Who Uses Squidoo & Hubpages to Create a `Net` Around Their Site And Why Traffic Or Backlinks ?

[jimkirk1943]

Hi guys,

Just wondering exactly what the idea behind creating a `web` of web 2.0 sites around your money site is ?

Can anyone explain what they do, i understand the fact that Squidoo has a PR8 and if i was to create a page and backlink it i would be creating a good backlink but its when i hear about creating a `web` around my the site i`m wondering if i am supposed to be trying to catch traffic too ?

If i had a site on Blue widgets would i be looking to create Squidoo pages on low search terms and trying to rank them also and create the `web` around my site or do you just create the Squidoo page for high search terms not thinking about trying to rank the page but thinking about backlinking the page to pass the PR though to my main site ?

Can anyone explain ?

thanks Jim

[joseph7384]

I would use the same keywords as your money site. This does two things, it gives you backlinks from relevant sites and it betters your rankings in the search engines.

I would create the following sites Blogger, wordpress.com, Tumbler, Hub page and a Squidoo page.

Write posts in each of these sites using your keywords from your main site, anchor text a few keywords from each of these sites to your main site.

These are contextual backlinks which google likes more than forum signatures or even blog comments.

Joseph

P.S In order for this to work to your advantage, you would have had to of done the proper keyword research to begin with.

[jimkirk1943]

Originally Posted by joseph7384

I would use the same keywords as your money site. This does two things, it gives you backlinks from relevant sites and it betters your rankings in the search engines.

I would create the following sites Blogger, wordpress.com, Tumbler, Hub page and a Squidoo page.

Write posts in each of these sites using your keywords from your main site, anchor text a few keywords from each of these sites to your main site.

These are contextual backlinks which google likes more than forum signatures or even blog comments.

Joseph

P.S In order for this to work to your advantage, you would have had to of done the proper keyword research to begin with.

Thank you Joseph for this reply, So you are not at all concerned about sending traffic to the main site though these web 2.0 pages you build as you are building squidoo pages using your main keyword which should be quite competitive if theres any money in it so ranking a Squidoo page wouldn`t be worth your time as that would be better spent building backlinks to the main site ?

[Matt Ausin]

I'm absolutely in love about using Web 2.0 sites for backlinking!

Here's why.

First of all, though, forget the PR of their homepage. This is not at all what you're getting.

You create a new page, on their domain, which has no PR. It has to be indexed, ranked and so on.

But here's why I love them.

When you build a quality lense, hubpage, wordpress.com blog, weebly, and so on, on the same subject as your mainpage, do some backlinking work, that page has a very good chance to rank well. I think, at this point, it has something to do with the authority of the domain.

Subsequently, in time, it will have great backlinking power (well ranked pages hold authority in eyes of G), and you will have (as much as it is possible in a given situation) all the control over to where you link, what is on the page and so on.

The best thing is, that if you build several sites in one niche, you can use them for your new projects too.

[jimkirk1943]

Originally Posted by Matt Ausin

The best thing is, that if you build several sites in one niche, you can use them for your new projects too.

Hi Matt can you explain this statment please ?
Anyway yes i fully understand the power of Squidoo ect ect and of course if you actually start backlinking the lense enough to get its own PR then you`ve got a pretty good backlink there !
But i was just wondering if the guys who do this are.. actually choosing low comp keywords in the neich to build their Squidoo lense with and getting a small amount of traffic along with the power of the high PR domain of squidoo example if i built a site on `blue widgets` and this was my money page i could build a Squidoo lense on a low comp keyword like `best value blue widgets` on i could rank a long tail like this easy picking up the extra traffic and in the text on the lense i could have `blue widgets` anchor text to the money page also.

Or... Quite simply build a squidoo page on `blue widgets` not thinkig about ranking it

[nick1980]

Personally, I think it's also important to use these other sites as traffic generation tools...

Hubpages, Snipsly and Xomba, for instance, are particularly useful as they rank very well on Google. Therefore, if your main business website is unable to rank highly for one of your principal keywords, you can write articles/content for these sites instead (including that keyword in the title tag, h2, body copy etc) which will often fly to the top of the search results (as long as it's a long-tail keyword and not something too generic).

You can then direct your readers back to your main website. And naturally, the more relevant keywords you target for these pages, the more traffic you'll be able to generate. This is what people mean by creating a "web" around your site. You're essentially catching more and more visitors typing in the keywords relevant to your business, and bringing them back to your main site.

