and eventually once I hit about 10 websites I decided to just try to focus on my top 3 that seemed to have growth potential and now I have one that makes $50-60 a day and another $20-30. The ones I never worked on still make $1/day or less but it's good to see
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The great thing is that so many working systems are available that no one can make an excuse for not succeeding... other than not putting in the work. | |
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Good luck. Hope u make it.
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Looks like a good thread. Are you going to give your backlinking strategies and such throughout this thread? I know you've given a few details about it already, AMR, BLG, Squidoos, and such.. But are you going to get into detail about what you do or do you have any set method? I Just decided to put adsense back on my websites, and one of them is earning about $15/day. I can't believe it, but it's true! And my opt-in rate to my list only seems to be growing.. |
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There is a method which I use for when I first set up the small niche sites, but this is the first time I am attempting to make something larger. The algorithms seems to be changing more often as of late and thus I am always ready to move with the current. I intended for the thread to be educational and nothing else... extra work for me, as I would do the same plan either way. Thanks for the feedback | |
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| Thank you... with these types of threads it is always hard to tell as even some of the best GURUs have failed... seen it before. The only thing I can promise is that I will finish the task and give it my best... however, failure is not something that I take likely so expect a fight. |
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Hi I'll certainly be following this thread with interest. I'm currently expanding some of my smaller sites, so will be particulary interesed in your methods. Best wishes Kim. |
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This is an excellent thread, and one that I will definitely follow. I'd love to know more backlinking details, as the new Algo change has really got me confused. And BTW...we should all give our thinks to Tom for this, as it does take quite a bit of extra work to put it together...just my 2c.
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Hey good luck for your challenge. Keep updating your success to inspire everyone as already I've been motivated to take such kind of project.
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| How time flies when you are working hard... lol ![]() I completely understand how the algo changes wreck havoc in the IM community but that is because of the many systems with weak foundations that are followed. It just amazes me that I am still getting offers about auto-blogging and such nonsense after Google has officialy figured it out and thrown the concept out the window. These types of programs have been available for many years and they all last no more than a few months... if you are lucky. Enough rambling... we are going old school / back to the basics with this thread. Solid foundations and techniques that some of the best current money makers (white hat) are using to get their large sites ranking over and over again. At least that's what I have been able to get out of them... and now the time comes to see if they are really onto something or simply blowing smoke. If this experiment is even partially successful, anyone will be able to tack it onto one of the small niche programs out there and seriously make a killing. Not trying to get ahead of myself but the fact is that the ways to make a small site profitably are already working (many available) and all we need now is a easy-to-understand way on how to expand these sites. As I might be a bit all over the place, what I will try to do... is later sum up what I have done in a easy to see format so that everyone can have a little cheat sheet to look over (if people are interested.) The reason for not following a straight route is that this is not an assembly line and things/thoughts/events happen which make me either enhance or add something onto a previous idea. That's just the type of a business that this is. I appreciate the support and hope that this really helps with what you guys are already doing or planning on doing next. - Day 98 - Within the last two days I have done the following:
There are various ways to use backlinks genie but what I have noticed that by sending multiple types of spammy links at them, even harder to rank for pages start to get indexed and sometimes come up quite high. I vary the type of web 2.0 properties that I create as well as from my experience having anymore than 10 Squidoo lenses pointed at one site is pointless. Some people say that you should create one squidoo lense for each site on your page but I would rather take than energy elsewhere. After 10 links from the same site, the strength of any additional ones becomes seriously diluted. Backlinks Genie as well as SEO robot create these type of properties and I use that for that as well. I plan on creating a few batches for the different long tail keywords and throwing a ton of links at those to get them ranking. My health site at the moment is ranking "80" for its root keyword (shorter version of the one I have in the URL) for 60,000 exact daily visits. ![]() This is due solely to the fact that I hit my buffer sides hard with backlinks. I haven't done it yet to the BMR posts as this might be a bit dangerous do to the fact that Google might one day figure out their network and devalue it but it sounds like an interesting experiment to do for maybe one or two pages. I always like to experiment with either two or three properties to see if the results are similar. One could be lucky or a fluke so that is why I have chose two sites for the 100 day experiment as well. Three would have been optimal, but due to my time constraints (still working on other sites) that would have been too much to do realistically. Keep the comments, questions, suggestions coming... |
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I hope that you are successful with that. Are you at the same stage as me, ahead or not started yet? Quote:
