Sandboxed?! Gooooogle?!!?!?!?

[Tiger_Claw]

Warriors,

So my site was on the first page of Google for its targetted keywords, around spot seven or so. I checked today and my site is no where to be found? I know they're still ranking it somewhere as I can find it with:

site:<sitename>

in the search box. How do I find out where it is standing and how I can possibly fix whatever they think I've done wrong? I'd also like to note that I never did any black hat with the site and only used an autoblogger to pull content on occasion (that isnt black hat is it?). I did recently start using a new theme and just finished setting that up, it took about two days. Could that be the reason?

My site is an Amazon product review site and I'm just trying to figure out how to get it back to the first page? Article marketing, etc?

[Gail_Curran]

Chances are you haven't done anything wrong. It's NORMAL for your site to jump around in the first few months. Keep building backlinks and your site will regain its ranking.

[theantihype]

this can be what's commonly called the "Google Dance".

Like mentioned above, keep on building links conservatively.

[blogsalepro24]

Keyword is Linkbuilding do it qualitative

[davidpolanco]

Also try working on your content, if you are using auto blogger to populate content dynamically...imagine everyone else that is doing it too. Work on the quality of your content and link building.

[Tiger_Claw]

Well the site has been around for about a year or so. I'll throw up some more original articles on it, and see about getting some quality backlinks as well. Wish someone actually sold a quality backlinking service. There is an idea..

[Gail_Curran]

The point is that you're not sandboxed. Anytime you make substantial changes to your site or get a bunch of new backlinks, your site is likely to move around until it settles in its new position. If you focus on getting quality backlinks, it will come back stronger than ever.

[HigherPrThanGod]

Originally Posted by Gail_Curran

Chances are you haven't done anything wrong. It's NORMAL for your site to jump around in the first few months. Keep building backlinks and your site will regain its ranking.

/agree.

[Kurt Abel]

Don't quit doing whatever you are doing and your site will almost always end up back where it was. I find that if you stop whatever link building you were doing when your site disappears, you will end up at a lower spot.

[WhosGotMoves]

I'm having the same problem.. Almost exactly.

I'll create 10-20 high PR backlinks and suddenly I get unlisted. This has happened twice already. Should I focus on creating low-PR and nofollow backlinks as well? I was sitting at spots 5-7 for about 5 keywords related to my Amazon product. It seems like everytime I put up Google Advertisements or create backlinks I get deindexed. I'm just trying to monetize it from the 150 Unique Visitors I'm getting per day. Is that too much to ask?

From an experienced point of view does it sound like the dance? Or am I possibly using bad tactics to attempt to move up the rankings. My site is about 4 months old. The backlinks I'm creating are non-profile but are PR2-6.

Do you think I should continue to add fresh content like articles and Youtube vids? That's my plan to try and resolve this issue. Any pointers would help..

[Abcent]

You haven't done anything wrong. It's ok if your site jumps around in the rankings. Keep building quality backlinks and your site will regain its ranking.

[Jason Perez O'Connor]

Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves

I'm having the same problem.. Almost exactly.

I'll create 10-20 high PR backlinks and suddenly I get unlisted. This has happened twice already. Should I focus on creating low-PR and nofollow backlinks as well? I was sitting at spots 5-7 for about 5 keywords related to my Amazon product. It seems like everytime I put up Google Advertisements or create backlinks I get deindexed. I'm just trying to monetize it from the 150 Unique Visitors I'm getting per day. Is that too much to ask?

From an experienced point of view does it sound like the dance? Or am I possibly using bad tactics to attempt to move up the rankings. My site is about 4 months old. The backlinks I'm creating are non-profile but are PR2-6.

Do you think I should continue to add fresh content like articles and Youtube vids? That's my plan to try and resolve this issue. Any pointers would help..

Are they really PR 2-6?

If their on a domain that is PR 2-6 then you aren't getting those PR's passed. You're actually just adding 10-20 PR 0 links. Nothing wrong with them, they just aren't very strong. Usually enough to rank for an Amazon product eventually though.