That's how I understand it anyway!

[jimkirk1943]

Originally Posted by nick1980

Personally, I think it's also important to use these other sites as traffic generation tools...

Hubpages, Snipsly and Xomba, for instance, are particularly useful as they rank very well on Google. Therefore, if your main business website is unable to rank highly for one of your principal keywords, you can write articles/content for these sites instead (including that keyword in the title tag, h2, body copy etc) which will often fly to the top of the search results (as long as it's a long-tail keyword and not something too generic).

You can then direct your readers back to your main website. And naturally, the more relevant keywords you target for these pages, the more traffic you'll be able to generate. This is what people mean by creating a "web" around your site. You're essentially catching more and more visitors typing in the keywords relevant to your business, and bringing them back to your main site.

That's how I understand it anyway!

Well yes but as you say thats ok for folks just starting out in IM but anyone who has learnt , on page seo, backlinking, backlinking tools, and has capital to invest isn`t going to be going after keywords that will rank well just because its on Squidoo if their own site is struggling to rank its because its a tough keyword

[Matt Ausin]

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Hi Matt can you explain this statment please ?
Anyway yes i fully understand the power of Squidoo ect ect and of course if you actually start backlinking the lense enough to get its own PR then you`ve got a pretty good backlink there !
But i was just wondering if the guys who do this are.. actually choosing low comp keywords in the neich to build their Squidoo lense with and getting a small amount of traffic along with the power of the high PR domain of squidoo example if i built a site on `blue widgets` and this was my money page i could build a Squidoo lense on a low comp keyword like `best value blue widgets` on i could rank a long tail like this easy picking up the extra traffic and in the text on the lense i could have `blue widgets` anchor text to the money page also.

Or... Quite simply build a squidoo page on `blue widgets` not thinkig about ranking it

What I meant was if I had a, for example, wordpress.com site built for backlinks for one niche for one site of mine, I would use it to backlink a new site in the same niche. Giving me, essentially, double of my moneys worth.

As for your question.. I'd choose a low competition, long tail keyword for my web 2.0 sites, since I believe that a web page that holds a good ranking over any keyword in google has far bigger authority as far as backlinks go than a site that well, just is there and doesn't rank for anything.

[Ben Armstrong]

I think what you're actually referring to is a link wheel. Do a search on the term here or in google and you'll get a better explanation of how it works and why.

[GeorgR.]

It's what's called a "buffer site". For example, if you plan to build many backlinks but are afraid your main money site might get penalized. Then you link from the web2.0 site to your main site and build links to the web2.0 site instead.

Furthermore sites like squidoo etc. *usually* enjoy high traffic and good rankings.

[jimkirk1943]

Originally Posted by Matt Ausin

What I meant was if I had a, for example, wordpress.com site built for backlinks for one niche for one site of mine, I would use it to backlink a new site in the same niche. Giving me, essentially, double of my moneys worth.

Ok got it yeah i can really see the benefit of that i think i will start to do it also, I do have a small network of WP blogs i auto post on and then add my profile backlinks for indexing and its started to work well .
Thanks for your time Matt

[raannight]

hi,

Always i posted the content into squidoo but that content is reach first in search engine but my targeted websites of that content sites is not reach more why...??? meet again.

[gittar1122]

Just wondering exactly what the idea behind creating a `web` of web 2.0 sites around your money site is ?

I am using Squidoo and Hubpages for getting quality backlinks for my money sites.

I am also doing high level of linkbuilding for my squidoo and hubpages in order to save my site from penalty of fast linkbuilding (its new site). This strategy is used by many people to save their money site.

If your niche is small and there is already little competition then I will not suggest you to write on exact topic on Squidoo or Hubpage, it will increase competition. In such cases if you wanted to use Suidoo or Hubpage then write on broad niche of your topic, it will help your site and will not increase competition in your niche.

Same is the case with article submission.

Thanks

[TiffanyDow]

I like to use web 2.0 sites - Squidoo, Hub Pages, etc. Here's why:

1.) If you're on Google, there's no way Google is giving your domain all top 10 spots on page 1, right? But your domain can be #1, your lens #2, your Hub #3, your EZA #4, and so on. You could dominate and effectively cast a wider net to funnel traffic into your money site.