The algo changes do keep things interesting, but I haven't seen any devaluation on my sites (ones with strong foundations) and this is what I am attempting to continue here. Apart from BMR which is a bit on the grey line, however, until I finish building my own high PR blog network it will have to suffice. I would never recommend for anyone to use something like that as the only backlinking strategy as that could seriously backfire. Quote:
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good luck bro ... bookmarked this thread will see how it goes
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| I appreciate it, I looked at the bulk ping... but am still searching for something that can individually ping a list of links. I used to use pingdevice for that but it wouldn't ever complete the entire list and now simply shows an error upon submission. Might be something with the amount of links... but I can't be bothered to break up my lists. Let me know if you start offering something like that, very interested. |
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| Day 93 - Week One Update! It has been an interesting week in regards to the business. As I have never spent so much time working on the same sites, my patience has been tested beyond belief. There are so many other ideas and strategies going through my mind it is hard to stick with doing the same thing over and over. The niche sites make it easier as although the process I have made is similar... the topic changes often. I guess it is a good thing that I picked something which I was interested in at least a bit so that I do not go completely nuts. ![]() One process which was completely new to me was writing and submitting press releases. This is what has been accomplished within the last 7 days: Product Site 1 Press Release - webwire.com 8 pages added Sent 5250 blog posts to web 2.0 buffer sites Directory Power Submitter submission 35 article submissions Health Site 2 Press Releases - webwire.com / Press Release Submitter (900 submissions) / 10 high PR free services 8 pages added Sent 5250 blog posts to web 2.0 buffer sites Directory Power Submitter submission 35 article submissions The sites stats for end of week 1: Product site - 51 uniques per day (16+ from last week) Health site - 35 uniques per day (25+ from last week) I am not sharing the revenue yet as I am not really seeing much of a difference at this point. It seems that Adsense CPC has went down over the entire board as although the traffic for all of my sites increased by about 25% but the daily average is about the same. The point here is to get the traffic up substantially for both of these sites. Since I am still submitting them to directories, I want to keep my advertising and affiliate offers to a minimum as many of the better directory owners frown upon that. My largest challenge this week is that I am leaving on a short vacation from Thursday to Sunday and will be unable to work on the sites. There are a lot of things to still work on and it is very important to set up some more things so that the sites can keep getting backlinks and get at least a small but necessary content update. I want Google to send its spiders to them every week like clockwork. For those that are thinking of doing the same type of experiment as me, I will give this food for thought. Make sure that you have other offers/affiliates available in the same niche alongside adsense. This can make a huge difference later on for numerous reasons. Thanks for the support |
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Thanks for sharing your experiment. Great read!
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Keep it up with the great updates. I'm still following along. |
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Tom, is that you in the swimming pool? ![]() You may wish to start planning for a follow-up eBook and set it up for a WSO (to begin). There's no doubt that if you are successful then there's going to be a big demand for such an eBook! I'll write up a blog post too Tom and link to your thread here - the more folks to learn about this the better! Best wishes! Joseph |
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Keep up the great work, Tom! I'm excited to see how everything plays out - good luck! - Kasi |
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I can definitely feel the pressure rising when one of my mentors comes and visit the experiment ![]() That is me in the pool outside the beach house... do some of my best thinking there. Hope that gets the image of me being some fat guy whacking about on the keyboard out of your head... lol. If I do reach some type of success with this, and more importantly, the people request it... then I will consider an e-book. There is so much information within my head that it would be a bit interesting to see it hit the paper. In any case, I would definitely include an easy way to get the small niche sites ranking well in the first place (minimal work) so that the readers can even get to this step. Thank you for your support! | |
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great thread. in my opinion the real benefit here will come from posting quality content. i've tried various aspects of IM over the last few years and the real $ comes when i simply focus on throwing out solid gold content. |
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This is the first time I have went this route, so it feels a bit like treading into unknown territory. Tom | |
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Here was me thinking that you were a cool dude who would never sense pressure Tom, LOL! And you are quite right and you did remember - the image I had of you was the fat bald dude whacking away constantly at your computer day after day, night after night (and when I say "Whacking" I don't mean that sort ). That image sadly is no longer there. One quick question for now, if I may Tom... Do you feel that exact match domains are as easy to rank and hold that rank in Goog as they were previously? Keep up the fine work, sir! Regards Joseph |
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I feel the pressure... however I am not influenced nor phased by it. Sometimes I wish that I was a bit more as that could be a strong motivator. ![]() Would this be a better profile picture? ![]() As per your question, I have noticed after further experimentation that for the weakest of niches, exact domains are a bit quicker (not easier) to rank and tend to dance less when hit with links. These tests are still ongoing as I keep trying to fine tune my processes. Tom | |
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This is cool and I appreciate it. I hope you will keep up with it as so far 100% of these projects fail to get updated as promised.
