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Old 03-14-2011, 03:37 AM   #1
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Why is this site ranking page 1, spot 1 on google.com with no backlinks for a competitive keyword with 6,000 local searches?

The only thing i have noticed is it has VALID HXTML and VALID CSS.

There is no links showing in yahoo site explorer.

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It is hard to guess without looking at the site. If you use the free version of Traffic Travis and run the keyword through it, you can analyze the top 10 or top 20 sites and TT gives a rating in terms of difficulty for that niche. If you have Market Samurai, it is a great paid tool to analyze the niche.

If Yahoo Site Explorer does not show any backlinks, you can try a couple of alternatives. Either put the URL of the top ranking site in quotes in Google and the results give you a rough idea of the backlinks. Or you can try siteexplorer dot org to check the backlink count for that site.

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Old 03-14-2011, 03:59 AM   #3
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I've seen some new sites hit #1-2 for a while then drop to never come back.

OR good internal linking / a few really powerful backlinks that don't show in YSE (yet?)

Perhaps an attic I shall seek.
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:06 AM   #4
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Thanks warriors, any more suggestions?
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I have also checked in Woorank and no backlinks are showing for it.
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site age or 301 redirect

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May be the website's content is too good with excellent on-page optimization.

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Old 03-14-2011, 06:54 AM   #8
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Why not post a link to the page (not google search)?

Also 6k (per month) isn't really that competitive.

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Old 03-14-2011, 07:57 AM   #9
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What site are wer talking about, tough for people to comment if you dont link to it!

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Is it an exact match domain?

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Maybe it is a google property and they are once again showing their bias.

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Old 03-14-2011, 01:36 PM   #12
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No backlinks is meaningless. Has nothing to do with being #1.
Why do people still think backlinks=#1?

Depending on what you search, any site could come up #1.
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Why not post a link to the page (not google search)?

Also 6k (per month) isn't really that competitive.
Number of searches don't define competition.

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No backlinks is meaningless. Has nothing to do with being #1.
Why do people still think backlinks=#1?

Depending on what you search, any site could come up #1.
Backlinks or not.

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Old 03-14-2011, 02:59 PM   #14
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In alot of cases old domain redirects are used but there could be a number of factors. Backlinks matter its that simple, internal pages can rank with no backlinks purely running on the domains authority , how long they stay there however is another matter and is down to how competitive that term is. To say backlinks are meaningless for a URL is like saying my car will run without petrol. ( and no it isnt a hybrid )

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Care to share the URL?

6000 monthly searches? How do you know that?

Could be that the backlinsk are too new to show up in YSE. Some of my websites have hundreds of backlinks, but only 2-6 show up in YSE site explorer.

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Ok warriors here is the url www.bestgamingmousestore.com .

Can the SEO experts shed some light on this domain and tell me why its ranking so high with about 8 backlinks now showing in yahoo site explorer.
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What is the keyword?

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Old 03-14-2011, 07:50 PM   #18
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Ok warriors here is the url www.bestgamingmousestore.com .

Can the SEO experts shed some light on this domain and tell me why its ranking so high with about 8 backlinks now showing in yahoo site explorer.

good catch - it looks like you should have no problem catching many of the related long tail phrases that go with it. Your cnet links were a good bet. People get too wrapped up in the nofollow and lose out. You have the right strategy. Go high authority even if nofollow.

Now, "gaming mouse" may be a bit of a challenge. Guest blog at a few places and keep the reviews on a regular schedule and you'll place

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What's the keyword? They're #7 for "best gaming mouse store," but I can't imagine that bringing in much traffic at all.

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what is the keyword? is it a "good" keyword that you use?
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because this site is relevant for that keyword.

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Old 03-15-2011, 01:00 AM   #22
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Wow, so many people replied to something that doesn't exist (the site OP is talking about).

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I enjoy reading different idea"s, it gets me more knowledge to learned.

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Old 04-27-2011, 02:57 PM   #24
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LOL, It's not even his site.

It's mine.

Competition Research Eh?

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Yahoo and Bing only index the ---- most ---- relevant links.
Google index only relevant links, but yahoo is like "Hey pal, I won't pay you until you finish bulding my house garden."

In shortly, Google is like: Make a good job and get payied.
Yahoo is like: Be the best one and get your wage.

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Old 04-27-2011, 11:25 PM   #26
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Number of backlinks is meaningless. Period.

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Well this thread is now a backlink for it.

Did anyone post the keyword that this site is ranking for?

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Old 04-28-2011, 12:44 AM   #28
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I use WooRank toolbar in my bowser for besgamingmousestore dot com to day I found:
backlink according to google = 22;
backlink according to Yahoo = 1986;
backling according to Bing = 7;
backlink according to alexa = 4;
Alexa rank = 4,842,863;
Pages index in google = 124;
Pages index in Yahoo = 47;
pages index in Bing = 3
PR = 0;
and with SEO XRAY I found:
META description:
Which is the Best Gaming Mouse of 2010 / 2011? We check out the Top 10 Gaming mice from Logitech, Razer and Cyborg. We have the Naga Epic, RAT 9, G9x and more. (34 words/127 chars)
META keywords: best gaming mouse,best gaming mice,best gaming mouse 2011,best gaming mouse 2010,Top gaming mouse,Top Gaming Mice,gaming mouse,gaming mice,gaming mouse reviews,gaming mice reviews,Best Gaming Mouse,Gaming Mouse,Logitech,Razer (24 words/202 chars)


Anyway, which is keywords are you used?
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It is impossible for a site to rank on 1st page without backlinks. But still check the backlinks in Google with "link:site url"
I think it must show the backlinks.

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I have check it with rapidsitecheck and it show 2038 backlink to the site.
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Though only 7 backlinks now, those backlink linked to high PageRank websites, no-follow or dofollow? I didn't check. Because I really doubt when you search which keyword this website will be in the page 1 and #1, I checked the total 14 keywords in the website, no one is in page 1 #1.
And 6,000 local search? Where did you get this number?

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Default Re: Why Is This Site Ranking Page 1, Spot 1 with No Backlinks?

Obviously the site is now well over a month old, it has about 2000 Yahoo Listed Backlinks, with more it hasn't found. I add more each day. All sorts of keywords, long tail etc.

Ranking Keywords, depending on which server is serving.

top 10 gaming mice
best gaming mouse 2011
logitech g9x driver
what is the best gaming mouse
logitech g9x drivers
best gaming mice 2011
top gaming mice
best mouse 2011
best wireless gaming mouse 2011
top gaming mouse 2011
razergaming
logitech g500 drivers
logitech g500 drivers windows 7
logitech g500 driver
best gaming mouse 2010
top gaming mice 2011
best gaming mouse?

The site was up until the 26th April hitting all the above, First Page, Between Positions 1 and 10.

There are hundreds of others in Webmaster Tools between 10th and XXXth.

It isn't showing again in the searches. Google is funny.
It did this before and just did not appear for a few days. I was told it was because the site was new and Google has lots of Organic Search servers and it depends which it uses.

It sells a mouse a day on average. I thought about putting it on Flippa but I haven't had much luck on that site.

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Best Gaming Mouse (Main Site Keywords)

6th on Yahoo
6th on Bing

Usually 5th-6th on Google.

Webmaster Tools, last 30 days for: Best Gaming Mouse

Impressions 4500
Clicks 500
Average Position 15th

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It is impossible for a site to rank on 1st page without backlinks. But still check the backlinks in Google with "link:site url"
I think it must show the backlinks.
This is absurd. While most sites don't land on page 1 without any backlinking a few do, especially for long tail exact domains.

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