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Old 03-17-2011, 03:45 AM   #1
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Default KILL Your Adwords 'Mentality' to Be in Facebook Advertising.

I just share it in another thread however i though more warriors may find it useful
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Before you even create your first FB campaign, you need to work on your mentality. Forget everything you learned from Google adwords. And let your mind get ideas of 'Likes' not 'keyword'. Some practical differentiation:

LIKE vs Keywords

> Keywords are what people search for BUT Likes are one people already like and interested to know/learn more about it (that's why they 'like' your fanpage to get updated)

> Keywords are "Cooking" "Cook Books" however same people will LIKE "I love cooking", "I love sewing" etc. In your campaign, under 'Like and Interest' column, you can start with "I love (Niche)". If you are not satisfied with the number of audience then use "I Like (Niche)", so what ever people you get are exact people who 'like' your niche and thus highly targeted.

Some further practical tips:

> Country: Only select one country in one ad campaign. Split test same ad with different country.

> GENDER: Go to quantcast.com and enter your keyword to see demographics. From my experience "Offer" such as CPA's are either targeted to Man or Women. If you are targeting both, you will get irrelevant 'views' this higher CPC (I am talking about using CPM model)

> Age: Again, from my experience go for 20+ if you are promoting FREE CPA offers such as email/zip submits or music/celebrity offer however if they need to put there credit card out (for clickbank or trial offers) the target 25-50 in age, as over 50 people are kind of "not okay" with putting out credit card on compter

> GOLDEN RULE: There is an option called "Target on there Birthday", this option alone can get you $0.02/click if used smartly. Like you can place you ad
Title: "Happy Birthday!"
Body: I know its your birthday, here's a free gift for you! This will make your day!
Image: a cute baby pic with birthday cap (only face with border)

> EDUCATION: I have seen people generally not talking about this particular field. However let me tell you, in my test i have found that "Credit Card" offers (where user need to enter credit card number) works out best when you select "College Grad".

> Workplaces : This is another golden target if used properly. Sample ad:
Target "Microsoft"
Ad Headline: Working in Microsoft?
Content: I can feel the work pressure. Why not meet new singles in your area? Click here to know how!
Image: Some geek picture with blurred microsoft logo
URL: Any dating offer (good if you can link to female profile directly, if you have selected "Interested in Men" from another option)

I just want to say that you need to create 10 ads for one offer, like in one ad change picture, in another one, change headline, in next one change content, in next one, change age range or sex etc

From "Pricing", i recommend for for "CPM" model, and keep your bid $0.05+ then the show amount, test with 100k impressions and check your CTR. If you are getting ample clicks and satisfied with CPC it shows (based on your conversion) then simply go for same campaign in DIFFERENT country to scale it.

Also, i am sharing something that i DO. all practicle. I wont offer you some "Get Fbadsfree" course here. Its for my lovely warriors. Use it!

And do i qualify to share this information?

From one of my campaign, you decide:

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I just share it in another thread however i though more warriors may find it useful
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Before you even create your first FB campaign, you need to work on your mentality. Forget everything you learned from Google adwords. And let your mind get ideas of 'Likes' not 'keyword'. Some practical differentiation:

LIKE vs Keywords

> Keywords are what people search for BUT Likes are one people already like and interested to know/learn more about it (that's why they 'like' your fanpage to get updated)

> Keywords are "Cooking" "Cook Books" however same people will LIKE "I love cooking", "I love sewing" etc. In your campaign, under 'Like and Interest' column, you can start with "I love (Niche)". If you are not satisfied with the number of audience then use "I Like (Niche)", so what ever people you get are exact people who 'like' your niche and thus highly targeted.

Some further practical tips:

> Country: Only select one country in one ad campaign. Split test same ad with different country.

> GENDER: Go to quantcast.com and enter your keyword to see demographics. From my experience "Offer" such as CPA's are either targeted to Man or Women. If you are targeting both, you will get irrelevant 'views' this higher CPC (I am talking about using CPM model)

> Age: Again, from my experience go for 20+ if you are promoting FREE CPA offers such as email/zip submits or music/celebrity offer however if they need to put there credit card out (for clickbank or trial offers) the target 25-50 in age, as over 50 people are kind of "not okay" with putting out credit card on compter

> GOLDEN RULE: There is an option called "Target on there Birthday", this option alone can get you $0.02/click if used smartly. Like you can place you ad
Title: "Happy Birthday!"
Body: I know its your birthday, here's a free gift for you! This will make your day!
Image: a cute baby pic with birthday cap (only face with border)

> EDUCATION: I have seen people generally not talking about this particular field. However let me tell you, in my test i have found that "Credit Card" offers (where user need to enter credit card number) works out best when you select "College Grad".