2.) backlink yeah sure

3.) Authority. If I go to Google and type in my keyword phrase as a searcher and I open a lens in a new window and it's talking about your program...then I open the next result in a new window and it's a hub page talking about your program...and an EZA talking about your program...well, as an average consumer I may start believing you're the expert in that field if everyone's talking about you!

Tiff

[Sandra Martinez]

the original idea behind the web was to dominate first page of google. The reasoning is: if you own 10 out of 10 spots in first page, where do the traffic go?

so you use high PR websites that google loves and rank high fast.

it doens´t matter if you have a new domain and google doesn´t know you are there, if you put your information on first page through known properties, it is all you need.

this worked pretty well when it was released a couple of years ago, it broke the concept of trying to rank your site alone.

of course now everyone knows about it, so it is harder.

still, to use properties like squidoo and hubpages allows you to make a dent fast in a market... as you can have a page on first page within hours doing some pinging and bookmarking (it depends on the competition, etc).

Sandra

[Chri5123]

Yes the linkwheel is basically building up a lot of backlinks on high ranking or high page rank sites all around your main product site.

It used to work really well - this video explains it exactly:

SEO Link Wheel Explained | Traffic Is King

My advice now is do not try and "game" the search engines, the ironic thing is that you do not need to.

To get the top spots focus on providing quality content and building your own website or blog and you will get the 1st page in no time.

Chris

[Rickmci]

Originally Posted by TiffanyDow

I like to use web 2.0 sites - Squidoo, Hub Pages, etc. Here's why:

1.) If you're on Google, there's no way Google is giving your domain all top 10 spots on page 1, right? But your domain can be #1, your lens #2, your Hub #3, your EZA #4, and so on. You could dominate and effectively cast a wider net to funnel traffic into your money site.


Tiff

Yea exactly and having all those site backlinked to each other boost your ranking in of itself. This is a great way to dominate a market if you good at the SEO part of the plan. You could end up with several pages on page 1 and all pointing to the money site.

I know someone that often has 2 pages or so on page one for long tail keywords.

[jimkirk1943]

Turning into a nice thread ! Can i ask does a new Squidoo page act the same as a new domain when throwing large amounts of backlinks at it ?

Just so i`m clear if i was to create a squidoo lense wait until its indexed then throw some of my heavy backlinks at it maybe a SB blast would this send the Squidoo lense into a google penalty/sandbox/out of the top 200/ or what ever that dark place is called a few of my sites have visited for a few months after i blasted a new domain ? If so would they recover quicker than my own domains ?
Cheers Jim

[joseph7384]

Originally Posted by Paul Barrs

Tiffany,

Great one - this stands out to me above all else as the best reason. However, I've never done any of these link strategies - they simply take too long. I prefer to put the same strategy into action, but using sites that are *already* ranking first page on 'whatever'.



Joseph,

I had a look over your links from your sig file and compared the two. OK, nice going that you get page one on G for your # 1 search term, but as I compare it with your lens I'm left wondering how many of those articles do you use on both sites? How many times are they used on others sites?

Just wondering, as the .org ranks 3 or 4 places above your .com and seems to have a lot *less* content - but perhaps more unique....

Thoughts?

Paul

I never use the same exact content more than once, although my lens has an RSS feed from my blog which displays excerpts.

[Sylvia Meier]

I use Squidoo lenses much the same way Tiff laid it out. But I also use them because they are easy to build, rank quite quickly, and do get a fair amount of traffic from the internal site linking of Squidoo itself. And if you actually interact as Squidoo set it's site up to do, you'll find you rank even better, because you get more link juice from other parts of the sites, other people clicking through to your lens from other lenses and all that fun stuff. Plus, it can be fun to collect trophies and points while doing the normal internet marketing thing.

Best wishes,
Sylvia

[Sandra Martinez]

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Turning into a nice thread ! Can i ask does a new Squidoo page act the same as a new domain when throwing large amounts of backlinks at it ?

Just so i`m clear if i was to create a squidoo lense wait until its indexed then throw some of my heavy backlinks at it maybe a SB blast would this send the Squidoo lense into a google penalty/sandbox/out of the top 200/ or what ever that dark place is called a few of my sites have visited for a few months after i blasted a new domain ? If so would they recover quicker than my own domains ?
Cheers Jim

No, to backlink an internal page of an already established site doesn´t affect the whole domain.

