Google Head Scratcher

Fanciadance · 03-15-2011, 08:28 AM

Hello everyone,

I'm hoping that someone could shed light on why I can't seem to rank on #1 for my targeted term (we'll use "Sour Lemons" as the example):

SERP for the term Sour Lemons displays:

competitor site (Rank #1)

Title: Sour Lemons
PR1 | Links to Page: 0 | Links to Domain: 4,560,982 | Age: Mar 16, 2005

my site (Rank #2)

Title: Sour Lemons - Why To Eat Them Whole
PR1 | Links to Page: 10 | Links to Domain: 19,956,194 | Domain Age: Aug 19, 2003

I would really like to kick off my competitor once and for all from #1, though I am at a loss as to what other SEO factors I may be missing to achieve this...Could it just have to do with the Page Title even though I have more backlinks?

What are your thoughts? Suggestions, etc....

GeorgR. · 03-15-2011, 08:37 AM

"thoughts" wont get far here

Would have to see the site, probably some on-site stuff to optimize. Look at the content maybe.

calfred · 03-15-2011, 08:39 AM

If this page is really important to you (which sounds like it does because you wanna beat the number 1 guy so much), then simply backlink more and more and more.

paulgl · 03-15-2011, 08:39 AM

We don't know and cannot answer that. We don't know how
the google love is obtained. It is obtained through a variety
of reasons, and you may never be able to know it off.

BUT...you probably rank #1 for other reworking of your keywords.

Nobody is going to tell you 100% how to dethrone a #1.

Sometimes it can't be done unless the site goes belly-up.

I think you are somehow making the same mistake others do.
Equating #1 to backlinks. It's more than that.

Their page could be optimized better, have authority, and
google trustworthiness. All fudge factors.

Paul

yukon · 03-15-2011, 10:12 AM

Low quality/higher quantity backlinks will never beat higher quality (PR/authority) backlinks.

MaxReferrals · 03-15-2011, 01:39 PM

Post more info on the competitor, or run them thru Samuari and share the results.

markowe · 03-15-2011, 02:29 PM

Am I missing something here? These domains are 6 years old or more and are packing MILLIONS of backlinks to their root domain! That has GOT to count for something!

What kinds of links do they have?

Mmmm... lemons.

03-15-2011, 08:28 AM	#1
Fanciadance Fanciadance War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Leyland Posts: 24 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Google Head Scratcher Hello everyone, I'm hoping that someone could shed light on why I can't seem to rank on #1 for my targeted term (we'll use "Sour Lemons" as the example): SERP for the term Sour Lemons displays: competitor site (Rank #1) Title: Sour Lemons PR1 \| Links to Page: 0 \| Links to Domain: 4,560,982 \| Age: Mar 16, 2005 my site (Rank #2) Title: Sour Lemons - Why To Eat Them Whole PR1 \| Links to Page: 10 \| Links to Domain: 19,956,194 \| Domain Age: Aug 19, 2003 I would really like to kick off my competitor once and for all from #1, though I am at a loss as to what other SEO factors I may be missing to achieve this...Could it just have to do with the Page Title even though I have more backlinks? What are your thoughts? Suggestions, etc....
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03-15-2011, 08:37 AM	#2
GeorgR. Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 6,061 Blog Entries: 16 Thanks: 72 Thanked 915 Times in 602 Posts Social Networking	Re: Google Head Scratcher "thoughts" wont get far here Would have to see the site, probably some on-site stuff to optimize. Look at the content maybe.
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calfred Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Malaysia Posts: 501 Thanks: 295 Thanked 50 Times in 42 Posts Contact Info	Re: Google Head Scratcher If this page is really important to you (which sounds like it does because you wanna beat the number 1 guy so much), then simply backlink more and more and more.
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paulgl Plundering the Web War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 4,849 Thanks: 804 Thanked 1,199 Times in 886 Posts	Re: Google Head Scratcher We don't know and cannot answer that. We don't know how the google love is obtained. It is obtained through a variety of reasons, and you may never be able to know it off. BUT...you probably rank #1 for other reworking of your keywords. Nobody is going to tell you 100% how to dethrone a #1. Sometimes it can't be done unless the site goes belly-up. I think you are somehow making the same mistake others do. Equating #1 to backlinks. It's more than that. Their page could be optimized better, have authority, and google trustworthiness. All fudge factors. Paul
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03-15-2011, 10:12 AM	#5
yukon SEO Strategist War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 6,532 Thanks: 355 Thanked 1,992 Times in 1,273 Posts	Re: Google Head Scratcher Low quality/higher quantity backlinks will never beat higher quality (PR/authority) backlinks.
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03-15-2011, 01:39 PM	#6
MaxReferrals Kahuna Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Blairsville, GA, USA Posts: 1,261 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 306 Thanked 208 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Google Head Scratcher Post more info on the competitor, or run them thru Samuari and share the results.
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03-15-2011, 02:29 PM	#7
markowe The Wordbay Guy War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,531 Thanks: 185 Thanked 315 Times in 191 Posts Social Networking	Re: Google Head Scratcher Am I missing something here? These domains are 6 years old or more and are packing MILLIONS of backlinks to their root domain! That has GOT to count for something! What kinds of links do they have? Mmmm... lemons.
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