Blog/web 2.0 network - quality over quantity

[xoon]

Lately I've been discussing with my friend creating blogs and mini websites linking to your main website.

He said that 1 self hosted blog/website on toplevel domain is worth more than 25 so called web 2.0 properties, especially new created subdomains.

Link wheels/blog farms/etc have been all the rage the last few years and with tools like senuke for example, that create hundreds of blogs with a push of a button, all web 2 hosts became flooded with junk. Getting links from livejournal or blogger is easy so they don't really have that much value anymore. But getting them from top level self hosted blogs/websites - well, it's much more complicated. That's why they are much more valuable.

He advised me instead of building 100s of web 2.0 sites just focus of a few proper blogs on a top lever domains (different IPs, no interlinking etc)

What do you think? I guess he has a point - quality over quantity, but I'm not sure if proportions are as high. Maybe it's more like 1=5 or 1=10

Plus I always at the back of my mind have the thought - the more places where you can drop your link the better. So I always waste a lot of time on creating more and more weak, hardly backlinked web 2.0 properties...

[catech]

Well a new site is not gonna outrank and established web20 site. I think a combo of both is key. If you had 100 pages of unique content to write then I would focus on building up your new site with at least 80 pages and the rest you could use on web20 to start building links to your new site.

[xoon]

Originally Posted by catech

Well a new site is not gonna outrank and established web20 site

But how is a new blogger/livejournal/tumblr blog "established"? It's a new subdomain with no links and no linkjuce.
And since all spammers link from those I doubt they get any additional points/trustrank because of a PR of the main domain.

[catech]

Try squidoo or hubpages. Even though the others are a sub domain and I know people say its as if its new to google, im not %100 about that.

In reality its gonna take time either way, you need links from other sites to get you going and you need to build up content on your own site.

If you want your site to build ranking and stay ranked you have to keep at it. Having great unique content on your site is gonna get you targeted traffic in the long run.

[xoon]

It takes some time/work either way but if my 20 domains were as good as 200 web properties that would make my life much easier.
I mean to create content for a few 100s websites would be a real pain (even just 5 pages each = 1000+ unique articles ).

[Tyler Abernethy]

not possitive that this is what your idea is

but check this out about IP addresses importance on your subject at hand

Multiple sites with different IP addresses


on top of that you should DEFINETLY do web2.0 sites as well


regards,
Tyler Abernethy

[xoon]

Originally Posted by Tyler Abernethy

not possitive that this is what your idea is

but check this out about IP addresses importance on your subject at hand

Yup, I know all my domains are on separate IPs

Originally Posted by Tyler Abernethy

on top of that you should DEFINETLY do web2.0 sites as well

But why? If my website is not in insanely competitive niche do I really need to waste my time on hundreds of web 2 blogs/websites?... I mean all of them (like newly created blogs) don't even have any linkjuce, I still have to spend time and/or money to link to them.

I guess I would like someone to tell me that my friend is not wrong and I can only focus on 20 self hosted blogs instead of spending my time creating and managing all those 2.0 junk sites...

[Tyler Abernethy]

Originally Posted by xoon

Yup, I know all my domains are on separate IPs



But why? If my website is not in insanely competitive niche do I really need to waste my time on hundreds of web 2 blogs/websites?... I mean all of them (like newly created blogs) don't even have any linkjuce, I still have to spend time and/or money to link to them.

I guess I would like someone to tell me that my friend is not wrong and I can only focus on 20 self hosted blogs instead of spending my time creating and managing all those 2.0 junk sites...

lol, your friend is right, what is your keyword? i will waste my time and money to get the top spot

lololol
see my point?

sketchy schemes can work, but if you want to get and hold the top spot you have to be willing to do the work, as is the case in anything that you would want to be good at...

for instance the algo just changed, and now everyone who only focused on article distribution is having to make changes, BUT if they had been smart enough to use multiple methods from the start, then that probably wouldnt have been such a headache

Tyler Abernethy