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What's a product site? That could mean just about anything. |
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Hey Tom, I suspect that if you were that big guy you would not be so much floating on that yellow inflatable in the pool as you would be lying on the bottom of the pool (with your ice cream and pizza) ![]() As you mentioned a while back, chances are that a few more exact match domains will become available as lots of folks who got involved with IM fall by the way side, or find that they don't understand how to make money from ranking a webpage or pages even though they bought up a number of emd's in an early frenzy. Joseph |
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Great thread. Good luck. I shall follow with interest. In your initial post you said: Since I started, I have taken the best (in my opinion) out of the many courses available and now can easily make these sites. It would be good if you could summarize your thoughts/learning on this in one of your posts, sometime, as there are some of us that are still considering starting this type of process and you've already cracked teh code, so to speak. |
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It definitely could, what I mean is that on this site all I do is review products. For Example: - car Tires - hub caps - motorcycle tires - bike tires - brake pads (all within one niche) The health site is where someone is looking for help with their ailment. You can also set up a vocational site, educational site, software site... These all tend to perform a bit differently as it relates to Adsense and so I have picked two different ones. It is really up to you which way you decide to go. Quote:
If I was that fat... maybe I could simply float... no inflatables needed and keep my laptop on the stomach... ![]() Those exact domains are definitely becoming available. As I do my keyword research over again (on older keywords) there are already some now showing that weren't there a couple months ago. I also like to do a manual search on many keywords by simply typing in...... niche.com, niche.net, niche.org and see that so many are simply parked without getting any attention. It boils down to the people reading some course > getting overexcited > purchasing hundreds of domains > starting a challenge on WF > creating a couple sites > not getting results > becoming frustrated > e-mailing the course teacher a nasty letter > abandoning the WF challenge > looking for a normal job or reading another course.... rinse and repeat Quote:
As many of these types of posts have already been made... I do not really want to do the same thing over again. However, I do feel that I have a system down and if enough people are interested in this I might write something up on this as well(this is extra work for me though.... lol) Thanks for all of the comments, questions... keep them coming | |||
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Hey Tom, Could you talk a little bit about your on-page optimization for these sites. I am quite interested in that. |
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| Day 91 Last update before I'm off on a vacation (will still produce a larger update on Monday) Let me talk a bit about on-page optimization. I do treat the two sites a bit differently when it comes to the content with the health one being themed and optimized better, but the product one having more long tails included. Before writing an article I do one of two things. Either do a quick search in the Google tool for similar keywords, or type in the original keyword into google and look for related searches. The second way is less valuable in my opinion as there is no way of seeing the amount of traffic going to these... and some although looking good get less than 1 or 2 uniques per day. If they do sound good though I will note them down just to include within the article. It's easiest to learn from example so consider this one a freebie... lol Keyword: Kitchen utensils Step 1 - Type it into the keyword tool Step 2 - Copy a few of the higher related keywords [kitchen utensils list] 1,900 720 [list of kitchen utensils] 480 170 [silicone kitchen utensils] 480 210 [stainless steel kitchen utensils] 390 170 [kitchen utensils stores] 390 320 [antique kitchen utensils] 390 320 [wooden kitchen utensils] 390 210 [kitchen utensils gadgets] Step 3 - Clean up list kitchen utensils list list of kitchen utensils silicone kitchen utensils stainless steel kitchen utensils kitchen utensils stores antique kitchen utensils wooden kitchen utensils kitchen utensils gadgets Step 4 - select at least 5 additional keywords (often I get a larger list, but this is just to show the technique) kitchen utensils list silicone kitchen utensils stainless steel kitchen utensils antique kitchen utensils wooden kitchen utensils (all of these could work as their own categories, so write the first one / two paragraphs to introduce the user to the subject and then work in these ones underneath. Bold them so that the search engine knows they are important.) Step 5 - type in keyword into google.com and go to advanced.. related searches baking utensils serving utensils eating utensils grilling utensils bar utensils The last column looks interesting so I would place these in a sentence somewhere within the content... you want as much related stuff as possible. You can do much more than this and I do for the health site, but this is the bare minimum. Step 6 - find some images for your page... between