> Workplaces : This is another golden target if used properly. Sample ad:
Target "Microsoft"
Ad Headline: Working in Microsoft?
Content: I can feel the work pressure. Why not meet new singles in your area? Click here to know how!
Image: Some geek picture with blurred microsoft logo
URL: Any dating offer (good if you can link to female profile directly, if you have selected "Interested in Men" from another option)

I just want to say that you need to create 10 ads for one offer, like in one ad change picture, in another one, change headline, in next one change content, in next one, change age range or sex etc

From "Pricing", i recommend for for "CPM" model, and keep your bid $0.05+ then the show amount, test with 100k impressions and check your CTR. If you are getting ample clicks and satisfied with CPC it shows (based on your conversion) then simply go for same campaign in DIFFERENT country to scale it.

Also, i am sharing something that i DO. all practicle. I wont offer you some "Get Fbadsfree" course here. Its for my lovely warriors. Use it!

And do i qualify to share this information?

From one of my campaign, you decide:
Wow. Weirdly enough, I'm planning to set up my first facebook campaign this weekend so amazing timing!

Seriously, you should sell that.

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Wow. Weirdly enough, I'm planning to set up my first facebook campaign this weekend so amazing timing!

Seriously, you should sell that.
Thanks,

I have just shown some basics, lot to come in this thread

Glad you like it!

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nice one carson.i used to do fb ads way back using cpc.clicks were cheap and i got tonnes of em for my free cd local offerbut the ads seem to dry up after awhile.
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nice one carson.i used to do fb ads way back using cpc.clicks were cheap and i got tonnes of em for my free cd local offerbut the ads seem to dry up after awhile.
Yup, you need to put more and more campaign. Over the time you will see higher CPC as people get 'blind' to the repeated image ads.
So, you can change the image and put new ads.

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An intelligent and useful post.

Alright.

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Facebook advertising is the next big thing. It will give Google a headache someday, but in the meantime I'll try to get some of what's left of Google before I 'cross over.'

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An intelligent and useful post.

Alright.
Thanks Ken, facebook advertisement is also about number game. For one offer try to get 50 ads up (5 ads with 10 variations)

Initially it may take you some money to test all offers however once you got a gold (which is not that difficult) you will have avalanche of $0.02/click traffic to any of your damn offer

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Thank you for the great post. I have been using Facebook advertisements for a while and these are great tips that I think everyone should follow.

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Thank you for the great post. I have been using Facebook advertisements for a while and these are great tips that I think everyone should follow.
Hi Brian,

Glad you like it. The BIGGEST factor in your FB advertising is the use of "Image". Always use Dark BORDER image and yellow background.

Your CTR will make/break the campaign.

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Great post, if you are looking into CPC advertising.
Its not about CPC mode, its about CPM. CPM is wayyy cheaper then CPC once you get the correct ad format with image.

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Wow. Very interesting information. Thank yoU!

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I just share it in another thread however i though more warriors may find it useful
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Before you even create your first FB campaign, you need to work on your mentality. Forget everything you learned from Google adwords. And let your mind get ideas of 'Likes' not 'keyword'. Some practical differentiation:

LIKE vs Keywords

> Keywords are what people search for BUT Likes are one people already like and interested to know/learn more about it (that's why they 'like' your fanpage to get updated)

> Keywords are "Cooking" "Cook Books" however same people will LIKE "I love cooking", "I love sewing" etc. In your campaign, under 'Like and Interest' column, you can start with "I love (Niche)". If you are not satisfied with the number of audience then use "I Like (Niche)", so what ever people you get are exact people who 'like' your niche and thus highly targeted.

Some further practical tips:

> Country: Only select one country in one ad campaign. Split test same ad with different country.

> GENDER: Go to quantcast.com and enter your keyword to see demographics. From my experience "Offer" such as CPA's are either targeted to Man or Women. If you are targeting both, you will get irrelevant 'views' this higher CPC (I am talking about using CPM model)

> Age: Again, from my experience go for 20+ if you are promoting FREE CPA offers such as email/zip submits or music/celebrity offer however if they need to put there credit card out (for clickbank or trial offers) the target 25-50 in age, as over 50 people are kind of "not okay" with putting out credit card on compter

> GOLDEN RULE: There is an option called "Target on there Birthday", this option alone can get you $0.02/click if used smartly. Like you can place you ad
Title: "Happy Birthday!"
Body: I know its your birthday, here's a free gift for you! This will make your day!
Image: a cute baby pic with birthday cap (only face with border)

> EDUCATION: I have seen people generally not talking about this particular field. However let me tell you, in my test i have found that "Credit Card" offers (where user need to enter credit card number) works out best when you select "College Grad".

