High PR but Low Link Value?

Knowledge Kick · 03-14-2011, 02:59 PM

Hey Guys,

I've been lurking around the forums for awhile now and finally decided to jump in. I've been using SEO Spyglass to check out my competitors backlinks. I really want to jump to the top for these certain keywords. While going through their backlinks I noticed that one of the pages that links to them has a PR4 from a site with PR6. From that, I thought the link should hold a lot of weight but under the "Link Value" column there is only a value of .001. Does that seem right to you?

Under "Links Back" it says YES by the way so I don't think it's a NoFollow.

Any input on this?

Thanks in advance!

iAmNameLess · 03-14-2011, 03:02 PM

Just because the page is of a certain PR that doesn't mean its actual trust rank is that high, and it doesn't mean you get a lot of juice from that. Pages that are saturated in links are of very little to no value.

BenoitT · 03-14-2011, 03:02 PM

Maybe it doesn't have a lot of weight because both site have a link toward the other site. Don't analyze PR and backlinks too much you will end up losing a lot of time. It can also be because they other website isn't relevant enough.

sndrsndv · 03-14-2011, 03:09 PM

i wouldnt take notice of the link value in spyglass only google knows the true value of links. Try and get all the high pr links your competitor has and you will more then likely rank above them with time

candem · 11-23-2011, 09:26 AM

SEO Spyglass basically uses a "Pagerank / no of links formula". So they heavily discount links from high PR pages that have many outgoing links. In this formula a link from a PR2 with only one outgoing link is worth more than a link from a PR6 with six outgoing links.

Most SEO's would disagree with this and most of us tend to ignore the Link Value.

krishacetravison · 11-23-2011, 10:04 AM

Don't be bothered by the numbers shown to you...If you have a chance to get link juice from those links, go and get them.

BenJackson · 11-23-2011, 03:57 PM

PageRank passed through a link =

[(PageRank -10%) / Total number of links (IBL & OBL)]

= PR or "link value" passed through your link

P.S. There are many other metrics for evaluating a link.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knowledge Kick

Hey Guys,

I've been lurking around the forums for awhile now and finally decided to jump in. I've been using SEO Spyglass to check out my competitors backlinks. I really want to jump to the top for these certain keywords. While going through their backlinks I noticed that one of the pages that links to them has a PR4 from a site with PR6. From that, I thought the link should hold a lot of weight but under the "Link Value" column there is only a value of .001. Does that seem right to you?

Under "Links Back" it says YES by the way so I don't think it's a NoFollow.

Any input on this?

Thanks in advance!

artion · 11-23-2011, 04:53 PM

You can check some others competitors backlinks and choose to use only dofollow they have

koreSEO · 11-23-2011, 05:06 PM

try getting web 2.0 backlinks

prcys · 11-24-2011, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knowledge Kick

Hey Guys,

I've been lurking around the forums for awhile now and finally decided to jump in. I've been using SEO Spyglass to check out my competitors backlinks. I really want to jump to the top for these certain keywords. While going through their backlinks I noticed that one of the pages that links to them has a PR4 from a site with PR6. From that, I thought the link should hold a lot of weight but under the "Link Value" column there is only a value of .001. Does that seem right to you?

Under "Links Back" it says YES by the way so I don't think it's a NoFollow.

Any input on this?

Thanks in advance!

If you get the backlinks from the high pr site then it does not mean that you will get the link juice for your site of the root domain pr , No. But you will get the link weightage of the page that from where you have get that backlink as each page has the separate value in every site.

Matt Broody · 11-27-2011, 01:22 PM

You need pages with actual high pr and low OBL

like here

The Ataxian - The LG15 Universe
Daafeet - Muxaadaro: Shiikh Cabduqaadir Baajuuri Part 1

dadamson · 11-27-2011, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Broody

You need pages with actual high pr and low OBL

^This.

You also gotta remember than PR is not everything, it is updated real-time to Google internally but we only get updated to the status every few months, so the PR could be long-gone but still showing up in the tools.

Just get the links and move one, no reason to stress over whether to pursue or not.

RevSEO · 11-28-2011, 12:05 AM

PageRank is a very important factor when deciding backlinks.
It's the same reason that when you really look at the top SERP results
you'll see a strong correlation of high PageRank links.

If PageRank wasn't important you can bet your butt that there
wouldn't bee so many link vendors and services that are based
on PageRank. Let's face it, the secret would be out of the bag by
now especially this far into the SEO "game".

Dadamson is right though, PageRank shown by the toolbar is old.
Although there was recently an update a few weeks ago so it isn't
that old.

If you are equating what type of links to get, don't waste your time
with lower quality Web 2.0, non-existant PR type of links. Go for the
high PageRank links every time.

03-14-2011, 02:59 PM	#1
Knowledge Kick Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 71 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	High PR but Low Link Value? Hey Guys, I've been lurking around the forums for awhile now and finally decided to jump in. I've been using SEO Spyglass to check out my competitors backlinks. I really want to jump to the top for these certain keywords. While going through their backlinks I noticed that one of the pages that links to them has a PR4 from a site with PR6. From that, I thought the link should hold a lot of weight but under the "Link Value" column there is only a value of .001. Does that seem right to you? Under "Links Back" it says YES by the way so I don't think it's a NoFollow. Any input on this? Thanks in advance!

03-14-2011, 03:02 PM	#2
iAmNameLess Smoke Free since Apr 6th War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: MO/IL Posts: 3,601 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,091 Times in 617 Posts Social Networking	Re: High PR but Low Link Value? Just because the page is of a certain PR that doesn't mean its actual trust rank is that high, and it doesn't mean you get a lot of juice from that. Pages that are saturated in links are of very little to no value.
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BenoitT Super HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 473 Thanks: 21 Thanked 74 Times in 55 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: High PR but Low Link Value? Maybe it doesn't have a lot of weight because both site have a link toward the other site. Don't analyze PR and backlinks too much you will end up losing a lot of time. It can also be because they other website isn't relevant enough.
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03-14-2011, 03:09 PM	#4
sndrsndv Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 31 Thanks: 1 Thanked 11 Times in 4 Posts Contact Info	Re: High PR but Low Link Value? i wouldnt take notice of the link value in spyglass only google knows the true value of links. Try and get all the high pr links your competitor has and you will more then likely rank above them with time
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11-23-2011, 09:26 AM	#5
candem Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: High PR but Low Link Value? SEO Spyglass basically uses a "Pagerank / no of links formula". So they heavily discount links from high PR pages that have many outgoing links. In this formula a link from a PR2 with only one outgoing link is worth more than a link from a PR6 with six outgoing links. Most SEO's would disagree with this and most of us tend to ignore the Link Value.

11-23-2011, 10:04 AM	#6
krishacetravison Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 65 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: High PR but Low Link Value? Don't be bothered by the numbers shown to you...If you have a chance to get link juice from those links, go and get them.

11-23-2011, 04:53 PM	#8
artion Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Romania Posts: 82 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: High PR but Low Link Value? You can check some others competitors backlinks and choose to use only dofollow they have
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koreSEO Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: High PR but Low Link Value? try getting web 2.0 backlinks

11-27-2011, 01:22 PM	#11
Matt Broody www.SeoDataService.com War Room Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 925 Thanks: 16 Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts Contact Info	Re: High PR but Low Link Value? You need pages with actual high pr and low OBL like here The Ataxian - The LG15 Universe Daafeet - Muxaadaro: Shiikh Cabduqaadir Baajuuri Part 1
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