one and five pictures per page with good descriptions, fill up with keywords, and point some images at other pages of the site for better siloing. Step 7 - write the content around 700+ words and up... never below 400, hopefully above 1000 words Step 8 (optional) - If you have web content studio... rip the theme out of the top 10 sites and really get the pages some love by Google. There is also software called WebSite Auditor which you can run your pages through to do additional tweaks. This might be above what most would ever think of doing but the first 7 steps are a good stepping stone. You can also cherry pick some additional long tails from market samurai, or whatever other program you use. I have tweaked some sites, and with minimal backlinking the smaller sites have ranked #1 in Google after a month or two and brought in between $5-$10 per day. One of the sites only had one page on it and only received a couple no follow links from blogs as well as two article submissions and I woke up one day to see it almost reach $15. Nothing special, maybe, but this was when I was initially starting out and I definitely learned a bit from each of these occurrences. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What has been done the last two days? I wrote 2 pages each for the sites and have been playing around with some other type of content which I will talk about next week... magnetic content. Each site is getting blog posts through BMR, setup 2 additional Squidoo lenses, and some high rank profile wheels to the sites while blasting both the profile wheels and Squidoo lenses with hundreds of blog posts. (all outsourced) I am still running the directory submissions... have hit around 9,000+ directories with Directory Power Submitter (first time using it, and so I don't know when they run out), enough to have to add money into my decaptcher account. The sites are definitely showing life with both the amount of traffic and money they bring in but I will leave those facts in for later updates as I deem them necessary. No pictures included in the tutorial as it is simply too much work for me to do that here Tomorrow I am off to Florida for a small vacation break but my fiance was nice enough to get us a place with an internet connection. A definite must for me as I always feel a need to be plugged in. |
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Great read - keep up the great work
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Thanks for sharing.. I am glad to read the information from u
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This is an excellent tutorial and I hope others are taking in these free lessons. It really shows how much time and effort is needed in order to rank a site - realistically. I've done some of this many years ago and have a couple of authority sites that still rank nicely. But, it took a long time to achieve that status. Sticking with it over the long haul is what produced consistent residual monthly income. Great job! |
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Tom how is each site structured. The information you have above is very interesting indeed. I just want to know what the structure of your sites are like. What is the internal linking like?
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Quick question. You mention in some of your earlier posts about keeping things natural looking. Isn't adding the sites to 9,000+ directories a bit spammy looking and un-natural? |
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Home page article about the main keyword links to five other keywords (each page has an article) link to a category called Articles or if the keyword was tires... I would call it "Tire accessories" A couple links to other .gov or .edu sites in the same theme. These show Google that I am here to educate people and not simply sell them something. That's basically it (always include the privacy policy, terms, contact etc... pages) The health site was set up in the same way but I have changed it to look more like an authority site. The home page is a directory, listing all of the categories and has links to the articles on it. The category pages all have articles in their theme within them. | |
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As I started testing it, I noticed that it scrolls through the different categories are most of the sites it simply skips because it does not find one that is related. Out of a 100 directories it maybe posts into 5-15 of them at the most. So let's say that on an average after running the program for a couple days I do get 900 submissions done, this would break down to maybe a 150 per day. Half of them are probably not going to be accepted or will send me an e-mail asking for a payment. That would be about 75 per day at the most... which would normally be too many for a newer site but consider this. If you have any experience with directory submission, you will know that it takes from a week to a month or more for the majority to get accepted. That spreads out the risk quite a bit and on top of that I believe that since Google already knows that this is an acceptable but forced type of gaining backlinks, they will not penalize you for getting them for a month or so and then stopping. Even with all of this said, I wouldn't do 9000 back to back.... I do around 1500 per day, pausing the program for a few hours and restarting it again.... gives it a bit of randomness as well. Hope that helps | |
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