> Workplaces : This is another golden target if used properly. Sample ad:
Target "Microsoft"
Ad Headline: Working in Microsoft?
Content: I can feel the work pressure. Why not meet new singles in your area? Click here to know how!
Image: Some geek picture with blurred microsoft logo
URL: Any dating offer (good if you can link to female profile directly, if you have selected "Interested in Men" from another option)

I just want to say that you need to create 10 ads for one offer, like in one ad change picture, in another one, change headline, in next one change content, in next one, change age range or sex etc

From "Pricing", i recommend for for "CPM" model, and keep your bid $0.05+ then the show amount, test with 100k impressions and check your CTR. If you are getting ample clicks and satisfied with CPC it shows (based on your conversion) then simply go for same campaign in DIFFERENT country to scale it.

Also, i am sharing something that i DO. all practicle. I wont offer you some "Get Fbadsfree" course here. Its for my lovely warriors. Use it!

And do i qualify to share this information?

From one of my campaign, you decide:

This is Golden! Thanks!
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Some really useful info there ! The strategy to target users by birthday and workplace sounds good! I tried Facebook advertising (CPC) long back and had a hard time getting my ad approved. Not sure if anything has changed with the way they work but time to put some your suggestions to use !
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Thanks will try it out.. having some difficulties now with ppc

Looking for a JV partner to market an ebook:) Pm if interested
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Hi, thanks for the thread.

I've experienced a little trouble with facebook ppc lately. I get the ads approved, and then after 1-3 clicks, my traffic dries up completely. ZERO impressions.

Any clue why this happens?
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I am interested in learning how to get $0.05 clicks with facebook. From what I've read I will need to use the CPM model, and try to create as many Ads as I can? Targeting is not a problem for me, my problem is on facebook, even with CPM, my clicks would cost at least $0.50-$1.00.
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To be honest, for me i feel that facebook CTR is much better comparing with adwords... but conversion rate... adwords is more... so if you just wanna create awareness, then go for Facebook ads. =)
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Hey man, thanks a lot for the well thought out article. I looked for the "thanks" button on your post but couldn't see it, so I thought I'd just let you know: THANKS

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[quote=carsonrathi;3545798]I just share it in another thread however i though more warriors may find it useful
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Before you even create your first FB campaign, you need to work on your mentality. Forget everything you learned from Google adwords. And let your mind get ideas of 'Likes' not 'keyword'. Some practical differentiation:

LIKE vs Keywords

> Keywords are what people search for BUT Likes are one people already like and interested to know/learn more about it (that's why they 'like' your fanpage to get updated)

> Keywords are "Cooking" "Cook Books" however same people will LIKE "I love cooking", "I love sewing" etc. In your campaign, under 'Like and Interest' column, you can start with "I love (Niche)". If you are not satisfied with the number of audience then use "I Like (Niche)", so what ever people you get are exact people who 'like' your niche and thus highly targeted.

Some further practical tips:

> Country: Only select one country in one ad campaign. Split test same ad with different country.

> GENDER: Go to quantcast.com and enter your keyword to see demographics. From my experience "Offer" such as CPA's are either targeted to Man or Women. If you are targeting both, you will get irrelevant 'views' this higher CPC (I am talking about using CPM model)

> Age: Again, from my experience go for 20+ if you are promoting FREE CPA offers such as email/zip submits or music/celebrity offer however if they need to put there credit card out (for clickbank or trial offers) the target 25-50 in age, as over 50 people are kind of "not okay" with putting out credit card on compter

> GOLDEN RULE: There is an option called "Target on there Birthday", this option alone can get you $0.02/click if used smartly. Like you can place you ad
Title: "Happy Birthday!"
Body: I know its your birthday, here's a free gift for you! This will make your day!
Image: a cute baby pic with birthday cap (only face with border)

> EDUCATION: I have seen people generally not talking about this particular field. However let me tell you, in my test i have found that "Credit Card" offers (where user need to enter credit card number) works out best when you select "College Grad".

> Workplaces : This is another golden target if used properly. Sample ad:
Target "Microsoft"
Ad Headline: Working in Microsoft?
Content: I can feel the work pressure. Why not meet new singles in your area? Click here to know how!
Image: Some geek picture with blurred microsoft logo
URL: Any dating offer (good if you can link to female profile directly, if you have selected "Interested in Men" from another option)

I just want to say that you need to create 10 ads for one offer, like in one ad change picture, in another one, change headline, in next one change content, in next one, change age range or sex etc

From "Pricing", i recommend for for "CPM" model, and keep your bid $0.05+ then the show amount, test with 100k impressions and check your CTR. If you are getting ample clicks and satisfied with CPC it shows (based on your conversion) then simply go for same campaign in DIFFERENT country to scale it.

Also, i am sharing something that i DO. all practicle. I wont offer you some "Get Fbadsfree" course here. Its for my lovely warriors. Use it!

And do i qualify to share this information?

From one of my campaign, you decide:

Hi, I am facing a peculiar problem and would appreciate any advice you can offer. I clicked on 'create ad', was taken to the 1st page and filled all the relevant details. The preview was fine. But when I click on the 'continue' button, nothing happens. I tried with both IE and Chrome. I cleared the cache and cookies. Nada. Thanx in adv. Textech
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