[Hogre]

Yep, it's the dance,alright.

I have an amazon review site and it disappeared from the radar for 20 days,just like yours did.

Two days before it got back where it once was, I removed a couple of affiliate links, just to see what will happen.Could have been a coincidence, but it went back to normal.

Everything was fine until today.Now it's gone...again.Round and round we go!!!

[WhosGotMoves]

Some are actual pagerank, while others are domain pagerank. I pinged about 15 backlinks over the past 2 days and today my site is not indexed.

The backlinks seem to be getting indexed from what Market Samurai is showing. Should I just wait a few days to see where I stand?

It seemed like removing affiliate links did the trick last time.

[dburk]

Hi Tiger_Claw and WhosGotMoves,

Sandbox? No, it's simply the boost from QDF wearing off!

YouTube - "Query deserves freshness." Fact or...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/bu...gewanted=print

[Jackson Soo]

Originally Posted by Tiger_Claw

Warriors,

So my site was on the first page of Google for its targetted keywords, around spot seven or so. I checked today and my site is no where to be found? I know they're still ranking it somewhere as I can find it with:

site:<sitename>

in the search box. How do I find out where it is standing and how I can possibly fix whatever they think I've done wrong? I'd also like to note that I never did any black hat with the site and only used an autoblogger to pull content on occasion (that isnt black hat is it?). I did recently start using a new theme and just finished setting that up, it took about two days. Could that be the reason?

My site is an Amazon product review site and I'm just trying to figure out how to get it back to the first page? Article marketing, etc?

If your site is an amazon product review site, don't use autoblog plugins or anything to pull content. Keep it freshly unique. No updates is better than autoblog updates in my opinion.

There are 101 reasons why your site has gone from your original rankings, and nobody can tell you exactly why it has happened. That's normal, though, the dance. I've close to 50 affiliate sites now, and most of them have disappeared from the rankings at least once. What i do is that i drip-feed 'maintenance backlinks' for them whenever they're gone, and then they'll always go back higher than before, albeit after several weeks, months even.

Conclusion? If you site has disappeared, don't fret it. Keep building backlinks to it, and as long as you don't do anything outrightly manipulative, it'll most likely go back to where it was. Meanwhile, if you're fretting over the dance of 1 site, it means you have only very little sites. Build a couple more in the meantime.

Have a good one.

[WhosGotMoves]

Originally Posted by jacksonsoo

If your site is an amazon product review site, don't use autoblog plugins or anything to pull content. Keep it freshly unique. No updates is better than autoblog updates in my opinion.

There are 101 reasons why your site has gone from your original rankings, and nobody can tell you exactly why it has happened. That's normal, though, the dance. I've close to 50 affiliate sites now, and most of them have disappeared from the rankings at least once. What i do is that i drip-feed 'maintenance backlinks' for them whenever they're gone, and then they'll always go back higher than before, albeit after several weeks, months even.

Conclusion? If you site has disappeared, don't fret it. Keep building backlinks to it, and as long as you don't do anything outrightly manipulative, it'll most likely go back to where it was. Meanwhile, if you're fretting over the dance of 1 site, it means you have only very little sites. Build a couple more in the meantime.

Have a good one.

Thanks for the valuable input guys,

You're 100% correct in that I have only 3 sites to my name, all of which are targeting small markets. 2 of these have been deindexed since the feb google update. The positive is that I never use auto-content, everything is hand written and reviewed by me for quality purposes before posting. The negative in this is that it would be difficult for me to scale this up to more than maybe 5-7 sites creating everything myself (I do my own web design, graphics, keyword research, article creation). The concern here is that I don't want to invest much more until I prove that I can be successful in IM.

What are your definitions of "drip feed" and "outright manipulative" here? I ask only because I create high pr backlinks about once or twice each week. It begs the question that I might be going about this incorrectly. How often would you recommend creating new content for Amazon Affiliate sites?

Sorry for coming back with so many questions, everyone has been more than helpful thus far.

[EvaDermot]

Don't worry much, keep doing white hat SEO and you would be out from it.

[sane1]

'I'll be back'