Submitting to ARticlebase and No-follow links..

[Buyseech]

Hi there,

I would like to hear your thoughts on submitting articles to ArticleBase...

I have posted a couple of unique articles on it and it got snatched a dozen times and posted elsewhere with my links in-tact...but they were all no-follow...

Yes, I know that no-follow links bring traffic as well, but thats very minute in comparison to do follow link that get you the SE rankings we are all after.

So do you think its wise to post (amongst others) to articlebase as well or not?

Sincerely, Buyseech

[iAmNameLess]

Absolutely post there. And just because you get nofollow links, doesn't mean its bad. You will notice the majority of the people in regards to nofollow links, have no idea about what results it brings. It still counts as a backlink, just doesn't pass page rank, which doesn't matter since after the last algo change domains don't pass as high of PR through their site now anyway.

[somenathsen1]

i think chose some dofollow Articles directories like goarticles.......

[Rexibit]

Originally Posted by Buyseech

Yes, I know that no-follow links bring traffic as well, but thats very minute in comparison to do follow link that get you the SE rankings we are all after.

So do you think its wise to post (amongst others) to articlebase as well or not?

There's a lot more to links than just dofollow and nofollow. But, let's nip this myth in the bud right now before tackling the bigger picture.

A link is a link. It doesn't matter if it's dofollow or nofollow, it still counts as part of your backlink profile and pushes authority to your site and site's page that the link was pointing to.

Now, what looks more natural to a search engine algorithm: a site with 1,000 dofollow backlinks, or a site with 1,000 backlinks that are a mix?

It'd personally prefer a mix to not leave as big a footprint that'd trigger a penalty or manual review, wouldn't you?

Now, if all you're doing is relying on articles for your backlinks, then you're also leaving a huge footprint. You need to be diversifying that backlink profile with many different types of links.

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

It still counts as a backlink, just doesn't pass page rank, which doesn't matter since after the last algo change domains don't pass as high of PR through their site now anyway.

1. I agree with you about people's ignorance.
2. I don't agree with your statement on PR or the Algo change.

PR is a measure of a site's worth. It changes every day, but is only shown a few times a year when a snapshot is pushed to the toolbar. Part of that worth is a website's authority and their backlink profile.

Since every link contributes to both of those, nofollow links still add to a site's PR. Google has said countless times that they wish people would stop using PR to judge a website's status since it doesn't take everything into consideration. That tells you right there that nofollow links still are effective.

Matt Cutt's and a lot of these "GURU"'s spread a lot of purposeful misinformation. They want people to leave a footprint behind. It's like a self-fulfilling prophesy, tell people something doesn't work and let them hang themselves when their currently working method gets them found out and penalized.

PR is one of those pieces of deliberate misinformation that works just enough to still be revered to distract people into chasing after it, but is useless for actual rankings.

[jonnyhardbaked]

No follow links still have benefits. So it's better to have than none.

[iAmNameLess]

Originally Posted by Rexibit

There's a lot more to links than just dofollow and nofollow. But, let's nip this myth in the bud right now before tackling the bigger picture.

A link is a link. It doesn't matter if it's dofollow or nofollow, it still counts as part of your backlink profile and pushes authority to your site and site's page that the link was pointing to.

Now, what looks more natural to a search engine algorithm: a site with 1,000 dofollow backlinks, or a site with 1,000 backlinks that are a mix?

It'd personally prefer a mix to not leave as big a footprint that'd trigger a penalty or manual review, wouldn't you?

Now, if all you're doing is relying on articles for your backlinks, then you're also leaving a huge footprint. You need to be diversifying that backlink profile with many different types of links.

1. I agree with you about people's ignorance.
2. I don't agree with your statement on PR or the Algo change.

PR is a measure of a site's worth. It changes every day, but is only shown a few times a year when a snapshot is pushed to the toolbar. Part of that worth is a website's authority and their backlink profile.

Since every link contributes to both of those, nofollow links still add to a site's PR. Google has said countless times that they wish people would stop using PR to judge a website's status since it doesn't take everything into consideration. That tells you right there that nofollow links still are effective.

Matt Cutt's and a lot of these "GURU"'s spread a lot of purposeful misinformation. They want people to leave a footprint behind. It's like a self-fulfilling prophesy, tell people something doesn't work and let them hang themselves when their currently working method gets them found out and penalized.

PR is one of those pieces of deliberate misinformation that works just enough to still be revered to distract people into chasing after it, but is useless for actual rankings.

Well, I think the case studies done, and the evidence is proof enough that PR trickling isn't as heavy as it used to be. PR used to have more power as well, but what matters now is the trust rank, not page rank. I still don't believe the PR gets passed through nofollow links, but I believe the trust rank does.

I think the last update, wasn't really about content.. I believe they changed the algorithm so the main domain wouldn't be passing down PR, causing a lot of worthless articles to rank without any kind of relevance. I believe the articles that continued to rank at EZA after this update, were ones that were actually marketed, and maybe had backlinks to and bookmarks.

[sgsmorgan]

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

Absolutely post there. And just because you get nofollow links, doesn't mean its bad. You will notice the majority of the people in regards to nofollow links, have no idea about what results it brings. It still counts as a backlink, just doesn't pass page rank, which doesn't matter since after the last algo change domains don't pass as high of PR through their site now anyway.

Spot on, at last someone who understands what is going on fully. Go ahead and still submit as they are a great directory to get material; published in as they respond so quickly.

[musicgirl]

this is a great topic...

[DireStraits]

Originally Posted by Rexibit

PR is a measure of a site's worth. It changes every day, but is only shown a few times a year when a snapshot is pushed to the toolbar. Part of that worth is a website's authority and their backlink profile.

Not strictly true, Rexibit. PR isn't, by any stretch of the imagination, a measure of a site's worth; it's a measure of a page's worth (in terms of the combined value of its incoming links, that is), because PageRank is calculated and assigned on a per-page—not a per-site—basis. And even then, there are many other factors to consider.

I'm not trying to be pedantic here, but it's important to make this distinction, because if the pages your backlinks are on do not themselves have a measurable/high PageRank, then you're not exactly getting "high-PR" backlinks. And this is the misconception responsible for so many people believing that a lot of high-homepage-PR sites (article directories in particular) are the best place from which to acquire backlinks.

To the OP: I would honestly say that if your only reason for submitting articles to any article directory is for backlinks (and especially if you're writing the articles fresh, specifically for that purpose), then you'd be better off looking at doing some blog commenting instead, which will typically allow you to gain much better backlinks from actual high-PR pages. There is really no need to expend the effort in writing articles purely for backlinks from article directories; there are much better uses of one's time.

[charu.seo]

continue posting there....

[BigSexy]

Originally Posted by jonnyhardbaked

No follow links still have benefits. So it's better to have than none.

This. Besides, it helps in making the link profile of your sites more natural in Google eyes.

[spectrecom]

Originally Posted by Buyseech

Hi there,

I would like to hear your thoughts on submitting articles to ArticleBase...

I have posted a couple of unique articles on it and it got snatched a dozen times and posted elsewhere with my links in-tact...but they were all no-follow...

Yes, I know that no-follow links bring traffic as well, but thats very minute in comparison to do follow link that get you the SE rankings we are all after.

So do you think its wise to post (amongst others) to articlebase as well or not?

Sincerely, Buyseech

I heard from a number of sources that it's worth having some NF links anyway because it makes your link profile appear more natural to Google and they'll reward your website with better rankings.