You don´t need to wait for the page to be indexed to start building backlinks to it.

it is not necessary to hit it too hard. Squidoo has a lot of popularity, so it lands in first page pretty easy. I had one in a couple of hours and around 70 backlinks.

Now, squidoo has a whole community, and rules of its own. Things work better when you work the social side a bit and play nice.

Sandra

[Adam1981]

Hubpages are great for use as traffic funnels. Do some good keyword research, throw some backlinks on it and post a decent article with some sales blurb at the end and you can make a few sales. You won't make a fortune from a hub, but they take very little time to set up so you can build up a lot of them and the profit starts to really add up.

[Rob Greco]

I recently ran an experiment on leveraging squidoo that tests the possibilities of using duplicate plr content in efforts to rank within the serp. I imagine the data would of interest for those using squidoo.

http://goo.gl/lgQJB

[kevinw1]

Originally Posted by Rob Greco

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]I recently ran an experiment on leveraging squidoo that tests the possibilities of using duplicate plr content in efforts to rank within the serp. I imagine the data would of interest for those using squidoo.

Squidoo is currently coming down hard on ANY form of duplication: if they find your lens contains duplicate content it will likely be locked and/or your account banned. Same with hubpages. All these types of sites are running around in circles after the Panda update, trying to do what they think Google wants so as not to get slapped (again).

It's actually causing all kinds of problems for lensmasters who have used THEIR OWN content in other places as well as on lenses, and even worse, for people whose content has been stolen and published other places. Imagine having your high-ranking lens locked because someone else has copied it!

[jacked]

It basically has to do with creating a clean high quality link, and then juicing it up with building more links of any quality onto it. Here is a paragraph from a previous post of mine

"Also, looking at some of the Google patents you can see linking structure also can be a big help. Usually link quality is only judged through 1 layer of links, so if you link tons of spam to a Web 2.0 and then the Web 2.0 to your site, you will be free of most of the spam to your site, but will receive a strong Web 2.0 link. "

[Jonathan Beaton]

Originally Posted by Matt Ausin

I'm absolutely in love about using Web 2.0 sites for backlinking!

Here's why.

First of all, though, forget the PR of their homepage. This is not at all what you're getting.

You create a new page, on their domain, which has no PR. It has to be indexed, ranked and so on.

But here's why I love them.

When you build a quality lense, hubpage, wordpress.com blog, weebly, and so on, on the same subject as your mainpage, do some backlinking work, that page has a very good chance to rank well. I think, at this point, it has something to do with the authority of the domain.

Subsequently, in time, it will have great backlinking power (well ranked pages hold authority in eyes of G), and you will have (as much as it is possible in a given situation) all the control over to where you link, what is on the page and so on.

The best thing is, that if you build several sites in one niche, you can use them for your new projects too.

Could not agree more. I would (and do) pay good money for hub pages with solid authority in my niche.

[dotlinkmedia]

actually quite easy enough to prepare articles and pictures related.

[ann1986]

make sure each web 2.0 pages are unique!

[jacked]

Originally Posted by Matt Ausin

I'm absolutely in love about using Web 2.0 sites for backlinking!

Here's why.

First of all, though, forget the PR of their homepage. This is not at all what you're getting.

You create a new page, on their domain, which has no PR. It has to be indexed, ranked and so on.

But here's why I love them.

When you build a quality lense, hubpage, wordpress.com blog, weebly, and so on, on the same subject as your mainpage, do some backlinking work, that page has a very good chance to rank well. I think, at this point, it has something to do with the authority of the domain.

Subsequently, in time, it will have great backlinking power (well ranked pages hold authority in eyes of G), and you will have (as much as it is possible in a given situation) all the control over to where you link, what is on the page and so on.

The best thing is, that if you build several sites in one niche, you can use them for your new projects too.

Yes this is very true, and you can build tons of spammy links to them and you'll still be fine.

[Annel]

What I can say is that internet marketers and business pay me very well for creating professionalSquidoo lenses and Web 2.0 nets, they work very well for backlinking and link mass affects traffic

[Annel]

Originally Posted by jacked

Yes this is very true, and you can build tons of spammy links to them and you'll still be fine.

exactly G will never ban Squidoo or LiveJournal or Friendster )))))))

[jacked]

Originally Posted by Annel

exactly G will never ban Squidoo or LiveJournal or Friendster )))))))

Yes, I love building these types of pyramids for my new sites, because it is a small amount of links, but still powerful.